Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:08

@Hennes: remarkably common way of troubleshooting, one reason the proposal to make http 2.0 a binary format is silly ;p

hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/07/13/1331235/…

I wonder what he's doing where a regular keyboard is 'too slow'

Canadian Luke

05:37

I can't remember where the link got posted... But about 6 hours ago, I clicked a link for a web page on Arquade, clicked the video, and I've been watching YouTube on that site for the past 6 hours

I can't remember what I originally found though

Journeyman Geek

lol

sounds like me and wikipedia

Canadian Luke

deepdungeonsofdoom.com

Just kept looking at related videos

Bob

Cracked.com is another inexplicable browser narcotic. They could write a list of '17 worst haircuts in the Ottoman Empire' and I'd read through to the end, then click on all the links at the end.

Canadian Luke

Something like that

Journeyman Geek

totally

Michael Frank

06:09

@CanadianLuke That looks cool. Bookmarks

Canadian Luke

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Just something cool... I like that group

Michael Frank

Oh what?! I bought $30 worth of games from Steam, and it said I'd get 2 steam trading cards... They were both the Tomb Raider cards. :(

Bob

@JourneymanGeek you getting a Visionnaire?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: yeah

Bob

Noir? Chrome?

Journeyman Geek

06:13

noir

;p

Bob

I'm considering a Noir

Journeyman Geek

I'm not a big fan of excessive shiny

Bob

and they're running out of the earlybird ones

lol

Canadian Luke

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Journeyman Geek

yeah ;p

asked my brother to help me order it ;p

Bob

06:15

o.O

@JourneymanGeek why not do it yourself?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I don't have a debit card, remember? ;p

Bob

ahh

is it that hard to get one?

oooh, kickstarter is pay with amazon o.O

Canadian Luke

@JourneymanGeek Credit*

Journeyman Geek

@CanadianLuke: I mean debit card ;p

I have local ATM cards, but nothing I can use online

Canadian Luke

You can use a debit card for that?

Bob

06:18

there, pledged

@CanadianLuke sure, I'm using one

Journeyman Geek

there's debit cards you can use like credit cards

Bob

well, depends on your definition of "debit card"

mine's a "Debit Mastercard", which can act like any other Mastercard

Canadian Luke

We have Visa, Mastercard, prepaid Visa (like a debit), then debit cards

Journeyman Geek

yup

there's mastercards you can use online, and ones you can't ;p

/me probably will get a proper online usable card when he gets a job

Bob

@JourneymanGeek would it cost anything?

Journeyman Geek

06:20

@Bob: I think there's an annual fee

Bob

I used to use prepaid Visas. about 10% extra for the card :(

@JourneymanGeek ah. not while I'm a student, thankfully (though it's account fees; the card itself is technically free)

Journeyman Geek

was considering prepaids

but no real advantage for me

Bob

@CanadianLuke what exactly is a "debit card" over there anyway?

just for ATMs?

Canadian Luke

Just for bank machines or purchases. Linked directly to the bank account

Bob

This was quite helpful.

Journeyman Geek

06:22

@CanadianLuke: our local ATM cards are like that

confusingly, my atm card works like a credit card at physical shops (since my bank isn't linked to NETS - the payment system most of the local banks have used for ages)

Canadian Luke

Never heard of NETS

Journeyman Geek

its a singapore only thing

Network for Electronic Transfers

The Network for Electronic Transfers (Singapore) Pte Ltd (Abbreviation: NETS; ) NETS was founded in 1985 to establish Singapore’s national PIN Debit scheme, NETS EFTPOS (Electronic Funds Transfer at Point-of-Sale), propelling Singapore into the age of electronic payments. NETS is the scheme operator, processor and acquirer of the service. NETS is owned by Singapore’s largest banks, DBS Bank, OCBC Bank and United Overseas Bank (UOB). Innovative Payment Solutions Today, NETS offers multiple payment and financial processing services and is designated as a national payment system by the Mo...

Canadian Luke

06:43

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Bob

@CanadianLuke wat

Canadian Luke

It's a commercial for Kenwood stereos

Journeyman Geek

Thats strange

Canadian Luke

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NSFW ^^^

Bob

08:07

@CanadianLuke yea, that much is obvious

Bob

08:53

now... I'm just gonna spam a bit to get that off my screen

Hi

there we go. that sorts out mobile chat.

Journeyman Geek

lol

It would really depend on you screen res wouldn't it?

Bob

yea. I'm on my phone.

Journeyman Geek

yeah, it does it for my laptop but not my desktop

of course, spamming chat by talking about how much to spam chat works perfectly

and, is very very very very very meta

Bob

lol

I didn't want to get flood blocked

Journeyman Geek

;p

annnnd done

that only happens when we talk about pens ;p

Bob

08:57

incidentally, the smiggle pen dropped a little inside the cap while in my pocket.

dripped

Journeyman Geek

I'm probably snagging an old eyeglass case for my fountain pens ;p

Bob

o.o

Journeyman Geek

maybe not >_>

on the other hand, I found my moleskein notebook

Bob

:S

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I got my fiance one for her birthday. She wasn't impressed. :(

Journeyman Geek

09:10

@MichaelFrank: they look good, but the paper is massively finicky

apparently the snobby sorts go for clarefontaine or rhodia ;p

Personally, I'd be happy to find a reliable, cheap source of french grid paper

Michael Frank

I have a Rhodia notebook. ;)

Journeyman Geek

(sort of photocopying the one notebook of the stuff I've been hoarding for no apparent reason ;p)

Michael Frank

French Grid?

Journeyman Geek

crumplegnome.com/products/…

I was amused thats what its called

Michael Frank

Also, I don't think I would have ever thought about buying budgeting software from a Steam Summer Sale deal, but 75% off $60 is a pretty decent deal.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/227320

Huh, looks more like something out of my high school Japanese class...

Journeyman Geek

09:19

lol

we used big gridded paper in chinese class (I took it in kindergarden)

the stuff I have is not quite like this

It doesn't have the lighter vertical lines

its a clarefontaine

amusing

OOOOH

seems I buy the good stuff without realising it when I get a chance ;p

Boris_yo

Getting hang of it. Used Windows AIK to build Vista OS boot image from 3 .WIM files I downloaded from Digital River. Installed Vista with SP1 on first laptop but since it wasn't OEM, some drivers are missing so I had to do searches. Nothing is more tiresome than searching drivers for discontinued Toshiba laptops. They make just too many laptops and then mess up or stop listing downloadable drivers.

OEM license key worked for Vista OS. Seems like as long as I don't change motheboard on laptop, OEM license key that came with it will always work.

I have another Acer laptop with hard drive from lenovo laptop, yet with Vista OEM recovery partition that would never work so I think I just install Vista I downloaded from Digital River. I know finding drivers would be pain.

Michael Frank

Windows should find most of the drivers itself.

Boris_yo

@MichaelFrank It failed to find driver for GeForce Go 7300, Intel Wi-Fi network card and LAN card. I still have controller question marked listed under ACPI or something which I don't know what it is supposed to be. The only way is to install ALL drivers available from Toshiba website, one by one until it will detect and install drivers for this controller.

Michael Frank

Well, not really. If you find out what 'ACPI' is, you can download drivers that would match that device. No point installing drivers for a USB hub if it's clearly not what you're looking for.

Boris_yo

@MichaelFrank I know of no way of finding out what ACPI is. Unless maybe I refer to laptop configuration manual which I don't have.

Journeyman Geek

09:32

@MichaelFrank: thats the stuff

Michael Frank

You could Google what ACPI is. :)

@JourneymanGeek Ahh yea, do you draw a bit?

Journeyman Geek

not really

I do tend to use diagrams and stuff when working stuff out ;p

Michael Frank

I can see how that would be useful. It seems like a strange pad to use just for writing.

Boris_yo

I just checked and saw that ACPI device is no longer listed under question mark so it seems Vista update I am currently running fixed this problem.

But there is last thing listed under question mark which is "Mass Storage Controller" and next to it says: "Location: PCI bus 6, device 4, function 2"

Michael Frank

Do you have a USB drive plugged in?

Boris_yo

09:36

@MichaelFrank Currently Patriot flash drive is plugged in.

I think the more I deal with computers, the more I develop craziness for fixing computers. I become more addicted.

@Hennes Meow

Hennes

Meowning.

Boris_yo

@Hennes Which browser is less memory hungry?

Hennes

lynx and w3m are quite small

I also just deinstalled Dillo from my server.

Boris_yo

And what about these: IE, Chrome, Firefox?

Hennes

@Bob Yay, I was wondering that myself. I almost fired up Google and it just gets answered by canadian maple luke

Boris_yo

09:53

Which of these is less memory hungry?

2 mins ago, by Boris_yo

And what about these: IE, Chrome, Firefox?

Hennes

@Boris_yo Shudders. Once you know which driver is the right one you do a clean re-installation with only the right drivers? Right?

For me IE is very memory hungry because I only use it inside an extra VM.
I simply do not trust IE.

Boris_yo

@Hennes Trust? Why is that? You think IE is the most vulnerable browser?

Hennes

I also find it hard to use. I look for the bookmarks and they are renamed to some weird thing called favorites. But most things I bookmarks is not a favourite

1) IE old version where very vulnerable (granted, since 8 it has improved a lot)
2) IE was use a lot, so it got a lot of attention from worm/virus makers

Item 2 is not IE's fault, but it is a good reason to use a more exotic browser by default

I can add 3) Not many plugins who fully integrate. Which is a ms decision to keep things closed, clean and safe. It also means no things like greasemonkey.

Boris_yo

@Hennes But what happens if you don't know what device is listed under question mark? It could say controller but you have no idea what controller is that. You don't know which driver to download because download page has drivers for many controllers. You could go 1 by 1 and install all drivers for all controllers, but what if you only want to install driver for specific controller and don't want to install drivers for all controllers?

Hennes

I have answered that several times on the site.

Briefly, get the PCI[e] ID of the hardware.

then look up what it is

Boris_yo

09:58

@Hennes With programs like "System Information for Windows by Gabriel Topala"?

Hennes

No, use device management, hardware ID

Boris_yo

@Mokubai Good day to you sir.

Hennes

start, run, devmgmt.msc

Boris_yo

@Hennes Understand but what can you make out of information in Hardware IDs? According to your picture, I don't understand how information displayed there can identify device for me.

Hennes

TYpe the HW ID in google

Or in a PCI database

Boris_yo

10:04

@Hennes PCI database is a website, right?

Hennes

YEs

Boris_yo

@Hennes Interesting tip, did not know that. I guess without internet, it would be impossible to know.

Without internet we would still use CDs for installing drivers...

Hennes

Each vendor has its own unique ID
PCI\ven_13C1 means that the vendor of the card I selected is 3ware.
Vendor 8086 is Intel
Vendor 1002 is ATI (now AMD)

Etc etc

@Boris_yo Well, you would have the manual. And you can look at the chips

Or boot FreeBSD and do a pciconf list verbose

Or boot linux and do a lspci -v

Boris_yo

@Hennes I think as my Vista update keeps running, it automatically settles out missing drivers problem in device manager.

Hennes

Those come with build in databases

I think a similar question has been asked quite a few times on Super User

Maybe we should make a nice proper well written canonical answer to it

Boris_yo

10:09

@Hennes Your level of PC knowledge is clearly higher than mine. Please train me master. I want to become your apprentice.

Hennes

First, thy shalt get a IBM XT and learn how to use non-PNP ISA cards.
NExt thou shalt bandage thy hands.

(ISA cards usually had sharp parts)

Boris_yo

lol Clippy...

@TomWijsman Hi, how is your day going?

Hennes

Look mom, more memory:

Tom Wijsman

@Boris_yo Same as every day. :D

Boris_yo

@Hennes This card is soooo long... Circa...?

Hennes

10:11

XT era

Probably 256KiB ish

Boris_yo

@TomWijsman I actually have bi-polar disorder so I am different every day...

Bob

@Hennes Heh. vendor 8086

Boris_yo

@Hennes 256KiB video card?

Hennes

No main memory

Sometimes it came on boards. Sometimes you plugged in the chips

Then it advanced and you got zips.

Boris_yo

@Hennes I once thought I knew a lot about PC until I stumbled upon hard drive adapter in IBM computer. Did not know why hard drive needed adapter.

Hennes

10:13

Then it advanced more and you got 30 pins SIMMs

then 72 pin SIMMs

Boris_yo

@Hennes This is actually memory? That big?! Woah...

Hennes

then DIMMs (either SDRAM in most PCs or EDO in MACs)

Boris_yo

@Hennes You have CompTIA certification man?

Hennes

Nope. No cenrtification whatsoever

Just a few decades of experience

Boris_yo

Or CompCIA :D

Hennes

10:15

Hmm, I actually had this card in my 386sx-16Mhz so I could play sounds (PC came without sound)

ebay.co.uk/itm/…

Boris_yo

@Hennes Can you upload your experience to my brain please? That would be huge leverage and save me time and hassles of obtaining knowledge.

Hennes

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Right click, inspect element, remove element.

Bob

@Tom phone

Tom Wijsman

Buy a better phone!

Hennes

10:16

Notice the 40 pins 'IDE' connector on the sound card.

Bob

I do that on desktop.

Hennes

I think it needed its own driver, and was slow.
But it allowed you to use two harddrives on the motherboards (single) IDE bus and move the CDROM to the soundcard

Bob

@Hennes argh trying to get sound working under DOS (games, what else)

Hennes

DosBox rocks

But having a littl ebackground as to why you manaully want to set IRQ's and DMA is helpful

Bob

shudder

was too young at the time :P

Boris_yo

10:19

@Bob I don't remember loading sound drivers in DOS. I remember each game had setup.exe where you could choose your sound card from lost of known sound cards. You had to set DMA, IRQ etc...

Hennes

I remember getting a piece of paper. Writing down which cards supported which IO addresses, which IRQs and which DMA's. Then solve it so each card could have its own set without overlap.

Bob

@Boris setup.exe? on DOS? snicker

Boris_yo

@Bob Yes, configuration setup. You could configure sound, video card, modem etc.

Hennes

mom.exe and magic.exe (one was the game Master of magic , one was the setup file. Also woe if you have too much memory, it would not run.

Boris_yo

Hey do you remember old games that would run fine on 486, 586 IBMs but fly on hyperdrive to such extent you could not play if you played them on modern Pentiums?

Example? Hyper Race or something game where you had to race on your space ship. Lol I remeber starting round and in 3-5 secondws it ended. Everything on screen was running at 1000FPS. 3 laps in 3-5 seconds.

Bob

10:25

turbo mode...

Boris_yo

I think it was in sync of your processor's speed.

Michael Frank

My first PC had a turbo mode.

Bob

Also, the crt unit in turbopascal

Boris_yo

@Bob Yes, it was like turbo mode. But you did not need to choose "Turbo Mode" anywhere. Turbo mode was something that would occur on its own when playing on high-end PCs.

Michael Frank

Well, the first PC I claimed as my own.

I also discovered disk compression and was amazed that I could fit more stuff on it!

Bob

10:27

@boris the purpose of having turbo was to allow you to slow the system down for legacy programs

Boris_yo

@Bob Was it special button on chassis?

Bob

I.e. the act of disabling turbo

Boris_yo

@MichaelFrank Yeah me too discovered what I can do with ZIP. Then I discovered ARJ compresion which was even more powerful and started to compress the heck out of what I could.

@Bob I did not know much about it at time and thus could not play some games. But there was always 2 games that ran fine on any compter: Shadow Warrior, Doom, Duke Nukem, Hexen, Heretic.

Bob

zip? try arc.

Boris_yo

@Bob What about ARJ?

Sim City 2000 was my first strategy game! Then came Red Alert 1 and Carmageddon.

Dang, these memories are my nostalgie. I cherish them. I also had PS1 at that time and played Tekken 2.

Bob

10:37

I believe arc was before zip and arj

Boris_yo

@Bob But if it was that good, it probably took a lot of time to compress and decompress?

Windows 7 tells me that it cannot read many files from source disk and there are many files. I think many files are corrupted and I wonder if it is because of corrupted FAT structure or bad sectors. Running scandisk would take day for results.

Hennes

I remember being impressed by sim city on the Amiga. It supported multiple desktops.

I used to open the screen with the graphs, then drag it down so it only covered the lower part of the main screen.

(An Amiga allowed you to drag the 'desktop' in the same way as a the windows.

And you could have different resolutions and different colour depths on different screens

But display those different screens at the same time

Boris_yo

@Hennes Seems like pioneer for modern economic strategies?

Sim City 1 was it right?

Hennes

Aye. The original :)

Boris_yo

@Hennes After playing Sim City 2000 and seeing original, I dislike it probably because of higher standards that Sim City 2000 showed me.

Hennes

10:50

SC1 was fun. But I would have loved more screen realestate

Boris_yo

@Hennes Cold caller just called again so I told that I decided I am not interested and hung up. I think I learned the lesson where bottom line is to take initiative and hang up. Otherwise not hanging up, tells the cold caller that you are open and still show interest.

Hennes

I tend to fake interest .

uh huh

That is interesting

And what was your name again?

Where did you go to school?

What did you study

Which one didyou like best

DO you mind a stranger asking all those questions? CLICK

Boris_yo

@Hennes Stranger? What of it was survey company? Does that still make them stranger?

Hennes

If they are cold calling me and asking me things like 'who is your electrical provider' Did you know we can do it cheaper, etc etc. Then yes.

Boris_yo

@Hennes But then you ask who are you that offer me cheaper variant?

Hennes

10:56

No, I try to get personal.

Boris_yo

@Hennes To get personal? What do you mean? You ask the name of cold caller?

Hennes

Name, place she want to study, what she studied, which hair colour she has, what eye colour (most get nicely uncomfortable at this stage), ...

Boris_yo

Okay I get you. You kind of let cold caller be in your place and ask if cold caller would mind be asked all these questions?

Hennes

My goal was to let her hang up on me. :)

Boris_yo

@Hennes Ah you made it a boiler room for cold caller? Or grilling cold caller?

"What did you prepare today for lunch"?
"I prepared soup with onion and beef and garlic etc."
"Sir, how is that relevant to all this"?
"Just wanted to know if you like preparing soups and how if you do..."
"By the way I gone to shopping mall and bought 1KG of vinnies..."
"Sir, can we stay on topic please?"
"Yes but only if you tell me what is your diet and what do you prepare every day."

Gowtham

11:11

hmm tempted to get this dx.com/p/…

has anyone cloned sim cards before?

Boris_yo

@Gowtham No but I wanted one so I can fast edit contacts on SIM card because through the phone it would take more time.

Why you want exactly this one? There are many on DX while this has small number of reviews.

Bob

@Boris_yo before, not better than

Boris_yo

10 ways to deal with cold call pests

louderthanwar.com/10-ways-to-deal-with-cold-call-pests

Bob

@Hennes Or resort to "your mum" jokes? :P

The irony of a budgeting program during a Steam sale...

Gowtham

11:29

@boris_yo something like t that one :-P

se chat needs an android app

Journeyman Geek

11:59

lol

they need to fix mobile chat annoyances ;p

Boris_yo

12:16

I heard from someone here that Vista now has additional SP1 updates that no longer make it bad OS.

Journeyman Geek

I heard the same thing

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek So you plan to revert back to Vista?

Journeyman Geek

naw

why rely on backports when you can get the updates upstream? ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek What is backport?

Journeyman Geek

means that they do updates for a newer version on an older version

Boris_yo

12:25

@JourneymanGeek Do you know why they removed sidebar like it was available on Vista from Windows 7?

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: nope

Bob

12:44

@Boris_yo "Platform Update"

it's not SP1

it was after SP1

Journeyman Geek

13:33

hmm

one of the printer ink refill squeezies went empty

which is yay

since for some reason I have three sets of ink

Boris_yo

@Bob Platform Update is something bigger than service pack?

How can you burn bootable image of OS to USB flash drive? Is this possible?

Oliver Salzburg

@Boris_yo Don't burn your USB drives. You will regret it later!

Journeyman Geek

I'm not sure about vista

for 7 and 8, there's something called the windows 7 usb download tool

Boris_yo

13:59

@OliverSalzburg Burn? Why am I allowed to burn CDs DVDs but not USB drives?

Yes I actually recall there was something. But I am aware of tools that allow to write images to USB flash drives, at least trial versions.

But logically you cannot burn USB flash drives because this will reformat them, correct? I mean if image is bootable and is 3.2GB then this is the capacity that will be on USB flash drive. You can't place image of 3.2GB on 16GB USB flash drive and still retain its full 16GB capacity. Image will not work correctly or work at all.

Journeyman Geek

er it will

it will reformat and make the drive bootable and copy over the relevant files

not do a dd style image

Boris_yo

@OliverSalzburg Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Comet ISON is expected to pass near earth on August 2013! It will be so bright that you will be able to see it in the broad daylight!

@JourneymanGeek You mean USB flash drive will retain its 16GB capacity, yet have this image on it and it will work okay?

Journeyman Geek

yeah

but anything on it will get deleted

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek You aware of tool that can do that?

Journeyman Geek

for vista, no

I've never installed or run vista

Boris_yo

14:08

@JourneymanGeek For Windows 7 then? You mean tool that works in Windows 7, yeah?

Journeyman Geek

yes

microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/html/…

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Know this method?

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Journeyman Geek

yup

Boris_yo

14:22

1st laptop - 1.5GB of RAM for Vista
2nd laptop - 2GB of RAM for Vista

Is 2GB minimum?

Journeyman Geek

no idea

I've never run vista

tapped-out

while 1 gig is the "minimum" you really want 2

Journeyman Geek

ram is like money, you want as much as you can, and you never want to run out ;p

@tapped-out: superuser.com/a/619653/10165 <- its GDDR5 and GDDR seems to be a different beast from regular ram.

and the real, politically incorrect answer is "PUT DOWN THE SCREWDRIVER, AND STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER"

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Listen how Futurama sounds in russian: adultmult.ru/html/futurama_715.html

Journeyman Geek

why? ;p

Boris_yo

14:37

@JourneymanGeek Heh I don't know... We spoke about Futurama previously and I just wondered if it is broadcasted in Singapore or you watch it online somewhere?

Journeyman Geek

nope

I've never watched futurama ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek And you don't want to?

Journeyman Geek

lol

so many TV shows, not enough time ;p

WH13 just wrapped up, and watching continuum

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek I think most US TV shows are broadcasted in Singapore?

Journeyman Geek

oh, they are

just easier to watch them at my own pace

Boris_yo

14:40

I see now how America wants to grow their entertainment empire to dumb down the rest of earth's population... Sad. They even show some of it here but I never watch.

I want to retain my critical thinking in order to not become part of sheeple, I want to stay logical, self-sufficient person.

lol Clippy heh...

*It looks like you're trying to retain your critical thinking in order to not become part of sheeple, you want to stay logical, self-sufficient person.

Would you like help?*

Journeyman Geek

lol

Boris_yo

At least Clippy is on my side!

Journeyman Geek

shrug

Continuum isn't american ;)

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Still THEY own most of media...

Journeyman Geek

shrug

so?

Boris_yo

14:43

They own out money, they own us!

@wek Hello. Questions sir?

@JourneymanGeek Weird but in Control Panel I have noticed settings for Tablet PC. I also detected there is related service running. Why would I need those?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

Boris_yo

@abdelsaid Hello?

Journeyman Geek

Beats me

Boris_yo

Weird how people arrive and leave this place without saying a thing...

Journeyman Geek

lol

You obviously scared them off

wek

14:46

@Boris_yo:Thanks for asking for that. I wass just to see chat as I got previledge now to chat.But here is my link to question superuser.com/questions/619635/…

Boris_yo

They are not acting on behalf their own interests. I think they bear government interests.

Journeyman Geek

@wek: we don't normally link our own questions here

;p

Boris_yo

But if we do...

;)

... we prefer them without links.

Journeyman Geek

@wek: maybe its not in the repos

wek

@JourneymanGeek Ohh sorry for that but I am really fed up asking

Journeyman Geek

14:48

try messing with apt-cache search ?

wek

Ok one more time

Journeyman Geek

apt-cache search (thing)

Boris_yo

Apparently I am not the go-to person when question involves Linux...

Journeyman Geek

in this case I'd try mozilla I think

wek

apt-cache search mozilla gave some result , but I dont know what to do with that

Journeyman Geek

14:51

could you pastebin the output?

wek

ok

Journeyman Geek

(don't post it here, it makes the chatroom messy)

wek

pastebin.com/um3zvMZ7

Journeyman Geek

apt-cache search basically lets you search through the whole list of packages - it gives you a package name and description

hmm

nothing useful there

wek

ok

Journeyman Geek

14:53

how about apt-cache search iceweasel ?

Boris_yo

I think changing hard drive mode from AHCI to IDE causes Windows to crash on boot.

Journeyman Geek

(that list is packagename - description - you can use apt-get install to install those packages)

I'd also probably look at my sources.list, but I'm unfamiliar with kali linux

wek

only one result

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: oh, that seems likelt

wek

libmozjs18d - Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScript library

Journeyman Geek

14:55

@wek: ok, for some wierd reason, you just don't have iceweasel in your repository

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Dang, I think AHCI is slower than IDE... And changing it assumes OS reinstall... Gulp.

Journeyman Geek

@wek: next thing to do is to compare your sources.list to a pristine copy

wek

and how to do that

Journeyman Geek

it should be at /etc/apt/source.list

well, boot up the distro on a livecd, see what it has, then check it against what you have installed

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