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22:02
Does anyone know about how ADSL2 is set up?
on the user end or the big picture?
I'm getting a decent download speed (10+ Mbps) but a really crap (in my opinion) upload speed (0.3 Mbps).
@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure.
oh, that might be the ISP really going asymettric
I've asked my ISP what's going on and have just got the following reply:
most ADSL connections have fast download and shit upload
22:03
> As it stands your line is capped at 440Kbps upload speed, this is a standard amount on an ADSL2 connection.

> We can uncap this for you and this would allow your upstream to raise above the standard amount.

> Before we do this however we need to ensure that you understand that the speed has to come from somewhere, and the increase in upload is taken from your current download speed. This is usually a marginal amount from your download, around 500Kbps - 1Mbps, that would be placed straight over to the upload.
the first line sounds about right
the second line makes no sense
So. A) Is it standard? and B) will it really only have a marginal affect on my download speed?
A) sounds about right. B)Probably, though it sounds like BS
So, basically he's trying to fob me off?
I really wish I knew more about this stuff.
Given I create web based applications for a living I really ought to.
not everyone knows everything
heya @BenRichards
22:08
@allquixotic I don't think I saw your friend request! I've had steam on for a while
Or either that or I already accepted it?
Hi @JourneymanGeek
:P
@JourneymanGeek Oh I don't want (or expect to know everything), but I would like to know enough to be able to hold an intelligent conversation about it and know when I was being bullshitted.
@JourneymanGeek Nope! Everyone seems to think this but it's a completely different field!
Considering the speed I guess you are on ADSL 2+, and removing speed from your download to speed up upload makes no sense
on the other hand, your CS representitive is probably just parroting what he was told
22:17
@BenRichards I sent it, definitely
@JourneymanGeek Yep definitely on ADSL2+ - or at least that's what I've been told.
Actually the figures I'm seeing are starting to make sense.
If ADSL2+ can deliver up to 24Mbps download and 1 Mbps upload then 11 & .3 are in about the right ratio
Well I've called them out and asked them straight out if they're telling me the truth.
22:38
@ChrisF That is a bizarre thing to say. Perhaps they mean it is their own standard, as it isn't an ADSL standard. "Our standard is to cap upload speeds, but we can release that cap but we will then cap your download instead"
@Paul That hadn't crossed my mind, but is a possibility. However, .37 (the actual upload figure) is about 1/24th of 11 (the download figure) which matches the ratio in the document JourneymanGeek linked to, so I'm beginning to think I'm not going to get any better upload speeds until I can move to fibre optic.
@rlemon He debates laws in country he does not live in?
@ChrisF Sure - you get what you get with ADSL2+, depends on the line quality and distance. The ratios are right, I just don't follow what they are saying about the cap - whether this means they are actually capping the connection, or the guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Or he is referring to Annex-M maybe (but that need hardware support).
Well I'll see when they answer my latest reply.
23:10
@Boris_yo he debates I do not know what a law is.
does anyone? ;p
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 hours ago, by connor.js
All Acts of Parliament are ‘statutes’ known variously as legislation, regulations or rules. They are not laws.
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 hours ago, by connor.js
@rlemon Law is quite simple, if you break someones "rights" you've broke the law
doesn't matter that we were linking him to countless ontario government pages insisting that his definition of law was bust and that you do in fact need insurance to legally drive a motor vehicle on public roads.
I say public because I am not positive you actually need a lic to drive on your own property
let alone insurance.
IANAL, but legal training is part of both of my majors and...
23:14
@rlemon You don't need a licence or insurance to drive on private roads in the UK - but there aren't that many of them any more.
Private roads that is
statutes are part of the law, least in the commonwealth and the US, and they over-rule 'case' or common law
@rlemon It also turns out you're not willing to consider that you're wrong
well 'private roads' here I am mostly talking about unmarked country roads or back roads in cottage areas
and by definition, statutes are the law
(contrasting with the napoleonic code, where you only have civil/statute law)
@connor.js: you seem unable to do the same.
@connor.js but I am not wrong in this instance. You are arguing the law with the government that created it. I gave you the articles, you ignored them.
I know what the laws in my country are.
23:16
@rlemon It seems to me you know very little about you're country
ok. link me to an official document from my government that supports your argument.
because I've linked mine.
then when you fail to do so, stfu.
also, for this room: The debate is, do you need insurance to legally operate a vehicle in Ontario, Canada (where I have lived my entire life)
@rlemon That is not the debate
really? when did you change subjects? because you jumped around a lot
and where did it come out that I don't know who leads my country?
when were we even talking about that?
@rlemon No, it was legal vs. lawful
no, that is when you started using semantics to try to change the debate.
23:19
@rlemon A long time ago
and all legal documents refer to it as "Ontario Law"
so that is the term I use
want to argue my government has it wrong? take it up with them
@rlemon My argument was the definition of a driver and legal vs. lawful, which you still haven't explained the difference
because you make random accusations and ask pointless questions when your argument is refuted.
@rlemon Specifically when you said that the queen has no control in canada. Not saying this because i live in uk, just because we were talking about it a while ago
@rlemon What?
the queen doesn't actually have control in Canada.
she is a figure head. that is all.
23:22
@rlemon Ok
how is that?
@rlemon Ok, let's have some questions answered then
The Canada Act 1982 (1982 c. 11) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that was passed at the request of the Canadian federal government to "patriate" Canada's constitution, ending the necessity for the country to request certain types of amendment to the Constitution of Canada to be made by the British parliament. The Act also formally ended the "request and consent" provisions of the Statute of Westminster 1931 in relation to Canada, whereby the British parliament had a general power to pass laws extending to Canada at its own request. Annexed as Schedule B to the Act is t...
try looking into the history of a country before you make wild accusations
this is basic shit we are taught in primary school
If the land that you purchase is self-governing and politically unrestrained, why are you forced to pay annual taxes to the "Crown"?
also
If the Queen lacks any real power, why are all our naval ships named HMCS?
lol we don't pay taxes to the "crown" because of that
we are only responsible for the costs incurred (royal residences, state visits, lieutenants) inside Canada.
@rlemon evidence to support that?
evidence to support we still pay taxes today?
you are the one making the claim.
23:26
I'll give some resources that are from canada so you consider
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@allquixotic LOLCODE, for when BrainFuck just won't do...
@allquixotic then there's always piet fizzbuzz:
So apparently, Microsoft is going to combine the three versions of its OS (full Windows, WinRT and WinPhone) into a single unified experience across all devices.
Also note in that article, it states the queen is the head of state
yes. and we pay the costs incurred by them In Canada like I stated.
we pay no taxes overseas
The monarchy of Canada is the core of both Canada's federalism and its Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, being the foundation of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Canadian government and each provincial government. The current Canadian monarch, since 6 February 1952, is Queen Elizabeth II. Although the person of the sovereign is equally shared with fifteen other independent countries within the Commonwealth of Nations, each country's monarchy is separate and legally distinct. As a result, the current monarch is officially titled Queen of Canada and, in ...
23:33
@rlemon Ill get some more info
@rlemon In canada what is the final step before a bill becomes a law?
it is okay. you've disturbed one room with your nonsense today and now we are starting on another. your argument have been refuted over and over and you keep pulling more useless crap out of your ass to try to make up for something. I don't know what? but really. you need to stop with the pointless debating.
so have a good night. go make some tin foil hats or something. maybe order a pizza.
sorry @root-access - later.
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