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@allquixotic ?
@Bob just seeing how those commands were implemented
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01:01
ah
01:27
if this guy doesn't get an answer, I would spend a 200 rep bounty to get him one ;)
(ALERT! The thing doesn't have TL;dr!)
01:42
@Braiam The op doesn't seem to understand that PCI passthru is a black art. He doesn't mention any form of sacrifice, human or otherwise.
@Braiam The most likely reason is his pentagram is not correctly formed
@Paul you well know that mine are the white arts so, I do noth understand anything from thy black realm...
02:01
@Braiam: you need VT-D (which means a high end-non unlocked chip if its intel). Apparently passthrough is broken on asus motherboards. some devices passthrough but not others
 
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Q: Custom close reason is processed as a comment

ScottWhen I click on “Close” (under a question), I get a “Why should this question be closed?” dialog box.  If, in that box, I click on “off-topic because…”, I get a “Closing > Off-Topic” box.  If I then click on “Other (add a comment explaining what is wrong)”, a “Comment” box appears.  The text that...

Bob
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05:05
cricket in the office: this can't possibly go wrong!
 
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Question: why does "hardware acceleration" screw things up so badly when enabled in Fire Fox? See lifehacker.com/…
Bob
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06:26
@Celeritas Because the source is complete bullshit.
This is the empirical evidence of one user saying acceleration causes issues for him.
@Bob I was having serious system insatiability issues and found FF's HA was causing them, even though FireFox may have been closed before the system became unstable.
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It is far from universal, and it is a lie to say it is.
If you google search "firefox hardware acceleration" most pages come up describe how to disable it
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In the end, the effectiveness of hardware acceleration depends on your system, especially the graphics drivers.
Even more so, the graphics drivers on Linux frequently suck.
But it is beneficial in most cases, assuming you have fairly recent drivers.
How can one program using hardware acceleration cause the entire system to freeze up at (seemingly) random points in time? i.e. after FireFox has been closed
Bob
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06:29
@Celeritas Because your graphics drivers fail.
Hardware acceleration means pass on rendering tasks to the GPU, rather than doing it on the CPU.
Assuming good graphics drivers, which most are now, it's perfectly fine.
So if 1 driver fails it causes system insatiability?
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In some cases, your graphics drivers are just crap.
This is the graphics driver's fault, not Firefox - one program's rendering cannot cause system instability, especially after the program is closed.
If the driver fucks up, then you're screwed.
@Celeritas Drivers are essentially kernel modules. They are the system.
interesting
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Graphics drivers have a... history... of being unstable.
also why keeping them updated helps
on the flip side, at least on my machine, if I don't fully nuke the old versions then weird bugs appear
I think Nvidia came out with a buggy update for the video card driver and that's when things went bad for me
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06:33
@Celeritas In other words - Firefox is probably using some function while rendering that triggers a bug in the graphics driver. It's unlikely that FF is using it incorrectly - and even if it is, a good system should not become unstable due to some program making incorrect system calls. Or at least it should be reasonably well protected from it.
It's treaky when one thing fails as a result of another things fault
*treaky tricky
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@Celeritas Could be that FF was updated to use some function it didn't before.
Again, a good system will at least clean up after a program is closed.
It's stupid to trust all programs to not have bugs - and even stupider to let them bring down the system.
For example, many programmers forget to release open handles. The OS automatically releases them when the program is closed.
In other words - even if FF used something incorrectly, f the problem persists after closing it then there is at least a system/driver bug as well.
And then @allquixotic comes to refute everything I just said :P
I may have exaggerated a bit, I think Firefox was normally open (but minimized and not in use) when the computer froze or got all choppy
07:23
"The cost of these machines may be less than the cost of having your existing machine repaired."

Hmmm. Why keep repair center then? Oh yeah, warranty repairs funded by company.
07:58
(funny thing. I hhad the same glasses. I however do not use a mac, nor am I a JRT)
Bob
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08:11
@JourneymanGeek Visionnaire arrived! :D
It's beautiful.
@Bob: ooh, another thing to look forward to in the post then ;)
Bob
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08:31
whaaaaaaaa???
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A: Can Boolean Arrays Be Initialized in a For Loop?

Ayushya DevmurariThe reason why the code wasn't running is because when you mentioned that Boolean[] array = new Boolean[5]; for(Boolean value : array) { value = false; } You are actually creating a new reference type called "Array of Boolean" and it contains only references to the five objects of Boolean...

That explanation makes zero sense. In fact, my head hurts now.
when everything fails, bring out the nationality card.
@Sathya Indian not helping an indian...What my brother...sorry for speaking hardly in the previous comment..but I dealt my question very politely.. — Dani 33 mins ago
08:59
I know, right?
 
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lol, noob here - what exactly does "bind bi*" do in terminal and how do I unbind it? I was about to do a "find" but missed a couple of keys :P
in theory nothing >_>
that looks like a system call
@JourneymanGeek aight thx
that was fun
answered a question entirely off google searches
@JourneymanGeek so you're not sure? Sure I found some results on google but if that command altered something I'd like to know
naw
I looked at the manpage
I was meaning a question on the main site
10:38
ok thx
oh wait, no
it apparently disabled my b key ;p
LOL
mine too :D
only seems to be for that session tho
@JourneymanGeek A new session solves it
now you have gotten me curious
yup
here we are
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Q: In bash, how do I bind a function key to a command?

SiegeXExample: I want to bind the F12 key to the command echo "foobar" such that every time I hit F12 the message "foobar" will be printed to screen. Ideally it could be any arbitrary shell command, not just builtins. How does one go about this?

you bound b, and possibly the other charecters to nothing at all.
which, naturally would be a problem
10:44
I didn't experience any issues with i and * at that session, but the a-z/i would probably be re-bound to its natural state automatically right?
I think it just read the first key
yeah
(moral of the story, never trust you got the right man page, and try turning it off and on again ;p)
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11:16
@ThatBrazilianGuy olld
Why did you remove it :O
There might be some people here who haven't seen it yet !
I was being an arse :P
lol
LOOK WHAT YOU DID!
Bob
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12:07
@ThatBrazilianGuy That would require a mic and speaker... I don't know of many secure servers that would have those :P
lol
@Bob: thats what the ninjas are for.
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@JourneymanGeek Alternative: vary fan speed?
Oooh, what about varing power draw intentionally? :P
lol
making noise is easy
how would you pick it up?
;p
(very low tech solution? White noise generators)
or trained dogs
hm
I wonder if the ralink dongle I bought does AP mode
if it does, I may need another one
Aw. Look at that.
12:18
aww
(time flies. The hat photo is from last year)
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@slhck That penguin is awesome.
Because he's a penguin :P
lol
and its a rather dashing hat.
haha
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12:22
Office365 is fucking hopeless.
My uni mail recently switched over to them (from outlook.com or something), and Thunderbird has been failing to authenticate every few hours.
Oh, the password is correct - it works most of the time.
wtf.
whoot
this has AP mode
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O.O
@JourneymanGeek Didn't something similar happen in Singapore recently?
yeah
though in shanghai its local pollution
this is interesting
my el-cheapo wilan card can act as both an AP and a client at the same time
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My el cheapo wifi card can will crash Win8.1 :P
lol
@Bob: I got the cheapest DX one
;p
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12:30
@JourneymanGeek $10 one, though it's likely a genuine HP (internal card, BIOS whitelist)
@Bob: this is USB
(picked it up to troubleshoot the ipv6 wierdness)
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@slhck Uhm... not sure why I didn't pay attention to it before but 68k rep?!
I am in awe.
I don't know how this happened, actually.
I passed Ignacio, even.
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lol
12:35
I'm hoping to catch up with ignacio at some point ;p
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I actually noticed the 97k SE-wide rep first. Which is also pretty amazing.
Heh.
I need to get to 10k on Stack Overflow at some point… it's not even that hard I presume.
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I need to catch up :P
Haven't really answered much lately, though.
I'd like to get to 3k on SF
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12:37
You guys answer like five questions a day -_-
Not really, I sometimes get around ~50-60 rep per day just from old answers.
But I was a little bored last month, that's true.
@Bob: I think I average about 2
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That rep graph. It's like a constant stream.
Mine is rather pitiful by comparison...
12:39
>_>
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Looks empty, doesn't it? :P
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(also, two fun days of massive negative rep o.O)
just noticed he's posted about 500 less answers than I have XD
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> -75 03:00 reversal Serial upvoting reversed
lol
someone from this chat, I forgot who
and the earlier negative rep was responded to with this:
> +38 03:00 reversal Serial downvoting reversed
12:41
haha
@Bob: also, you've been here for a shorter period than either @slhck or me
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@JourneymanGeek Still going on two years, and a fraction of the rep :P
@JourneymanGeek was there long before me I think.
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My pattern is kinda the reverse of you two: lots at the beginning, then tapered off as I lost interest in main site questions.
@Bob: few things I noticed
early users have a crapton of rep (see John T)
12:43
Yeah, no idea how that happened
I rarely see answers of his
obviously a lot of rep in the early days
then there's this ;p
Probably polling questions we later deleted :P
possibly!
(no, I have NO idea what happened mid 2011 ;p)
is "Video Audio Volume Booster" a known spam?
@Braiam: no, but the answer you were pointing out on AU looks like it.
12:55
@JourneymanGeek I shoot flag first, ask questions latter ;)
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Really, @slhck, that's just an easy answer :P
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A: Can't convert to DDS file because width and height are not multiples of four

slhck image width and height must be multiple of four 2000 / 4 = 500 1330 / 4 = 332.5 So, your height is not in multiples of four. You need 1332 or 1328 as height in order to be able to convert it.

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os there any way to run wine in a virtual box>? — Utkarsh Nov 30 at 16:22
why that smell like a trolling question...
13:54
o0
@Gowtham: thats an odd looking cooler
OH
is that the hybrid air/water block ROG card?
hm
thats a 8 year old photo ;p
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o.O
@JourneymanGeek Who's holding you there?
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14:20
Oh, the elder brother.
(fun fact. For obvious reasons, I'm never in the same photos as my canine alter-ego)
14:32
@Bob I know right? :D I just had to.
What else do you want? My social security number, maybe?
Can someone explain the pattern of the CPU graphs to me?
I have the same pattern on 2 Hyper-V hosts. It just keeps repeating over and over
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O.O
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Q: Write code to make CPU usage display a sine wave

chagel Write code in your favorite language and let Windows Task Manager represent a sine wave in CPU Usage History. This is a technical interview quiz from Microsoft China. I think it's a good question. Especially it's worth knowing how candidate understand and figure out the solution. Edit: ...

lol
Really weird
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14:45
@OliverSalzburg Try the performance monitor.
You should be able to at least figure out what's doing that? If you're lucky.
@Bob I'm there rightnow
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Then again, it looks a little too consistent...
@OliverSalzburg Make sure you set a really fast sample rate.
If only it wasn't some stupid translated German version >:(
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:S
14:47
How do you change the sample rate?
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@OliverSalzburg Sample interval*
High sample rate => low sample interval
Oh wait, I was in resource monitor
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they use sample interval in the perfmon, I think
I was just looking at some perfmon logs today - the sample interval was so high that it had massive jumps
you would probably miss the pattern entirely
It seems like the smallest interval is 1s
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@OliverSalzburg hanselman.com/blog/…
could be related
14:52
perfmon output is different
That's with 1 graph per CPU
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o.O
I don't get it
The little red humps below the blue spikes are the "total cpu" graph
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@OliverSalzburg Maybe it's time to ask on SU/SF?
So that would suggest that there is only load on 1 CPU. But why is Task Manager and Resource Monitor reporting the same load on most CPUs Oo
@Bob Possibly, yes
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@OliverSalzburg What's running on these servers?
Or is it a clean installation?
14:56
@Bob Hyper-V with a couple VMs in it. No other roles
The servers were installed over a year ago. They've always had this pattern
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@OliverSalzburg Anything running in the VMs?
Ah.
@Bob Lots of stuff
But really nothing that should cause high load at this time. And not with such a regular pattern anyway
I'm not even getting paid to look into this. It just weirds me out :P
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@OliverSalzburg Probably ask on SF or something :P
I'd love to know why.
Too bad you can't really just start killing VMs until it stops :P
I'll gather more intel and write up something proper
@Bob Well... there could be a strange power outage tonight ;P
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@OliverSalzburg ಠ⌣ಠ
15:12
@Bob nah, I completely agree -- when firefox.exe ends (or if it doesn't end even after calling TerminateProcess() on its handle), if the resources it allocated in terms of FDs, sockets, memory, GPU resources, etc. don't all immediately get released, then the kernel (or by extension, some driver) is at fault, not firefox.
the user/kernel interface is quite explicit on the fact that the kernel is required to always have a consistent state, no matter how evil userspace tries to be
of course there are hundreds of examples where the kernel does something inconsistent, but I'd argue that 80% of those issues are not caused by Microsoft code, but by third-party drivers
Must be an issue with Task Manager
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15:48
@allquixotic yea, I figured
i.e. fuck Abbott
apparently they might try something with VDSL
seriously, fuck them. and it's looking like it'll cost mote
why can't we just have freaking FTTP
and they are now saying 4-6Mbps upload is enough
fuck off
@OliverSalzburg still looks weird
@allquixotic Yea, that would be a rather large security issue, wouldn't it?
This is the kind of thing privilege escalation attacks exploit.
Not to mention just basic DoS attacks. Which this is, really, if it forces a system restart to fix just because it called some OpenGL function or something.
16:11
@Bob made much worse by the existence of WebGL :P
click here! (or an advertisement embedded in a website that's allowed to use arbitrary HTML) --> WebGL --> OpenGL --> kernel bug --> boom
worse than the SVG crash because it brings down the system
we're less worried about that type of thing historically for stuff like JavaScript because you're highly unlikely to be able to write javascript doing maths or something that causes a CPU fault or a PCI-E bus error or something like that
but when you have an API that's very close to the operating system that's chock full of bugs that's being exposed almost directly into a highly untrusted environment, bad things happen
i hate to admit it but it's even worse on Linux when you're running the open source graphics stack, because even on Debian Stable or RHEL, that thing is considerably less reliable and considerably more buggy than even AMD's Catalyst, which says a lot
it's almost trivial to find a GL call interleaving that will result in a system hang
@slhck I have seen worse.
And WhyTF is cnet offering me content in Spanish? (¡No hablo español, por supuesto!)
Also, I think the image is wrong, doesn't exclamation and quotation marks in Spanish have an inverted signal at the beginning of the phrase?
@ThatBrazilianGuy because your IP address is from South America, obviously ;-)
!!tell @cnet orlmente
@ThatBrazilianGuy Don't be annoying, drop the @, nobody likes a double-ping.
@ThatBrazilianGuy ¡Por supuesto sí!
16:19
Inverted question (¿) and exclamation marks (¡) are punctuation marks used to begin interrogative and exclamatory sentences (or clauses), respectively, in written Spanish and sometimes also in languages which have cultural ties with Spanish, such as in older standards of Galician (now it is optional and not recommended) or Catalan. They can also be combined in several ways to express the combination of a question and surprise or disbelief. The initial marks are normally mirrored at the end of the sentence or clause by the common marks (?, !) used in most other languages. Unlike the endi...
Lo sé, estubiera siendo "ironico".
@ThatBrazilianGuy ¡Y no lo te olvides!
No hablo español, pero hablo un portuñol mucho bueno, ay si!
!! s/stub/stuv/
@allquixotic Lo sé, estuviera siendo "ironico". (source)
16:21
¡por favor!
wait, that's the subjunctive tense :D
!! s/estuviera/estaba/
@allquixotic @allquixotic Lo sé, estaba siendo "ironico". (source) (source)
@ThatBrazilianGuy ¿portuñol? ¡Aa! Refieres a portugués y español mezclados jaja
Por la presente, ¡declaro hoy el Día Español en Cuarto de Acceso!
Ah, stop it or I'll get Daniel and Oliver and we'll talk German :P
16:24
lol
The compound word ( () is an example of the virtually unlimited compounding of nouns that is possible in many Germanic languages. According to the 1996 Guinness Book of World Records, it is the longest word published in the German language, having 79 letters. It was allegedly a suborganization of the Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaft in pre-war Vienna, Austria, a shipping company for transporting passengers and cargo on the Danube. The DDSG still exists today in the form of the now private companies DDSG-Blue Danube Schiffahrt GmbH (passenger transport) and the DDSG-Cargo GmbH. However, th...
@slhck Discúlpanos pero, hoy es el día de hispanohablantes en el cuarto de Aceso de Ruta
Aceso de Ruta, eh?
llueve mucho por aquí en este momento
es posible que vaya a perder mi conexión de Internet
> hoy es el día de hispanohablantes Idiomas de América Latina en el cuarto de Aceso de Ruta.
16:26
!! NO
@ThatBrazilianGuy ¡qué general! eso incluye el portugués, a que digo "no".
@allquixotic Non imos deixar Papiamento e Galego para atrás!
!!tell 12513222 orlmente
16:28
Mira, las imágenes mismo están en español!
@ThatBrazilianGuy o_O ¿dijiste "No debemos dejar ... eses idiomas para atrás" ?
he visto "Galego" en el pasado, pero no "Papaimento"
Твоя мать пахнет бузины и ваш отец был хомяк
אויב מיר האָבן צו פאַקינג טאָן דעם שפּיל אויף
@JourneymanGeek that's cheating -- you don't know Russian!! do you...?!
you should speak.. I dunno... Singaporean! or dog!
or Singaporean dog!
16:33
@allquixotic אַלע איז שיין אין מלחמה!
Ես շատ սիրում է հայկական սցենարի, ինչպես նաեւ
there we go, much better :D
@Gowtham ummm... Arabic?
lol
naw, it looks like hebrew
but not quite
@allquixotic Si, grazas ás marabillas fantásticas e sorprendentes de tradución automática! Galego é unha expresión que mestura portugués, español e que-terlle
Galician ( or ; ) is a language of the Western Ibero-Romance branch. It is spoken by some 3 million people, mainly in Galicia, an autonomous community located in northwestern Spain, where it is official along with Spanish. The language is also spoken in some border zones of the neighbouring Spanish regions of Asturias and Castile and León, as well as by Galician migrant communities in the rest of Spain, in Latin America, the United States, Switzerland and elsewhere in Europe. Galician is part of the same family of languages as the Portuguese language, and both share a common origin. ...
@allquixotic Yiddish
16:34
I wish language learning was as easy in real life as it is in Everquest 1
@allquixotic: I'm fluent in english, tamil, westie and mini-schnauzer
someone can spam you with a language they know that you don't and you can learn it in about 15 minutes
@allquixotic I wonder if cats meow in the same idiom.
I'm pretty good at detecting languages though
(westie is lower, schnauzers squeak)
16:35
@ThatBrazilianGuy my cat speaks a completely different language of meowese than any other cat :D
she goes "mah!" instead of "meow"
I once had a 2min conversation with a quite happy cat. To this day, I have no idea what we talked about.
@allquixotic: indian cows sound different from western cows ;p
Whenever someone in the house talked over a phone, my cat used to assume we were talking to it and it would sit in front of the person and meow along xD
16:36
I think my cat usually talks about "give me catnip/food/treats or I'm going to bite you"
My cat used to bite first and moew later
she's not much of an attack cat though, in her advancing age
as a kitten she was like any other kitten -- reminds me of that youtube video of Sparta the cat
"hey little kitty what's with all the fight? pretty little kitty gotta bite, bite bite"
my cat kneads my dirty clothes on the floor :P
she would be useful in making bread to knead the dough
16 mins ago, by slhck
Ah, stop it or I'll get Daniel and Oliver and we'll talk German :P
No, please! German is INSANE minfduck!
Also, German Language Compared to other Languages:
WTF GERMANY!
Bob
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what the duck is going on here
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yes Swype auto censors
I think The Litter Box has spilled over into Root Access
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16:41
cbf fixing it
!!learn bababababat '<>https://i.sstatic.net/MsJZk.gif'
@allquixotic Command bababababat learned
something smaller perhaps ?
like madcat or something
@allquixotic What, can't we declare an Spanish Day and talk about cats in several different languages and you start complaining?
@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm not complaining, I think it's awesome
16:51
@allquixotic Sometimes I wonder how it would be if we regulars went to a bar and have some drinks and chat
Of course, we'd have to pick a bar that allows dogs.
And cats.
And foxes.
Damn, forget the bar, let's go to the zoo.

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