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02:06
@Braiam Who killed the chat now?
02:40
@JimmyHoffa you
 
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04:31
Is it just me, or is that a suspiciously pirated-sounding filename? superuser.com/questions/666677/…
!! tell 11910638 orlmente
 
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05:42
@adam2510 Welcome to Root Access chat for Super Users! I am this channel's helpful chat bot. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help. For bot commands, type !!listcommands
 
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07:12
Morning. Yawns
 
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09:58
@Bob It's a common naming pattern for family and holiday videos
10:12
@OliverSalzburg and linux livecds
Right! ...right
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Q: Can Modem TP-Link W8951ND accept Internet request from certain IP?

user267785I just setup a local proxy to monitor our office's internet usage. Our onboard LAN card is fried and now I'm using new card, so there's only 1 usable network adapter right now I have set our Modem IP to something else so employees must connect to our proxy to get to the internet, but I think we ...

What is this guy talking about?
He wants to configure his modem to only accept packets from a specific IP address?
10:46
I THINK he wants a vpn
11:16
humerous answer to stupid question of the week
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A: How do I upgrade my system cache?

larry the lobstergo to cache and carry they'll be able to help you out, but take your own bags cus they charge for thier own!

@Psycogeek: its a known troll
@Bob Until you finish the NSFWOnebox script, this might interest you: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/203302/…
Bob
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@OliverSalzburg completely forgot about that :P
11:33
hm. our favourite troll is posting almost coherent answers.
Ugh, some application is constantly causing the "ding" system sound to be played
Seems like it was Outlook, wtf
No, it's not Outlook. WTF
Stupid mIRC, somehow captured Ctrl+Break and the signal was "stuck" there which caused it to constantly abort scripts and ding the hell out my system
11:44
@JourneymanGeek I don't get it
@OliverSalzburg: pail
;p
@OliverSalzburg another reason to leave that stupid sound on. so you can hear psycotic loops, and viruses takeing off in the system. Just need 2 different sounds one for MS programs and different one for viruses :-)
@Psycogeek It would be awesome if Windows would indicate which process caused the sound to be played
This one is one of my favorites in this category :P
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Q: How do I turn off the click sound when closing a tab in chrome?

nosEvery time I close a tab in Chrome, it makes a click sound. How do I turn off that sound? I reported that issue back in Oct 2010. The problem doesn't appear on all clients and the reason is still unclear. Common attempts at solving the issue include simply turning off the sound in Windows. But ...

12:29
@OliverSalzburg File Monitor
12:40
superuser.com/questions/666842/… soooooo tempted to send this to SO
Bob
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@JourneymanGeek I think my context meter might be broken - it's reading a 0.
@Bob: known troll
Hey @JourneymanGeek I bought and built the new hardware yesterday :D
@ThatHelpVampireGuy: ooh
what did you end up going with?
That case I showed you, plus a Gigabyte w/ dual Celeron 847 mobo, 3 sata ports, 8 USB 3.0, dual gigabit lan... quite good
12:47
... 8 usb 3.0?
ooh, atom celery
odd number of sata ports, but in that case, meh, can't use em all
@JourneymanGeek huh?
8 usb 3.0 seems tasty, as does the dual gig-e
@ThatHelpVampireGuy: I'm used to sata ports coming in 4s ;p
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, agreed!
12:49
my bad, not a celery atom
@JourneymanGeek What's a "celery atom"?
the next gen celerions and pentiums will be atom based
After I bought the case for the triple I'd pay for a "normal sized" one ($120 x $40), and it has space for a single HDD, I found there were in stores cases with smaller heights and more depths that hold more HDDs
@ThatHelpVampireGuy: I told you ;p
Also I wasn't aware the connectors on the cases have to be usb 3.0 compliants, mine aren't so only the back connectors are 3.0 =/
12:50
mini itx cases are generally pricy
lol
@ThatHelpVampireGuy: oh, there's ways around that
you can probably get a header -> dual female USB 3.0 cable
and route it out cleverly
Now I have to choose either FreeNAS, NAS4free, Open Media Vault or something else
wierdly, if I was building a nas today, I'd consider windows 8
(no, I've not gone nuts)
I plugged my Ubuntu LiveUSB and it booted quite fast, even on USB 2.0 (Well, faster than my shitty 2008 AMD laptop, anyway. Not that it would be hard.)
I could use storage spaces and hacked together deduplication to get roughly the same effect as ZFS pools
slower of course, but deduplication on zfs apparently needs a dedicated SSD for cache
lol
@JourneymanGeek I heard it needs LOTS of RAM
2GB for each tb or so
12:53
Hmm is it worth it buying extended laptop warranty?
@ThatHelpVampireGuy: yeah
well, pretty much ;p
right now the Drive of Impending Doom is getting pretty impressive space savings off window dedup
ZFS is basically designed to constantly make sure your data is fine and dedupe it
and the hell with the resource consumption
13:22
Jeeze...
Try to figure out what's wrong about this line:
echo "Operation complete at `date`" > $LOG_FILE
@OliverSalzburg echo "Operation complete at " $(date) > $LOG_FILE
;)
@Braiam Nope
not being redirected to $LOGFILE?
braiam@bt:~$ LOGFILE="/home/braiam/file"
braiam@bt:~$ echo "Operation complete at `date`" > $LOGFILE
braiam@bt:~$ cat $LOGFILE
Operation complete at Tue Oct 29 09:26:49 AST 2013
@OliverSalzburg don't see any problem... what's the value of $LOG_FILE?
@Braiam The problem is that it uses > instead of >> :P
you bastard!
D:
13:29
This is from the script that ran that 5TB rsync operation the other day :P
Good times!
lol
so it overwrites instead of appends?
rotate the darn logfile.... :P
that way doesn't matter what it does
@JourneymanGeek Right
of course, its hard to tell you wanted it to append ;p
@Braiam It's actually mailed to root and then deleted after that line I just pasted
@JourneymanGeek Well, the message content was the hint for that ;D
13:32
@OliverSalzburg: a good question never makes you assume anything ;p
though by the time you've formulated it. QUACK.
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@JourneymanGeek DRive Of Impending Doom => DROID
@Bob AN DRive Of Impending Doom => ANDROID?
err, aren't bugs offtopic here too?
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Depends.
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Q: faulted newly created files when no free space

mxlianAfter running out of space in the $HOME i found some of my scripts failing, leaving corrupted files arround. I'll explain with an example: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, the / partition is ext4 with the $HOME in the same partition and the encrypted home dir option(asked on installation) active. When ...

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We do have some good questions asking for workarounds for fairly common bugs.
13:40
bug + stupidity?
Bob
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You shouldn't report bugs here, but it's generally fine to ask for any known solution/workaround.
workaround = upgrade?
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@Braiam 12.04 is the last LTS
it's still supported
bug was fixed in the 2012... what the heck is he doing without upgrading packages?
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13:44
@Braiam Also, that question wasn't a bug report - it was only in the answer that he discovered that it was a bug.
@JourneymanGeek "Drive of Impending Doom"?
@Bob a ton of "seemingly innocent" questions' only valid answer is basically "you need to write code, or else there's no way to do that", or "the software is just broken and there's no known fix", etc
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@allquixotic hi
i wonder how many of the querants actually know that when they ask it
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@allquixotic Yes, but that doesn't automatically make them bad questions.
It's a question, not a blog post. The asker can't be expected to know the answer, because... well... do I really have to explain that?
13:48
@Bob I'm not claiming the querant has to know the answer, but a lot of questions end up being closed once an answer becomes apparent, which is kinda funny
people see the answer and go "oh, that's off topic" (or something)
the problem with questions that results bugs is that they are honey for users that find a "similar" or "same" behavior and answer their crappy way to solve it.
Bob
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@allquixotic damn it - the one time I've actually decided I'm getting a dedi, it's perpetually out of stock - and I missed the last time they added it by half a day :S
@Bob :/
maybe the world is conspiring against you to prevent you from ever renting a dedi
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lol
@allquixotic or maybe the goal is to force me to get an Aus dedi at 4x the price
14:03
@Bob for what? minecrap?
@ThatHelpVampireGuy laptop hdd from my old laptop. I use it for transient files, and sync it with downloads to my pi. It had bad clusters, and it was replaced under warranty.
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A: Programs minimized for long time takes long time to "wake up"

spelltoxHad the same problem on my old PC, Got a new one about a month ago (i7,17gb RAM,64bit OS) and all that "wake-up" time is gone. In more detail : the low RAM (4GB) is probably the cause : Windows will favor recent application/processes over "sleeping" ones- and so it will let them use the physica...

riiight... just use your little end-user terminology and restate my answer.
le sigh
lol
@allquixotic: I answered a question today with no upvotes, and two answers that covered part of my answers ;p
don't tell me that we should tone down on the awesomeness?
fortunately, since I FINALLY got my damned electorate badge....
14:08
@JourneymanGeek just got mine recently too - lol
you were working pretty hard to vote on questions, weren't you? :D
@allquixotic: not particularly.
I normally vote on questions that... I didn't had to figure out op's wording...
and not vote on answers :P
THAT was hard
I want to reopen this question
darn reputation...
Bob
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14:11
@allquixotic minecrap?
@Bob see the edit history :P
@Braiam heh... DHCP clients don't tend to change very fast, so the "argument" made by the close voters is bogus... that's an area of system software that's been stagnant for years
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@allquixotic Paging happens even when you have plenty of 'free' RAM, though I believe there's a longer delay before something is considered inactive. Windows prefers to use it for the disk cache. Pretty sure you already know this, but it's not in the answer :P
actually MSOffice doesn't start up if there isn't at least >100MB of page file :(
@Bob pretty sure it's based on the percentage of RAM that's in use by applications... below a certain threshold it won't swap even minimized programs
and i could've sworn there's a registry setting to change that
@Braiam: proper way is to make a request on meta
14:15
@JourneymanGeek no the proper way is to vote to reopen and raise an army of reopen voters to help out :D
also, turning off your pagefile is silly
don't need a Q on meta or a diamond mod
@JourneymanGeek I haven't done that... ever :S
@allquixotic: Thats how I do it. And on occation, I drop it after realising I can't make up a good reason to reopen something ;p
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Oh sure Google, give me a TechNet article for Windows 2000...
o.O
14:16
!!tell 11914052 no
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> Setting LargeSystemCache to 1 has somewhat less extreme behavior in Windows 2000. It sets the system cache maximum working set to 80% of the size of main memory, so that the file cache cannot overrun all the memory. (If you think reserving 20% of memory for other applications is a bit arbitrary, you are right. More on this subject later.)
> There is no trace of either the LanmanServer Size parameter or LargeSystemCache in the Windows 2000 Resource Kit documentation, but you can still find LargeSystemCache in its customary spot in the Registry.
it's interesting that there's a TechNet article for Win2000, but no equivalent for Vista/7/8
I've found this happens far too often
Oh god. Step right back into the 90s! archive.arstechnica.com/tweak/nt/cache.html
back when AT was super awesome
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I like this one. Completely broken in Firefox, too. archive.arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/01q2/limits/limits-1.html
> The Ultimate Limits of Computers
> As an example, Lloyd explores what effect these limits would have on what he terms an 'ultimate laptop' - a computer massing 1 kg, and occupying a volume of 1 liter.
@Bob 1 kg is fairly heavy by ultrabook standards, isn't it?
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14:22
@allquixotic I believe so.
sigh
let me break out os/2
noooo
these things, they need to be done. for the science.
@JourneymanGeek NO
I'm going to spam chat with bad SU questions until @JmanGeek stops talking about old OSes
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Q: Installing software in Dropbox (or in a similar service) Will it work in other computers?

pablofiumaraIs it possible to install software -not portable apps- in a Dropbox folder (in a folder of a similar service such as Google Drive, Copy, SkyDrive, etc) and expect it to run correctly in any computer that access to that folder (of course after files from the installation has been uploaded to the n...

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@JourneymanGeek Do you think you could fire up a copy of CP/M?
14:25
@Bob: not yet
@allquixotic I noticed just now that your nick is impossible to write without autocompletion...
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Q: How do I recover my router password without resetting it?

PacerierHow do we get or bypass the password of a router (Linksys Wireless-N Home Router WRT120N) if the default username and pass doesn't work?

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Q: Convert PDF to exe to raise security

kamiar3001I have some PDFs I want convert all to .exe files and put them into folder on my CD and my customers run .exe files instead of PDF and for security reasons. so I have tried "pdf2exe" tools but I need something totally free. pdf2exe is evaluation version and there are some limitations. Please te...

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@Braiam How is it impossible?
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Q: Replace Google with Bing in Firefox

kinokijuf Possible Duplicate: How do I change the search engine used by about:home? I do not accept Google’s new privacy policy, so I have switched to Bing. Is there a way to replace the google on Firefox’s start page with a bing? I am using a localised version of Firefox, so Firefox with Bing ...

all-qui-xo-tic is alien in my language
@allquixotic: done ;p
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Q: Computer information regarding software

missyA desktop has expensive software on it.Can that software be damaged if the cords to the computer are cut while the computer is shutdown?

> if the cords to the computer are cut while the computer is shutdown?
I'm just repaying brain pain for brain pain -- you make my brain hurt by running OS/2; I'll make your brain hurt by posting stupid questions
14:28
WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU THINKING?
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@JourneymanGeek Oh, it worked in Chrome anyway.
@Braiam all-quixotic
@Bob what the heck kind of weird markup do they have to be using that it works in Chrome and OS/2 Netscape, but not Firefox?
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!!tell Braiam define quixotic
@Braiam quixotic Possessing or acting with the desire to do noble and romantic deeds, without thought of realism and practicality.
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@ChatBotJohnCavil Exactly :D
Bob
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14:29
Heh, FF doesn't like the doctype:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
o.O
<!-- included script to fix Netscape's resize bug - resize_script.js -->
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function reloadPage(init) {
  if (init==true) with (navigator) {if ((appName=="Netscape")&&(parseInt(appVersion)==4)) {
    document.pgW=innerWidth; document.pgH=innerHeight; onresize=reloadPage; }}
  else if (innerWidth!=document.pgW || innerHeight!=document.pgH) location.reload();
}
reloadPage(true);
// -->
</script>
<!-- end included script to fix Netscape's resize bug - resize_script.js -->
legacy web code :P
legacy-legacy-legacy .... srsly
@allquixotic: see, if I hadn't done that, you wouldn't have realised how odd it was
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There's a random </HEAD> in the middle of the body...
"netscape" was all you had to say to define "legacy-legacy-legacy"
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I see this surprisingly often, actually.
14:32
Chrome/WebKit was like "whatever dude, if you want to write webpages targeting IE 1.0, I'll render them"
Also, I am disappoint in chrome lately :(
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Another random </HEAD>
Firefox was like "WHAT?! This isn't pure standards-compliant HTML5? huff! Go thither and play in the mud with your friends, hussy!"
<head> desk </head> ?
@JourneymanGeek I swear I read BJ in the AU room :P
14:33
@JourneymanGeek Why is there a desk in my head?!
@DarthAndroid: over enthusiasm. Also, there are no <desk> tags.
and attributes?
@JourneymanGeek There are in my templating javascript application!
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Q: Why does all file search perform worse than Google Web Search?

Cris StringfellowGoogle gives me results from the "vast internets" within microseconds. Those results are (or used to be) utterly awesome. They have changed the world. Okay, but when I want to search my "vast store" of PDFs, HTML, and other docs (that never get edited but only accessed) I keep for my research...

@allquixotic google as hard drive...there's an idea...
14:35
am I still talking about OS/2? ;p
@JourneymanGeek OK, I'll caesum
HAMMERTIME!
MALLEUS TEMPUS!
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did @ChatBotJohnCavil respond to himself?
@JourneymanGeek i edited
14:37
:D
sorry. I'm resisting the urge to go all hammertime on someone myself
or savage some ankles.
someone could totally run a bot and get their bot and cavil to talk to each other, though
When buying laptop under 3 years of manufacturer's warranty, does purchase receipt specify that or I must print receipt online or get it sent from manufacturer?
@Boris_yo depends on how they want to screw with you using their policies :P
14:40
@Braiam DELL is the brand
@Boris_yo: in a lot of cases, you MUST register
and its based off their records and the service tag
hm
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A: My computer is playing audio without any program open

gigipotterI Am Currently Having This Same Issue, Every Program Off, Rebooted Computer, It's Like I'm Intercepting A Large Variet of Radio Stations And TV Shows, Bits And Pieces, Woke Up At 1:39 Am To IT Coming On ...After Installing AVG And Running A Scan To Find Nothing...In The End, How Was ThIs Resolved...

@JourneymanGeek CamelCase?
saladcase
<3 my FiddlerCore based proxy so much :)
@JourneymanGeek that's lazycase
@JourneymanGeek you win
@allquixotic were we in a competition?
14:46
even the original question is comedic gold
> and making my life impossible.
and I'm not entirely sure what to do about that double answer.
edit them together and flag one?
ahh, got aibobot to do that ;p
Me an my big mouth (I guess) I called Dell support where i live. After giving service tag to him, the guy opened technical case for someone to follow up with me later. When I asked about warranty he said to let him check because something does not seem right and there he told me my warranty expired 6 months ago and I have to renew it. If I didn't ask about warranty would I get "free" service or eventually they would catch on?

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