number of round trips is vastly different between the two

latency matters more in the first case than in the second

but you can't use an MSS that looks like the second example unless packet loss is very low or zero

@Griffin I will keep my name, thank you. The info which mod handled the flag is not for the public, but if you want the question to be reopened I guess the best place to ask would be Meta Super User, or make a bold edit so it goes into the review queue.

oh god

the advice in the answers

@Bob Which answers…

@slhck the two utterly wrong ones

@slhck But the question is correct.

@Bob You mean the ones that were now removed entirely?

@slhck perhaps

> deleted by slhck♦ 29 secs ago

@Griffin the question, ya. but the answers?

helllooooo overheating/melting/fire

nginx's configs look funny

@Bob Hey now. Some people out there might be fire golems and actually like overheating/melting/fire. Don't be discriminatory!

@Bob I'm talking about the closed question not that one :P

Bob and Griffin seems to have a similarish gravatars at 2 bit.

@jokerdino Don't use 2 bit?

@Griffin ah

@Bob china doesnt know what a fuse is :-) They still like fireworks.

@Psycogeek the wire is the fuse! :P

@somequixotic I think I drop packets in real life or is it processing packets? You see, I hear what person says but cannot comprehend the context.

review audit lol

Who heard about USB Host that Chinese tablets have?

It's function is not only to transfer data but charge connected device given it's chargeable. You never realize this until suddenly your tablet is down in remaining power by 30% fast.

@somequixotic I hate those, i am like, Huh, ok re-read again, What, re-read, uhh, there is something . . . Frilling audit.

@Boris_yo Android USB connect "do you want to [Charge] or [Mount and charge] uhh how about [Mount only]

@DEFCON1 tell us good news.

you got it all running, it was just cat hair in the cpu socket :-)

@Psycogeek I remember this dialog but last time it didn't appear when I transferred books to NOOK...

@Boris_yo I dont think i have ever seen a mobile device yet that did anything other than Oh Look Power, can i have some :-)

mabey there is some apple stuff out there that is so propriatary in what it expects before charging, it would wait for the apple logo certified connection, prior to sucking.

@Psycogeek , hi there , exams till saturday.troubleshooting on sunday only.

took psu out

to check voltages.

but not completed the process

@DEFCON1 ahh

seems you guys are out of topic

?

hey @Griffin how was the class buddy

@Psycogeek Iron Man 2 and 3 sucked, agree?

@Boris_yo no.they were not so good as the first one.

@Boris_yo I dont think i have got past iron man 1 yet. unmemorable but ok movie. Saw starTrek finnaly. it has been Marvel Comiced

@DEFCON1 First one would suffice alone as a fine Iron Man movie without needing sequels that were made for cash-in!

@DEFCON1 have fun, or study hard and have fun later :-)

@Psycogeek There's a story already (comics, books) now Hollywood without putting some additional efforts, just want to cash-in.

@DEFCON1 I finished and I wanted to sleep when I got home but I couldn't. In it now and not feeling as sleepy.

For the love of money is the root of all evil. Applies perfectly to Hollywood.

@Psycogeek yup.thnx :-)

bye guys

i should be back on books

bye @Griffin exam tomarrow

@Boris_yo Well star track certannly did have action, and superhero type of action, but non of the philosophy stuff, no difficult moral descisions, no ramifications, and they really need to do something about the sheilds :-)

@Psycogeek Just to capture young audience that doesn't care about philosophy and morals. Do young kids have morals these days?

@Boris_yo violent crime is still down, i would not doubt thier general morals, we have to apply the lack of morals to the makers not the watchers :-)

@Psycogeek You like to change subject lines, do you? Anyway, young kids don't have movie standards developed. They can't criticize appropriately or at all.

I am a bad person

@Psycogeek Did I tell you how I once sent out of warranty old HP laptop to HP certified repair center and when required part was missing to fix problem, they returned me back my laptop with scratched screen? I complained but had no proof. Laptop was handled by inland UPS delivery right to the lab and vise versa. How could I oversee delivery? I couldn't and thus you can't prove anything in such cases.

@Boris_yo you have to hope that somewhere in the process is a human that cares or understand your plight, and believes your not trying to run a con on them . plus having the package insured.

<--- goes to walk the computer, i mean dog.

@Psycogeek ... I mean JourneymanGeek.

@DoktoroReichard Welcome to Root Access chat for Super Users! Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.

Thanks... I was wondering if newer versions of Firefox lost the option to disable images from loading automatically

@DoktoroReichard googling it: support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/963352

go to about:config and set permissions.default.image to 2

it didn't lose the option; they just hid it so it doesn't display in the options GUI

@somequixotic yeah, I did find that out eventually; it does bother me a little to go into about:config. They gave some relatively interesting reasons for why they did it, though. Thanks.

How to trust a new internet.

Wonderful prose, or google translate?

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Could somebody tell me why this answer (superuser.com/a/640608/54468) was deleted?

@JohnCavil Welcome to Root Access chat for Super Users! Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.

I suspect that it is because it is link only.

The goal of the SE sites is to collect knowledge. Not to point to external links which may change or disappear.

@Hennes I didn't think much more than a link was required, it's a pretty straightforward answer.

Interestingly the same answer got an upvote elsewhere (superuser.com/a/640604/54468).

Aye, we are not always consistent enough

Also, sometimes rules change

But it would not hurt to add

in the body of the answer

Along with a line or two about what it does

Ok I will do that, thanks!

The deleted answer is still around. Can you undelete it as owner?

"A moderator has deleted this post and it cannot be undeleted"

I will vote to undelete it, so that you can edit it.

OK, voted. Added one line to it, striked though the URL.

Please edit it to a full answer as soon as you can. (I can edit, but it is your post).

@Hennes Sorry looks like I overwrote your edits. But in any case it looks like it is still deleted.

It is still deleted and marked for attention.

That may take some time

I just wanted to explain why I think the post was deleted. Which basically is a guess.

@Hennes Ok, thanks for your help.

never thought the square root of negative 1 would be so helpful, eh?

YOu are just imagining things. :)

rimshot

wow -- the holy grail of win32 compiling of kinda-sorta-posix code -- Cygwin is obsolete in my mind now -- MSYS and Mingw64

for one thing, fork() and exec() doesn't take like 5 seconds; it takes a small fraction of a second

Stupid questions you cant ask on SU: "Have You Ever Lost A MicroSD card?"

(they so small)

@Bob turns out I seem to have a spare IP for another container if you really need it

@Psycogeek Haha.. wat? There's a saying "There are no stupid questions but people" which makes this question not stupid FYI

!!test

@somequixotic That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

whew, still connected... I did /etc/init.d/networking restart as root on the physical box (crossing fingers extremely tightly) and it didn't even interrupt the existing TCP sockets lolol

Any Android users around?

@somequixotic Is it a debian box?

@IvoFlipse Maybe...

Nevermind @Boris_yo I just deleted all the photo's for my album, Dropbox had a backup

I'm not 100% confident that Google+ auto-backup actually keeps everything indefinitely

@IvoFlipse May the force be with you

@DarthAndroid yep

still scary; I have to beg the host to give me 2 hours of KVM-over-IP

@somequixotic Might want to note that /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated in debian because it has potential to nuke the interfaces and not bring them back up

Recommended workaround is /etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start

@DarthAndroid that looks scary too; what if the stop exits with an error code?

@somequixotic Then you're in the same boat as if you did a restart.

ah well, it worked anyway

@basically, restart is the same as stop|start, except that it a) stops but does not restart the DHCP client, and b) stops but does not restart all interfaces (it only restarts interfaces marked auto, which by default... is only loopback. Whoops!)

(And I've accidentally shut down a colocated server's networking card with the restart command. At 11:30PM. And I don't have direct access to contact the DC and request a KVM )

(That was a fun night. )

@DarthAndroid not using DHCP; static IP; and I have auto for the ones I want and not auto for the ones I don't want

so that really doesn't affect me

like, at all

Yes, but for default debian setups, blindly calling networking restart will kill remote access.

currently trying to get kvm working on Debian Squeeze host and virt-manager keeps telling me that kvm isn't supported, even though the module is loaded

Which, my original point (that I apparently forgot to actually say) was that your luck was not in it preserving the TCP connections, but in it coming back at all :D

fluster level approaching critical, though... I just want an OpenSUSE 12.3 instance... already have OpenVZ; ideal would be to get it running on OpenVZ; but it seems the systemd within OpenSUSE does not like Linux 2.6.32 at all

@somequixotic does the CPU have the support for it?

@DarthAndroid oh yeah, by a long shot -- it's a Sandy Bridge Core i7

oh lol.

kernel module kvm_intel is loaded and happy

exact error is?

something like virtualization type kvm is not supported for architecture x86_64

already exited out of SSH on my phone; gonna go home where I can get a real keyboard and dig into it more

i want to pick up a miracast dongle on my way home.

it's funny, but my Droid Maxx Android phone is a better development / sysadmin box than my Windows desktop is

You just haven't tweaked out your windows box :P

pfft

I keep all my tools in a hosted hg repo with a short install script. Just pull it down and double-click, instant windows sysadmin box

that damn thing is more "lived-in" than a 1950s abandoned building in an inner city

my main gripe with my desktop is that it takes 10 minutes to boot up... there is absolutely nothing I can do about the fact that the RAID controller all by itself takes nearly a minute to boot up, and then as soon as I login, 1000000 programs try to start themselves, check for updates, nag me, etc

and it seems that some programs are sneaky enough to get around me turning them off in msconfig

FakeRaid with full-disk SSD caching

solves all that

(yay intel)

fakeraid with anything is not a substitute for a real hardware RAID card -- but the SSD cache would be nice on top

lacking the money atm to just get an SSD

in fact, ever since they came out I've lacked the money to get them... the only SSD I have is in my Surface Pro

fakeraid is a perfect substitute when you don't need real hardware raid though

Just need 4 drives to function as a raid10 and be visible during windows setup :)

(just make sure the system is on a UPS) It's not a real substitute, but it's not bad either.

fakeraid has problems with booting on UEFI and having single volumes greater than 2 TB in my experience

Well, I can't say I've gone above 2Tb (4x 1Tb in raid10), but there's no issues UFEI booting from IntelRST

I'd rather have hardware RAID and not worry about it, but in practice, with my current RAID card, until they make them fully UEFI compatible and booting faster, it means that my desktop takes so long to boot up that I'm usually only motivated to boot it up if I get home super early, or the weekends (obviously)

there's already a newer generation of RAID cards out by Adaptec than the one I have, though, so that might be the fix

I fricking hate when you lock out your password and the error message is "to get help, go to some-site-you-need-your-password-to-get-to.com";

whoever comes up with that kind of thing: you are not allowed to call your species homo sapiens sapiens

Heh. That sounds familiar

Half my boot time (1m 55s boot) is from the RAID card

And I usually power on the desktop when I wake, then go to the kitchen to make coffee.

Much the same as at my work places. Put down stuff, turn on computer, get coffee, login, ...

Captain Kirk cringed while watching Miley Cyrus:

@Hennes Why not use Standby?

Because stand by requires booting and then rebooting and booting again if you switch OS

Uh, let me clarify that.

Boot out of stand-bye

Shutdown

Boot desired OS

@somequixotic is processor and ram based raid even required for raid0? I have gone from real raid to dual controller (so called) fake raid, without any increase in cpu usage or reduced speed. They were saying that it is for the parity that real raid is the great need ?

I think that raid kinds could be refered to as MSraid (more software based) and MHraid (more hardware based), and OSraid (os dependant raid). Because saying "software raid" doesnt cut it when it requires hardware :-) and saying "hardware raid" still doesnt work because they almost always have software, and IDing OS dependant or OS assembled can be important.

OSraid vrses at least some type of cheap raid card differers in that there is usually zero additional hardware utlaised in any way, just the OS tossing them together.

@Psycogeek A lot of conspiracy theories lately that make my head spin. There one that repeats however; scientists working with aliens underground, under military bases. Tax dollars paid for tunnels being built and underground cities. They have agreement with aliens that for exchange of advanced technology, aliens will be kept silent. But aliens with their abilities took over people and now partly controlling politics. They own shadow government and kidnap humans for experiments and to eat them.

@Boris_yo reptillian aliens no less. I always pictured that the real aliens would be slugs or ants :-) never for a moment would i have thought reptile :-)

Then of course they could be silicon based, and in reality they are hiding in plain site. people are even paying money to have them and carrying them around. While they doom the world with trecherous things like HTML5 and YouTube cat videos.

@Psycogeek That's because you watched to many old aliens movies in 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.

@Psycogeek They got to keep Sherrie busy with entrainment, no? While executing their plans behind the scenes.

That's why porno got so accessible and popular.

@Boris_yo If they are reptillian they probably uses Solar Sail methods for transport, but if they are insect or slug based, they could get here with simple FTL travel. A person who believes in it has to think of these things before they can make logical sence of it :-)

@Psycogeek I don't even know these abbreviations you mention. Maybe I am not alien after all?

The key to arrival on the planet Unseen, would be to use the method that russian Meteroite/asteroid used. While the whole astronomy world was watching out for a 76meter asteroid that got "close" to earth, the russian 36meter metor just walked right in without anybody noticing.

@Psycogeek There were 2 of them? I don't remember...