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Q: See recently awarded gold badges on main's sidebar

nixdaCan we use the free space below the new "Hot Network Questions" section (which is great!) to be used for recently awarded gold badges? No bronze or silver badges like it was done in the past. Just gold badges like: Great answer Great question Famous question In the past it was a pain to sca...

Bob
Bob
12:36
@JourneymanGeek ya
but what the bloody hell do we need dual quad cores for??
no fucking wonder he pushed VMs at us
it's... pretty much a file server. might run SQL Server with ten users later, but that's not exactly gonna stress anything
there's future-proofingm and then there's blatant overkill
this is the latter
@MichaelKjörling 17 GB free is more often an indicator of something wrong, to me
though I guess that does depend what you're doing
(got a server sitting idle with 47 GB free :P but that's fully idle - hey, @allquixotic, you gonna test the simulator at all?)
@JourneymanGeek hm. I wonder if it can choose a connection based on latency and the traffic
e.g. SSH would prefer lower latency, while HTTP would be fine on higher latency
@Bob :O
cool :P
@Bob Like I said, I rebooted the system last night, so the cache hasn't really had time to get populated much. And the reason why I went with such a large amount of RAM when building the PC is that I fire up a couple of VMs now and then, which like to have some real RAM each. Then there's the issue of ZFS's caching which AFAIU doesn't show up as "cache" or "buffers" in free's output. Lots of free RAM just means the system could easily do more.
Bob
Bob
@MichaelKjörling Heh, I'd have ~30 GB of cache fully populated within 5 hours
really depends what you're doing though
@Bob At night, I usually sleep.
Bob
Bob
@MichaelKjörling everyone knows my stance on sleeping :P
(I guess it's morning there? It's actually night here now, so my brain kinda processed 'last night' as 24 hours ago.)
12:48
Anyway, I went ahead and ordered a single 180 GB Intel 530. With my current utilization it'll sit at about 6% of capacity used, which will give the garbage collector and wear leveling algorithms a ton of space to work with.
It's early afternoon here. 13:48 ATM.
@Boris_yo if you need to ask,,,,
Bob
Bob
oh yea, I've always wondered - is a 24hr clock the norm in every other country?
it certainly seems that way
A conservative 3,000 write cycles over 180 GB gives me >500 TB written, even at a rate of 20 GB written per day that's four years service life.
@Bob Quoting @JourneymanGeek - if you need to ask... ;)
@Bob: not really
Bob
Bob
annnnd there we go:
> The 24-hour clock enjoys broad everyday usage in most countries outside North America, Australia, India and the Philippines, at least when time is written or displayed. In some regions, for example most German, French and Romanian speakers, use the 24-hour clock today even when speaking casually, while in other countries the 12-hour clock is used more often in spoken form.
@MichaelKjörling I'll say it again - it's often (usually?) the controller that fails, not the NAND
or at least it was a couple years ago
12:53
@Bob And you can't really do a lot about that except picking hardware which historically has proven to be relatively reliable. Intel SSDs do fall into that segment.
Bob
Bob
Yep.
@MichaelKjörling But it also means that worrying about and/or calculating for NAND failure is a bit of a trap.
That's why I ended up not getting that separate "swap" SSD I considered at first. Really, though, if the controller fails then as you say write cycles are irrelevant, and if it doesn't, this puts me at such high a number as to make it effectively a non-issue assuming wear leveling works at all on that drive (and I don't see why it wouldn't).
We all know that the best time to upgrade the computer is perpetually about half a year from now, but I don't think my system spinning-rust drive will survive half a year so I kind of need to do something about it pretty soon. And I certainly can put swap on a zvol on the ZFS pool; I tried it and the kernel does not complain, although it might cause some slight issues with the boot service startup order (that I want to fix anyway, for other reasons).
@MichaelKjörling 540TB
@Boris_yo Yes? 540 TB is ">500 TB", and the four years wasn't accurate to eight decimal places anyway...
13:05
@Bob I see a pattern of negative reviews and price reflects it. I usually avoid such products.
@MichaelKjörling Wait, why? Did you round down?
@Boris_yo I wanted a ballpark figure, and I doubt the 3,000 write cycles to failure is completely exact either. Now I'm getting confused, though.
The correct figure is more along the lines of 74 years, it seems. To have written 540 TB at a rate of 20 GB/day takes 27000 days which is right around 74 years. Even more reason not to worry about NAND failure. And I doubt I'll be writing anywhere near as much as 20 GB/day.
@MichaelKjörling Why not worry? SSD is something you will pass to your children as inheritance.
@Boris_yo So will I the LED lamp on the bedside table.
@MichaelKjörling Antique SSDs may have their value several hundred years later in museums.
13:23
@Bob "create two proxies, assign to each its own interface, and run two apps simultaneously that use a different interface "
so, I guess that might work
14:03
@Boris_yo no more than an ancient wooden spoon would have value today ;p an interesting collector's piece to describe what technology existed in years past... but not useful :P
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic how ancient are we talking? they do tend ot be quite valuable :P
aww, Steam sale is over :P
@Bob a thing called motivation. maybe. maybe not. feel free to nuke the VM, hehe
!!define motivation
@allquixotic motivation Willingness of action especially in behavior
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I just realised I have nothing to run on it right now
:S
gonna need to find something
@Bob cancel your, like, 100 VPSes and put everything on that box
Bob
Bob
14:06
@allquixotic only one of those VPSes is actively running anything
also, I get better ping to most of them
-_-
that's crazy! you bought it without having any need for it at all?
Bob
Bob
(two other VPSes are test systems I don't use now that hte semester is over)
@allquixotic nah, had a couple planned uses
no website? no code hosting? no music/file backup?
i can understand not using it for gaming because of the ping
Bob
Bob
just.. abandoned half those plans
@allquixotic backup? hah!
sure, I'll just upload 200 GB of music, it'll only take three decades
@Bob well it's cheaper for backup storage than ExpensiveBox
assuming you do other stuff with it too
Bob
Bob
14:07
the only viable backup for me is a portable HDD
oh. right. slow upstream
i forgot what it's like to have slow upstream :D
Bob
Bob
internet backups are completely out of the question
@allquixotic and the fuckhead of a PM we now have thinks 4-6MB will be enough for the next decade
we were this close to FTTP
fuck.
@Bob that's politics-speak for "I don't want to spend the money to go fiber"
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic except it now looks like it will cost more
or "I am controlled by the telecoms and they don't want to spend the money to go fiber"
Bob
Bob
14:09
@allquixotic it was a federal gov plan
Telstra owned the copper, but they effectively sold it (or something)
reopen voters. gooby plz.
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Q: When I disable my microphone device, I can no longer hear Skype

savWhen I disable the microphone device, I can no longer hear a conversation in Skype. I also can't use my microphone. I have a microphone and speaker device set in skype. Also, sounds on my PC (eg: YouTube videos) are audible to people in my Skype call When I try to record sounds, instead ...

Bob
Bob
all funded by taxpayers and people using the new service
so even that doesn't come into it
@allquixotic boom.
O.O
@Bob awesome. although i thought "reversible" would mean that a device could switch from being a host to client and back (or both at once O_O)
another connector though :/ that means all my existing cables are obsolete :D
Bob
Bob
14:25
@allquixotic ya :(
and this will probably be rather weak, too
seen more than enough snapped lightning connectors
@Bob the spec better be damn strict about shielding
i hate unshielded cables that get interfered with or interfere with other things
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic oh god
@allquixotic oh yea, remember the USB 3.0 cables interfering with WiFi? :P
A value of 09 or 010 could cause problems because of octal notation. See my answer for regex that disallows octal notation. — dbenham 1 hour ago
O.O
TIL the Windows command processor apparently accepts octal input
also hex! wtf
lolwow
Bob
Bob
for /l %a in (1,1,0xb) do echo %a
don't sputter that devilspeak in here, young man
now go wash your keyboard out with soap
14:30
why people like to put new important information in comments!
Bob
Bob
@Braiam ?
@Braiam where would you prefer they put it?
@allquixotic dunnow, maybe editing the question?? ¬_¬
Bob
Bob
context failed.
14:56
@allquixotic naw it just means you need one more kind of cable ;p
15:27
@allquixotic Haven't people sued Apple for their lousy auto-correct feature for causing social and relationship damage?
@Boris_yo idk
@allquixotic fa
15:54
@Gowtham ^^^
bleh, i have to reset my gravatar password
@Gowtham What happened?
maybe he posted it in source control on github lol
@allquixotic that's my nightmare
a lot of my stuff are in private git in bitbucket.
16:10
@jokerdino I'm a paranoid developer (background in security testing) so I rarely run into issues like that
usually try to engineer stuff that's secure by design, although I could still accidentally commit a config file with a password
How do I record audio in gnome / fedora 19
!!tell 12470552 hv
@Boris_yo there changed
16:12
How is that an impossible question?
not impossible -- just too broad -- there are dozens of ways
did you try the sound recorder app?
OK, to be fair, it may not be installed
as root: yum install gnome-media-apps
then try again
a bit surprised that it isn't installed by default though!
perhaps that's why it's not blindingly obvious to you how to do it ;p
if all else fails, gst-launch-1.0 pulsesrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! filesink location=/home/youruser/Documents/whatever.ogg
I wanted to record a webinar, but it started 15min ago
A friend is recording the audio
I will have to recode it later +_+
16:27
@Gowtham Makes me wish I could code ._____.
@ThatBrazilianGuy I am going to try this ;p projectanarchy.challengepost.com
> With features like an extensible C++ architecture, a flexible asset management system, advanced Lua debugging, rapid prototyping with the vSceneViewer functionality, full integration with fmod® and Autodesk® Scaleform®, and customizable game samples and tutorials, Project Anarchy offers developers the ability to quickly iterate on their ideas and create incredible gaming experiences
do you know C++? Lua? 3d modeling? ;p
you'll be learning a lot, if not :P (and by "a lot" I mean several years' worth of knowledge :D)
nope xD I am going to try and learn as much as possible
several years :O
probably worth trying just to see what you can learn
16:33
I am doing this for fun :P
@Gowtham Ahahah too small for your head! You look like... Anybody is familiar with Morocco Mole? The friend of Secret Squirell? That's what I wanted to say.
@allquixotic i do know C++ :P
@ChatBotJohnCavil Are you going to put Santa hat too?
he already has a hat!
overloaded hats don't work
Hat is a sealed class (C# terminology)
@allquixotic He does but it is detective's hat. What I asked about is Santa's hat.
16:35
you can't wear a hat on a hat!
Unless you play tf2
@allquixotic But you can photoshop it.
i might get a pic of Dean Stockwell portraying Cavil without a hat and drop a santa hat on, if i remember, tonight
it wouldn't take very long
now that i know how to do it with gimp
17:05
Interesting question...
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Q: Why does CSS work with fake tags?

Jordan ChillMcgee LudgateIn my class, I was playing around and found out that CSS works with made-up tags. Example: <style> imsocool { color:blue; } </style> <body> <imsocool>HELLO</imsocool> </body> When my professor first saw me using this, he was a bit surprised that made-up tags worked and recommended I simply c...

@CanadianLuke But how does machine understand made-up tags?
It's based on the browser, and as the answer said below, it's because the browser wants to help out the user and be futureproofed. They just won't change the meaning of the tag, until it sees CSS or Javascript or something else
Ash
Ash
17:32
@allquixotic
17:43
@CanadianLuke because forward compatibility...
18:08
@Braiam Exactly
18:47
19:00
What about the Darwin's rule of thumb?
@Boris_yo they have rossy cheeks right?
@Ash nice
19:20
@Braiam What is rossy? I don't see chicks here.
rose-y cheeks.
@jokerdino Pinky cheeks?
pink-y
Lawyer loses domain grab: A nimble lawyer who grabbed the domain facebook.co.il has been forced to forgo it for free, after an arbitrator ruled that no, Facebook didn't have to pay him $10,000 for it. Within 30 days, the site will automatically redirect to the popular social networking site founded by Mark Zuckerberg, under the Israeli Internet Association ruling. The lawyer, Gal Erel, may appeal.
lol doesn't lawyer know about trademark domain name infringement?
Ex-domain name snatcher?
19:42
@CanadianLuke I think it's lawyer from Israel? co.il is Israeli domains extension.
@Boris_yo I realize that, but I remember back in the day that people would snatch up domain names just to resell them for extreme amounts of money
@CanadianLuke Unless those were not branded or trademarked domains...
@CanadianLuke People you are talking for are probably domain investors.
!!help palmface
@Braiam Command palmface does not exist.
@Braiam You want help with palmface?
19:53
David Fullerton on December 04, 2013

The top bar of a Stack Exchange site has always been a bit of an odd place. It somehow combines user info, navigation, search, and a one-size-fits-all popup that includes hot network questions, a list of 100+ Stack Exchange sites, personal inbox messages, and other system notifications (lovingly referred to as The StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™).

It was, in retrospect, overdue for a face-lift which is why we’re excited to roll out a new top bar this week.

So, in the redesigned top bar, we wanted to make sure that it would look the same across all sites, and make it obvious that you’ …

@Boris_yo I wouldn't call them investors anymore... Just DBs
@CanadianLuke DBs?
!!urban DB
@Boris_yo db shortened form of douche-bag
lol
@ChatBotJohnCavil But it also can abbreviate database, ain't it?
20:09
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Q: Windows 7/8 Access Point No Authentication/Encryption?

deed02392I want to use my laptop as an access point, but the default provided tool: netsh wlan hostednetwork only offers acting as an access point with WPA2. I want to create either no authentication or WEP (this is all my UART-WIFI chip supports): I have seen two 3rd party utilities in the wild for...

seriously, what's with these comments/answers?
20:37
@deed02392 Although I didn't make the comments, I can guess that the issue is that you are assuming since programs can do it, it's built into Windows. Whether that's true or not, I don't know and personally, don't care. I think it's a valid question myself, but I don't have anything constructive to say, so I won't be making any comments or providing an answer (as I don't know)
@Boris_yo I'm impressed it understood what I meant
oh lawdy, the SE failbar is polluting SU.com \o/
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21:07
was a rhetorical question @CanadianLuke
@deed02392 Rhetorical doesn't translate well to chat rooms
@CanadianLuke Well those domain selling douche-bags make a living from what they do and their activity of claiming potential domains allows them to throw domains for premium prices to average joes. Like vampires they suck from pool of available domains making people's life harder.
At least it's able to be overturned... With lots of fighting, and depending who the registrar is
21:36
fbcdn -_-
Image not found
@allquixotic Here ^
21:52
@Boris_yo aha
22:49
I see we got the new topbar today
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I like it!
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