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1:25 AM

Okay I think I see what you are saying amazon.com/Pack-Ethernet-Phone-Female-Adapter/dp/B08T7V12DC/…

Journeyman Geek

1:50 AM

@William uh I mean you've been spitballing theory over 3 days 😅

Without a lot of the fundamental knowledge that's needed. We're happy to share things but... I feel like the practical knowledge to do what you're trying to do is lacking

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Q: What would be the disadvantages of using a 4 stranded ethernet cable?

I got this cable with a homeplug AV 200 device - its labelled cat 5e But looking at the plug end has me rather dubious about it. (There's only 4 strands there, not the standard 8 - and missing pins, so I suspect these cables are designed to do so. The wire jacket is also surprisingly loose)....

networking ethernet

@William That page though... So many contradictory statements!

Journeyman Geek

oh god so cursed

and no

that's meant to connect a phone line phone to ethernet :D

so you can use existing ethernet cabling for phones

What you need is even more cursed

2:07 AM

@JourneymanGeek For some reason, I seem to remember being told you can't do IPv6 on 10mbps connections... I'm wondering if that's something you ran into

Journeyman Geek

@CanadianLuke .....

Yes

I don't understand why

Larger header requiring a larger packet size? Or it just expects a faster cable

Journeyman Geek

@CanadianLuke different layers. Shouldn't care

My theory is that 4 wired cables are just cursed.

I agree

Even in 2014 standards

Journeyman Geek

lol

I upgraded to 'gigabit' capable homeplug (that gets me 300mbps) at some point

nothing better since from what I can tell

2:10 AM

But, to go with Ohm's Law, we must double the number of copper wires every few years... So I'm going to run 16-pin Ethernet cables :P

Journeyman Geek

@CanadianLuke naw, actually better shelding

you can go up to 10 gigabit with cat 5 over short distances

I got the kit but there's no really compelling use cases for someone at home

Assuming you have a good switch that handles 10g. That'll be my next major purchase, I think. At this point, I have a bunch of thin clients

Journeyman Geek

I have a few suggestions

Plex and streaming

Journeyman Geek

I have a unifi one that's about 300ish, and does 4 ports

If I was doing it now and might pick up a SFP capable 8 port switch off aliexpress and put in a mix of tranceievers

2:12 AM

Is there any licensing with Ubiquity stuff? I got caught with Meraki wanting licensing to continue working

Journeyman Geek

probably adds up to the same cost per post

@CanadianLuke naw

need a controller for initial setup but no licencing

Good. I think licensing network equipment is stupid

The controller can be a docker image I heard, too?

Journeyman Geek

yup

I'm still not sure how the new network setup will be

Right now, I got 3 servers running (one is only for NFS, no other software installed). I'd love for them to have 10g connections between each other. I got two of them in a bond with the switch

Journeyman Geek

ah so

I've not tested it, but I was looking at aliexpress.com/item/1005004031586434.html

a flex XG is a decent option too if you're going full copper (1 1gbe switch + 4 10G switches POE powerable)

I have one of those, its nice

What're you looking at for the NICs?

2:19 AM

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This is why I don't trust AliExpress anymore

Journeyman Geek

ah lol

they're standard power supplies

Ideally, I want to try fiber... But not until I get a proper rack, cause I don't want to be unplugging and replugging constantly like I am now

Journeyman Geek

ah

that's actually a little cheaper

and you can use DAC cables

The wife and I moved into a new house last December, and we're still getting renos done, but very slowly. Networking can wait, I got Wi-Fi :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Still waiting on my new place

2:21 AM

Is it picked out yet? Or still saving up?

Journeyman Geek

uhhhh

Yes, yes, but it got delayed by covid

Ahhh that sucks :(

Journeyman Geek

so I got the money, I know where it is and what's the rough layout

but none of the more important details

Are you building it?

Journeyman Geek

uh

Public housing

2:22 AM

What's that?

Journeyman Geek

so the government is paying someone to :D

Oh cool!

Journeyman Geek

@CanadianLuke most housing here is flats built by the government

I booked it... 2019ish

was supposed to be finished... now... but it got delayed up to a year past that

My Small Living Space 《BTO 2 Room Type 2 - 45sqm, 2022》

Its a very similar layout to this

I didn't know that. Our government is building housing, but far from allowing anyone to customize it

Journeyman Geek

Oh, its not customised

even less than the one I linked

2:27 AM

That still looks pretty nice

I gotta run though

Journeyman Geek

This is a previous 'version' so they have TV connections (which I'd have to price out at replacing with MOCA)

and from what I was told 4 ethernet connections 2 in the living room, one in the bedroom and one in the little shelter

seeya :D

11 hours later…

1:50 PM

@JourneymanGeek really? I thought cat 5e was 1 Gbps and cat 6 is 10Gbps (max length 50 meters)

cat 6a is 10Gbps over the full 100m

Journeyman Geek

@Michael for small lengths cat 5e does 10Gbps fine

oh that's cool

Journeyman Geek

I have actual 10 gig gear and tested it

(wanted to use up a flexi spending allowance before I quit :D )

I was benchmarking tho

I don't actually have anything that could max it out :D

2 hours later…

3:50 PM

"Picture a better more compaq projector, every director would catch an erector with that picture. A close encounter of the word kind. War of the shush." - erb, 2023
"Hush little babe E, don't you cry a word. Mama's gonna be your mocking bird" - erb, 2024
... [see more]

"backups? where we're going, we don't need backups" - bttf, 2015

erb24 != eminem (slim shady)

3 hours later…

6:55 PM

I'm studying for the Network+ CompTIA exam, and they didn't say anything about that.

1 hour later…

8:22 PM

@Michael That's cause it's not "supported" by CompTIA. I just got my Net+, it was pretty easy

@Nick Is ERB still making videos? The last one I saw was a year ago, as far as I remember

@CanadianLuke I believe that thy are still alive. I was listening to Albert E. v. Steffin Hawking sine the day I grew tor .. the day I survived .. since the day I was born.

@JourneymanGeek Buy digit. Buy chip. See Alpha. See Omega. Send me list.

It came out in 2011... I hope you're older than 13 on Stack Exchange

@CanadianLuke I believed in reincarnation.

I was a Buddhist in my previous life. Then, I moved to K-Pax. {these are confabulations}

@CanadianLuke Please sell me teenchat.com and the gTLD can be anything. I just want. Want is a two letter word. Va and ENT.

* !gTLD ... I meant to say TLD, like .om

USSD is a b word.

moving this stream to the Sandbox (Room#1)

Please save WinterTulip

....

I wasn't called for moderation.

I'm letting her cry here.

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Sh tried to trick me into thinking she was Katy Perry.

3 mins ago, by Nick

moving this stream to the Sandbox (Room#1)

bye

skadoosh

8:46 PM

blinks

@bertieb lifehacker.com/watch-star-wars-in-text-via-telnet-373571

I seen't it

a long time ago, appropriately enough

@bertieb RR, Roadrash, rest and relaxation #nick #gilmore #NickGilmore

ISTR another one

I think it was redone in colour for those connecting via IPv6

though I could be mistaken

@bertieb It was probably redone in blood for those in the cyberverse.

8:52 PM

> Well, the IPv6 version is exactly the same as the IPv4 one.

welp

it sure showed me

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@bertieb Are you on a bike rn?

negative, I am a meat popsicle

@bertieb outdoors or indoors?

> Imagine all the kids who wanted to view star wars in color, only to setup their tunnel and discover it was a joke. I bet a bunch of those tunnels stayed established long past the attempt to view towel.blinkenlights.nl and led to a bit of a bump in v6 traffic.

ahh, just how I (kinda) nearly remembered it

thumbs.gfycat.com/BlackUniformAnt-mobile.mp4

@bertieb my girfriend's cat says you're on mobile.

*afk*

9:00 PM

@Nick I was more of a super hang-on guy than road rash

@bertieb *back* ... reduce *afk* to *brb*

9:45 PM

'reduce' is terminology classified into category 611a

Journeyman Geek

@Nick uh.. make sense please. I half swear the scrollback is nonsensical stream of conciousness

Today's search engines are: Yahoo, Google , Bing , Duck, Dog and Nivea (Neeva)

@JourneymanGeek i will

Tell me what you want, mod. (I am mo)

Journeyman Geek

I did. The kickings will continue until sense is made .

1 hour later…

11:00 PM

@JourneymanGeek Sorry, I was just browsing my mind. Now, I'm browsing the internet.

Here's something you can assist with.

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@bertieb "super hang-on" is a bike racing trainer with lots of interesting graphics and redos over the years. Yes, I am also trying to make sense of the current situation.

@allpresent

Super Hang-On Longplay (Arcade) [60 FPS]

@bertieb yum, sausages

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