I will also add - all characters are - after character creation - going to get 2 extra things beyond all that superhero stuff

I think my character does have a mount... maybe a magus with more strategy and less firepower?

one will be a special background bonus

is "strategy" a type of gunpowder

and then HERO POINTS

What is Astrid's class?

A magus is interesting option

Hm, for race... a kitsune might be an interesting option, except I don't like that it's an anthropomorphic fox

Kitsunes have nine-tails and are full on foxes, fight me

hehe - so you should look back at my comments on races :)

Harumph, none of the classes are really vibing with my character

Also - I did a quick check and Traceless Operator is an Inquisitor Archetype that covers tracks and things

Hm

I lost the oracle one...

Oh Intrigue as a mystery gets you some disguising things, charm type things, "desire sight" so you can tell what people want, a kind of web of rumours type thing

Oooh, interesting

I'm leaning very heavily towards a spellcaster build

Yup, definitely a spellcaster of some sort

Probably with a mount because now I can't get that imagery out of my head :P

Are there any spellcasters specialized in terrain spells/barrier spells?

well - mounts can come without having anything specifically inherent to them

(like you would get from a paladin or cavalier)

Right

you are a noble, you can afford a mount ;p

I don't think the character has any special feats with a mount, unless it's running away

I still kind of like the teamwork feat :P

what's it like having money :p

Sorcerors have magic inherently within them, right?

yep

Sorcerer have some kind of magical being in their family tree

they have a "Bloodline"

Hm, that might work? I don't know though

Doesn't vibe with the strategist in me :P

In terms of schools of magic, I've boiled down to Abjuration, Conjuration, Divination, or Illusion

Illusion might be interesting tactically

Meh, although sorceror kind of makes sense, I don't like it

i must run to the grocery store, i expect North to be min-maxing when i return :P

Nah, I actually won't be min-maxing

Well, I don't know enough to min-max quite yet

I'm actually trying to do character building!

character building! :D

Current idea for my character: Mounted rider that shoots mostly defensive spells and a couple of aggressive spells, focuses heavily on terrain control and field advantage, and plans out attacks before engaging

Battlefield control is the main key

Barrier spells, movement spells, terrain spells, etc

Maybe some debuffs

Maybe bard? Hm? Idk

Meh

Maybe summoner..?

Wait what is bobble's character class?

Wizard

Ah, nice

I have an orphan boy wizard with a rat

sigh looks like y'all need a tank

:P

depends ;p

Oooh, arcanist looks really interesting

Except now I'm looking at team balance and well

though reluctant paladin is a nice trope ;p

We have squishy boy, gay pirate, and a noble

Make a dual class paladin rogue ;p

Can I make a dual class at level 1?

well there is a way i can do that but ;p

Well, i don't really want to be a paladin

Okay, actually swashbucklers are decently tanky with a d10 hit dice

you also don't have to fight head-to-head with anyone ;p

if you take an intrigue character as well...

What's an intrigue?

well stealth and heists and ambushes and plotting

then you have a street rat mage, a swashbuckling pirate, a rogueling goblin and someone else who isn't about going in head-to-head...

a very "from the shadows" storyline

Hm, clerics have a lot of domains

I don't like the idea of my character being devoted to a deity though

Ah - did you see my explanation of deities? :)

Not really

They are a bit different in my world... in that there is a Pantheon that everyone pretty much recognises as the only deities. They embody a creation myth in which the Sun and the Moon got together and formed the Earth and the Water, who in turn created Life (and Death), and from them sentient beings were formed who have ideals like Justice and Tyranny.

Ah

But each of these deities isn't (usually) worshipped as a whole. Each one has "Aspects" which are named ... versions?... of the deities.

Hm, interesting

Idk if my character is religious though

(I'm mostly saving the cleric stuff for another DnD campaign, a light Cleric Aasimar. So want to avoid clerics for now :P)

You can see why I'm not going blasting

So Pelor is the Good God of the Sun and Healing and such. Cryth is the Evil God of Fire and Destruction... though they are also the same being... sort of. Argue with your local cleric.

Sure, just saying that this is a weird thing in the world ;p

sigh I want a tankier arcanist, maybe?

It does become weirder with say Ehlonna / Nerull ... because they are effectively the same being! A Goddess of Life and God of Death rolled into one...

If you were a Summoner you could play chess against the eldion (or however it's spelled)

Hm, maybe

My $0.02

I've been looking at summoner

Must leave for a bit now

@bobble o/ tailhugs

Magus seems cool too, except a little too... blast-y for me?

What's a shifter?

There are also some "deities" that are weird and more like "greater beings" than deities.

Uhm - I think most of the advantages of shifter wouldn't be what you want. They are basically the partial changing versions of druids.

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's boring

Okay, I basically want a cavalier, except they cast spells. :P

You're not going to let me get a flying mount, are you?

Probably not straight away ;p

Drat

but there's no reason to never have one

But I want a pegasus D:

level 1 is level 1 ;p

Fair

I still don't know which spellcasting class to take

you don't get all your toys at the beginning otherwise what are you playing for? :P

Fair, fair

I'm lowkey kind of liking magus, though kind of strays away from the tactician-esque vibe

But seems so cool ;-; mounted magus

I gotta go, but if you have any ideas for an arcanist + cavlier build, I'd love to hear it

Alternatively, I might go with the mounted magus idea :P

I will work on it when I can pay more attention :)

(I feel like I have some more things in my books somewhere)

trumpet

I introduce to you... Prince Lynn Hikari

A+ refined snob

You see, he is superior to most people - both in intellect and in status

So he wouldn't have helped Tifer sneak into nobleman's lessons?

He might have

Maybe he and Tifer are friends? I need more information on Tifer

Describe Tifer to me

Well learning to read would have been before becoming a wizard (because you need to be able to read to read spellbooks)

Hm, what would make Lynn like Tifer?

Also, although Lynn is a snob, he's not obnoxious

(You kind of can't be to be a good prince :P)

Tifer could have challenged Lynn to a chess match :D

Hm...

I imagine he would have spent time watching people, could have learned chess from that

Maybe Tifer tried to steal from an obnoxious noble that Lynn detests

At that age, Tifer would have been pickpocketing for some of the time, but also watching other people a lot.

Would still have had street bud

Lynn catches Tifer trying to steal

"What are you doing?"

"Uh, um"

"Look, if you're going to steal, you need to do it right"

casts mage hand

you know mage hand?

Lynn is a spellcaster for sure. I just don't know what kind

So yes

An arcane one, apparently :)

It would make sense for Lynn to sneak Tifer into some of his lessons :P

Would Lynn have gone into poor-people's area, or Tifer to rich-people's area?

The easiest way to your hidey-hole skirts the rich-people's area

So either way ;p

@bobble I think Tifer to rich-people area

Oooh I have a funny story

Lynn has to go to a rich-people party but he's bored out of his mind

He sees Tifer and his buddy trying to steal stuff but gets caught by the guards

Does Lynn have rich-people friends?

@bobble Not many. He's more of a reader

Because Lynn is bored, he tells the guards that Tifer and his buddy are his servants and that he'll punish them

@bobble only because I think that whomever owns the tower library has at least some money

Instead of punishing them, Lynn tells the two exactly which nobles to pickpocket and the best way to do so :P

Names needed: for Tifer's bud and for Tifer's rat

bud is female

Note that Lynn only helped out not because he was altruistic, but because he was bored

Tifer thanks to Lynn in a genuine way, not the forced-polite-manners way that Lynn's used to.

Lynn shrugs and casts mage hand to undo a noblewoman's hair into a frazzled mess

Tifer giggles

"So, where you from?" Lynn has successfully unbraided the noblewoman's hair and now is moving onto her friend. "I don't know why you would willingly come to this torture." Lynn yawns.

shrugs "Rich people parties have good food"

"Pfft, the food here? The cooks at my place are way better." Lynn digs through his robe and takes out some pieces of chocolate he smuggled and offers some to Tifer and his buddy. "My parents say this'll make me fat, but so far so good."

Tifer goggles "How much does that cost? They don't have anything like that at the public market-place - not unattended, at least"

Lynn looks completely unfazed. "I have no clue. The cooks make them - a lot of other kinds of sweets, too."

(I think Lynn is an arcanist :D)

Lae?

you mean Lynn?

Why do your characters start with L?

Yes, sorry, confusing my characters

@bobble I have no clue, it just became this way

"Tifer" started as "Waif" and then I was hungry so I thought of "Wafer" and messed with the spelling to make it more fantasy

@bobble Bwahaha

Lynn is born with magic, but also is obsessed with refining and learning more

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Tifer makes a half-mocking, half-serious bow. "I'm Tifer, please to meet the kind rich boy."

Lynn snorts. "I'm not much for kindness. I was bored. I'm Prince Lynn."

"Does kind Prince Lynn know where one could, um, learn to read?" (note if it matters: Lynn is ~7 or 8 at this point I think)

(Oh, we're that young?)

Well I need enough time for Tifer to learn to read and the to learn magic

could age him up a bit?

Since Tifer's like late teens for Campaign I think

because must be smol child for Pirate Dad

Oh, I thought Lynn was like 16

Lynn can be 7 or 8, sure

Lynn can be older than Tifer, that still works

Take on the little street kid as your project

Hm, Lynn can be 10

I think that works fine

Or maybe 16, I'm not sure

Some undetermined aged, we'll figure it out :P

How old is Tifer when he meets Lynn?

However, Tifer got short genes so looks younger than his true age

Hehe

between 7-8 (Tifer is not sure exactly how old he is)

Ah. Hm...

bud is about the same age

Lynn is probably like 10? That might make sense

Am I messing up your plans >.>

Nah

Well, a little bit

Should Lynn be 10 or 12? What do you think?

Again, the reason why I assume Tifer is young at this point is it takes a while to learn to read and a longer while to learn to do magic off books

Right. I'm just trying to decide how old Lynn should be

I assume they've been friends before plot happens

I'm counting on Lynn to make sure Tifer is good and literate

Lynn can be like 12

"Sure, I can help you sneak into my lesson I guess. It's pretty boring though for most people, are you sure?"

(by the way bud has been snacking on chocolate the whole time)

(no problem lol)

"I want to learn! Not sure - you're going to make yourself sick, Bina - not sure if Bina wants to, but if I never learn to read I can't do as much.

have named bud Bina

Lynn raises his eyebrows. "You're more enthusiastic than all these other bums in my class." Lynn ponders for a little bit. "The classes I attend are pretty advanced as is, but I can probably help you sneak into the introductory tutors before I let you sneak into my lessons. I might have some beginner books as well."

(Yes, Lynn is a prodigy. Deal with it)

"I can, um, write my name. Convinced another kid to show me how. Not anything else, though. And can't read."

("Prince" is going to be awkward... unless it is a title also used for other noble families but not the current royal family... let me think)

@Graylocke (Oh, is it? Shoot)

(Well, he's not like the current royal. Maybe he's from uh another line?)

(Sure - I am sure we can work that out - in the family of the current royals but not in (immediate) line for the throne?

(Yeah, that could definitely work)

(some cousin-ing involved somewhere

(Actually, I was thinking that there were several royal families, but only one is in power at a time)

(There's a book series that uses that concept but I forgot which book)

(Kind of like different "multiple houses?")

(Yeah - there are a series of noble families in this world though not all of them are... considered noble... at any point in history ^^;

(There are families that have basically been booted out or have come back in or whatever... as various monarchs make life difficult for everyone who isn't a noble to keep track of wth is going on

(So, can Lynn still be called Prince?)

(A part of what your father probably refers to as The Game

(Sure

(cool, that's all that matters :P)

(though it is why you are expected to understand games of strategy... it is meant to be practice for games of noble backstabbing and keeping your family in the ranks...

(that makes a lot of sense)

(though Lynn may be more or less bored of that as a thing cause... who cares about everyone else if you are already winning?

(but that is up to you entirely :P

@Graylocke Hehe

Lynn: "Please, all these nobles are idiots."

There are also some important people who are seemingly outside the noble system.

Though Lynn feels that fighting is beneath him

He prefers not to get his hands dirty

There is the Archmage who is basically an advisor to the King.

There is the Lady of the Isle, who is just mysterious

Thus, most of his spells are abjuration, illusion, a lot of conjuration, and divination

What perks do I get for being a noble?

Also the Duke of Rend, who is the noble who rules the (arguably larger) city of Rend that sits in the centre of the nation.

Mostly social ones ;p I'll put in some of that into a background feat for you.

I need to read your worldbuilt world :P

@Graylocke Lol, okay :P

It will have mostly upsides!

The only real trouble with being a noble is when you are alone in a less nice part of town ...

Ah, yeah....

Oh... and the other families.

Lynn has spells don't worry

But they are all stupid anyway.

:P

Duh

Inferior in intellect and in general

And Lynn has a waif friend so

It's like being famous really.

Tifer can show Lynn around some of the more obscure and interesting places in the back-holes of the city

Gray, did you see my explanation of Tifer's name?

from Waif? :)

hehe

I have the best names

This party is going to be the brat pack, I can tell.

with a Pirate Dad!

:)

yeah I have a suspicion that the other title is King Brat.

:P

from observation and examples of pirate dadding ;p

How does Lynn meet Pirate Dad?

Uhhhh what the heck

Not all spells are necessarily available.

Please check with your universe if the spell is not in the PHB ;p

I need the PHB list :P

Oh, is it the same as 5e?

With... same effects?

Spells should be marked as PHB spells >.>;

So just to confirm, Lynn is canonically 12 and Tifer is 7-8?

Because this means Pirate Dad gets to adopt BOTH of you

no, that's when they meet

aww

@Sciborg Lynn is not getting adopted by pirate dad

I'm not sure when Pirate Dad meets Tifer

but..... but pirate dad needs to adopt EVERYONE

pirate dad has a compulsive collecting disorder... thank goodness pokemon hasn't come out in this universe

@Graylocke gotta adopt 'em alllllll

God, Lynn is going to go crazy :P

this is going to be such a chaotic mess of a party and i can't wait

and then we have the goblin who eats people, to top all this off

who i believe pirate dad will not be adopting...

but goblins are cute, they swear

by which I mean, they swear

What does Pirate Dad think of rat with glowy eyes?

If Lynn were to take a school of magic, what would it be?

Valerio has seen many a mouse and bilge rat in his day, he'd probably think it was adorable

Is Lynn going to be a wizard now?

Dear GODS why ping me in the Lair

sorry this is just annoying me

@Graylocke oh, never mind. I thought there was a variation on stuff

You don't really need to limit yourself unless you are a wizard :)

and limit => focus

I can absolutely picture Lynn and Valerio not getting off on a good foot, since Valerio grew up quite poor

How bright is the glow from the rat's eyes?

and spoiled snobby rich kid would definitely hit him wrong

Can it be used as a Rat-Flashlight?

Or is it dim and only noticeable if you look right at it?

@bobble lol - I hope not... you don't want to be seen do you?

though I am imagining if you have Light the spell, you can make the rat-flashlight

Gonna go to sleep, I'll crank out more of my character

it's just a cantrip from memory

"Mijo, don't take me for a rusty old anchor here, but what on earth are you talking about"

coaxes rat out of pocket, casts Light "See, a Rat-Light"

"...ah yes" quietly wondering if adoption decision was slightly rash

do you have an idea for rat's name?

if you don't name it Lumos i will be very disappointed :p

Lumra?

oooh

Nice name...

I think that means the rat is female

So I have a question... are you happier for the rat to talk telepathically... or for you to get kind of pictures and feelings back from Lumra?

Pictures ad feelings

Yeah - I just noticed that that is the L1 bond anyway - empathic link.

i picture Valerio giving Lumra a little head pet when he thinks Tifer isn't looking

"who's a good mousey, you are, pequeñita"

Lumra is more... forward than Tifer

A bit more reckless

Ooh how does Lumra say her name... a little glowing star?

Works for me!

Hmmm.. and what does she call you? ^^; Sorry I am sidetracking >.>;

A little tangled nest - Lumra likes burying in Tifer's hair (Tifer has very scruffy, curly hair)

aww <3

Tifer also has a bunch of patched-on pockets for holding things

^^

So much cuteness

where does Tifer sleep usually? does he have a little nook somewhere in the city?

I imagine he procured an attic of some building that's generally abandoned at night - museum, government building, suchlike.

Alternatively, a less-travelled cranny of the tunnel system

it would be really pure if Valerio found him sleeping in an alleyway/building somewhere and brought him in to give him a warm place to sleep

Dadding would ensue

How long do rats need to sleep?

better a Pirate Dad than one of the workhouses

uhm - I guess on your schedule :)

though they probably also prefer night time

When does Pirate Dad meet Tifer? So far his backstory timeline is: meets Lynn, learns to read, Bina dies, starts to sneak into library. During which period?

Should I worry about Archetypes?

Probably after the library-sneaking, since that time-space would presumably be where the plot starts

i just imagine him seeing this small kid curled up in an alleyway and he heads over to make sure you're okay. "are you out here by yourself, pequeñita? come in and have some cocoa, you will freeze to death"

small kid curled up in an alleyway with a small rat curled up on his head

very important detail

important information

and if Tifer doesn't move he just puts his coat on him and sets a mug of cocoa by him and tiptoes away

Tifer may have a few boltholes of relative safety

oh, and very big grin and tinkly giggle

is any of this useful? :P

for future Doodles, yes :P

:D

Oh - question...

Actually - I have an awesome PLAN

nvm :P

what PLAN?

that's.... concerning :p

(side note, while editing, I typed Tifer as Tiger twice -.-;)

Nono - nothing terrible

Valerio basically looks like the Doodle i made, with a strong Dominican look/accent and a right-eye eyepatch which he claims to have lost in a heroic fashion. definitely.

curls up and sighs

Lumra looks like a regular gray rat except for the glowy eyes

why the sigh? :(

floofer is best floofer and has no reason to be sad

other things, not the nice peeps tailhugs and smiles

we would like to take this time to make a public service announcement that Gray is the best

nomcats > cats

<.<;

@Sciborg 🥺

you eat people, Blort

👺

Pirate Dad fully supports freedom and expression but draws the line at cannibalism

Only counts as cannibalism if you eat your own species

It definitely depends on your definition of "people"

angry dad noises

what's you parrot's name, by the way?

and will parrot be mean to Lumra?

in a 4th wall breaking way, Lumra can be like "well at least I have stats!"

quote from... ?

The parrot's name is Ellie - he saved her from some orcish poachers who were going to sell her to a circus because of her mimicry talents, and now he lets her fly around free because he feels bad that she spent her whole life in a cage. She's usually flying around somewhere above his head demanding treats.

I have no idea why that appeared