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A: Is the "English" in the name of this site an adjective of noun?

Fraser OrrThe word "English" can be both an adjective (as in the "English football team") or a noun meaning either the people of England or the language spoken there. "The English often drink tea at 4pm." "He speaks English very well." In this case it refers to the English language. The specific usage here...

In "English Usage" (if English means language, not English-style), it is a proper noun. But in "English language" it is an adjective. How the same word can be a noun and an adjective IN THE SAME SENTENCE?
@Anixx- English is the ADJECTIVE while Language and Usage are NOUNS.
@user66974 If "English" is an adjective in "English usage" as well, then it means an English-style usage, but of what? If it means English language, it is a proper noun.
Of the English Language.
@user66974 English-style usage of English language? English usage of English?
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I guess you are joking!!!
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"English" has to be an adjective in "English Language" and a noun in "English Usage", which makes the ellipsis impossible. This title is apparently a flawed construction, as surprising it might be.
It is perfectly possible for a word to have both a different meaning in the same sentence. If I say "I bank at the bank on the bank" the first word, a verb, means "engaging in activity at a financial institution", the second, a noun, means "a financial institution", and the third, a noun, means "the land at the side of a river." English can be confusing. As I mentioned in my answer, "English" can be an adjective or a noun depending on the context. Click the link and check out the dictionary definition.
The title is not a flawed construction. "English Usage" is two nouns in apposition. Click the link in my answer for more detail. Consider, since I am talking about banks, the phrase "bank vault". Both "bank" and "vault" are nouns, and here used in apposition to mean "the vault of the bank". It is a fairly common construction in English (and many other languages too.)
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The only way to conceive this is as "English language & usage (thereof)".
@FraserOrr you have 3 similar words in that sentence, with different meanings. In the title of this site "English" is encountered only once. It is either an adjective or noun.
@LPH or "English language and its usage"
Red apples and pears can describe apples of red and pears of red, too. The one adjective applies to both. And yes there are red pears.
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@YosefBaskin yes. But one word cannot be an adjective and a noun at the same time.
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I'm not sure why you've linked to an article about apposition when this clearly isn't one. Commas set off appositives; appositives and noun adjectives are different.
In our title, 'English' is an adjective. One adjective applies to both nouns. If you don't understand, no one is offended, as we are trying to help you with a language we love.
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@Anixx As a choice for a formal title the parenthesis and/or the adverb would not do, agreed.
@YosefBaskin what is "English usage" with "English" being an adjective? Some kind of lifestyle of English gentlemen?
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@YosefBaskin The idea here is that there seems to be a "distribution" of "English" through ellipsis; but the word starts as an adjective on the first noun phrase and ends up as a noun on the second. There is some sort of short circuit in the mind of the reader.
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@LPH every time I see this title, my mind is blown. Prevuously, following this example, the Russian language site was called "Russian language and usage" but later it was renamed as "ungrammatical name". It seems, the name of this site is the only remaining ungrammatical name on the network.
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@Anixx I felt as you do about it: very uncertain. You confirm that something is not right, unless we both miss a point in this aspect of English grammar.
Where are the mods? This is bloat.
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@YosefBaskin Do you think that in the occurrences of the term in the following page, the word "English" is an adjective? google.com/…
@Cascabel I see nothing abnormal here, mere discussion and people, all, for the time being have been saying what they thought was the truth. Not all will be right in the end, that is all.
@LPH As long as you are deleting the bloat the next day, no problem. Bloat is undesirable on this site. If there is a real discussion, it should go to Chat. The comment section was never designed for "discussion".

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