@JourneymanGeek I ended up pulling it out and switching to integrated video
as rebooting didn't bring video output back at all
(I finally settled on rebooting the machine)
also, the hub of the video card's fan is still quite hot to the touch -- seems consistent with a card that just gave up the ghost after a long, hard, hot life, no?
@JourneymanGeek well, I have a spare card (GF9800GTX+ that was retired for driver-support/driver-stability reasons on a box running the blob). let me see what nouveau's support looks like for it
so if that card a) has survived its stay in my junkbox and b) can be physically fit into the machine in question, then I suppose it's worth a shot if the integrated graphics aren't suitable for my workload
It's okay to keep some old PC parts, but they serve no useful purpose past some point. For example, we have a couple of old, small electromechanical hard drives (250 GB and 160 GB) which I don't have any valid use cases for because I have an unused 500 GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO (and matching USB 3.1 Gen 2 enclosure) on my desk.
Father's desktop has a 1 TB hard drive which was disconnected but never removed from the system because the hard drive cage is a PITA to work with.
(the optical drive has to be disconnected and removed before anything can be done on the drive cage or motherboard, and the cables are attached in such a way that they're hard to manipulate; some compromises were obviously made to keep this system compact and inexpensive)
@JourneymanGeek Does this mean that the only (desktop) machine you have in service is Nyx, or did that go?
We went prebuilt a few months back with Father's new desktop. Cheap HP Pavilion with a Raven Ridge chip, added a 250 GB NVMe SSD to massively boost performance while keeping things cheap.
there's Habu, my first PC build and also the longtime family desktop, and also a bit of a Ship of Thesus (it's seen a new MB, CPU, RAM, HDD, and GPU since it was first built)
Astaroth, my first fully-custom PC, is my pride and joy. It was built back in October 2017, just in time for the release of Assassin's Creed Origins, with specs targeting the (extremely demanding) Final Fantasy XV Windows Edition. pcpartpicker.com/user/FieryDragonLord/saved/pRCqsY
@JourneymanGeek Habu's guts are of various vintages, the original build is ~10years old now, although all that remains from it are the console devices (keyboard/mouse/monitor), the optical drive, the case, the PSU, and maybe the soundcard?
My main laptop is named Stolas; it's a 2018-model HP ENVY x360 13 with a Ryzen 7 2700U and 256 GB SSD.
Also, got a cheap netbook Bifrons with a dog-slow Celeron N3350 and just 2 GB of RAM. Wound up installing openSUSE on it, using an external SSD on the USB 3.0 port as swap.
(that system has 64 GB of eMMC storage, which is pretty slow as well and has questionable NAND endurance)
@Shalvenay I actually had the Dell 530 in the current case...
Did a full build, Monitor was replaced (single then dual 4k), swapped GPU (sold my old gf660 for a 980), went from a Samsung 830(went into my old laptop to a 840 pro....
Toying with maxing out the ram and running esxi or kvm, but a bit concerned I've lost sound output and a sata port so far....
i3-530 on whatever cheap mobo HP used (a MSI apparently, according to dmidecode), 16GB of RAM, GPU in a state of flux :P, and a 1TB primary hard drive -- there's also an old laptop drive that rattles loose inside the cage as a "salvage" drive. I need to copy the data off of it...
Sager (Clevo ODMed) N155SD obtained through a local supplier, 15" display, i7-4720 CPU, 16GB RAM, 120GB? SSD + 1TB HDD (it's the only box of mine that has a SSD in it), nVidia GPU (can't recall what it is though)
it also has the honor of being my only FDE machine, which makes it...one of the finickier beasts I've used
AdoredTV. The performance is there. The efficiency and noise levels are not.
> The note I had written was, "Too loud, unplayable".
Fans spinning at 2930 RPM is not okay. While Astaroth does get a bit loud under load, the graphics card fans typically run below 2000 RPM, and typically somewhere in the ballpark of 1500 RPM in Assassin's Creed Odyssey (heavily dependent on ambient temperature).
It helps that I've spent a fair amount of time replacing case fans and optimizing case fan curves so I can leave the CPU and GPU fan curves at their defaults, while achieving very reasonable noise levels and consistently low operating temperatures.
@Shalvenay Is the fan clogged up? Make sure you don't have anything physically blocking the fan's movement. You may want to take a compressed-gas duster to clean it out.
@Shalvenay What caused it to overheat in the first place? Why wasn't the fan spinning earlier?
As for fan noise on my desktop... yes, I can force the graphics card to run at an unacceptably high noise level. At 100% fan speed on all three fans on my EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Elite, I get some 53 dBA at ~3200 RPM.
@Shalvenay Most graphics cards of this sort use sleeve bearing fans and they don't last very long at very high sustained speeds. Bearing failure is a very likely cause of the issues you had.
Is the cooler open-air (exhausts heat into the case), or does it use a centrifugal impeller (blows heat through the back of the card and out of the case)?
Single fan open-air cooler. Air is drawn from beneath the fan (in a conventional case layout), pushed up through the heatsink, and exhausted through the sides and into the case.
I'm pretty sure that's a sleeve bearing fan. These things do not last very long at high speeds.
The fans on my EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti are double ball bearing. That makes them a bit noisier from the start, but are far more reliable under continuous usage.
Multiple fans mean that the fans can run slower, leading to lower noise levels while also providing better cooling. While lower-end cards still often use one fan, more powerful graphics cards often use two or three fans in an open-air configuration.
Most reference graphics card designs (until very recently) use centrifugal fans that extract heat right out of the case. These are great for tight spaces and GPU arrays (SLI/CrossFire), but tend to run very loud.
(by "reference", that means the baseline card design used by NVIDIA or AMD itself rather than the custom designs typically used by AIB partners; the reference design is often preferred by PC OEMs in prebuilt machines because the fact that they exhaust out of the case rather than into it simplifies thermal design and reduces the need for additional case fans)
An open-air cooler relies on additional case airflow to properly cool itself, because heat is exhausted back into the case. There is a reason I replaced all the case fans in my desktop and spent quite a bit of time in the UEFI setup tuning the fan curves...
This was the issue I had with Astaroth before I replaced the crappy stock rear exhaust fan with an industrial-grade Noctua fan that ran twice as fast, with fan curves adjusted accordingly. It's a trade-off: less GPU heat is getting pushed through the radiator, so the rad fans run quieter and the CPU temps are lower, but the rear case fan in turn runs louder.
> The note I had written was, "Too loud, unplayable". So that's how I feel about noise. This is killing the immersion for me. I mean, sure, I could wear a headset, but what if I'd rather not? You can't enjoy the game audio with such an awful racket nearby.
@bwDraco I wish AMD could match Nvidia watt for watt in the GPU space... they have a die shrunk GPU that still can't beat the 2080 Ti while using the same or more power :/
that they can't shows me that Nvidia is still doing some clever optimizations that AMD hasn't figured out yet, or they're designing their GPUs a bit suboptimally
> AMD has a large amount of indebtedness which could adversely affect its financial position and prevent it from implementing its strategy or fulfilling its contractual obligations
And...
> Intel Corporation’s dominance of the microprocessor market and its aggressive business practices may limit AMD’s ability to compete effectively
AMD simply does not have the money to develop niche or specialized devices like NVIDIA's tensor cores or DRIVE PX modules, let alone get a custom semiconductor fabrication process to manufacture a chip as large as GV100.
So... your thoughts on AMD Radeon VII and the future of Radeon GPUs? Despite rapid growth, there is no getting around the fact that they are competing directly and simultaneously with two companies with a combined market cap 15 times that of AMD's.
You get the idea. AMD simply does not have the money to compete on level ground with both Intel and NVIDIA simultaneously. Something has to give.
@Hennes Nixon established the EPA and the Office of Management and Budget. Not a saint by any stretch, but he did start us down the path to standardizing all states on certain national issues (or global issues) like air quality. Sadly whenever the EPA is under the thumb of a Republican president, its job is basically "do nothing".
Presidents have historically been involved in policy a lot. They direct Government employees (including civilians and the military) to act lawfully and in accordance with the country's current domestic and foreign policies.
As long as they aren't acting unlawfully they don't have to ask Congress for every little thing
the President's cabinet does a lot in terms of setting current policy stances
and the executive branch is about 50% of the power in terms of the national budget.
FDR significantly expanded the power of the President, but he used it for good, to get the US out of the depression, and get us involved in WW2... but FDR is basically the origination of Presidential "emergency powers"
Other Presidents since then have slowly expanded Presidential powers along the same vein, and nowadays if they invoke the right "emergencies" they can basically do what a dictator would do
it's unfortunate that we needed to give more power to a President in the first place, but it was probably necessary to get things moving in time to prevent further expansion of the Third Reich or Japanese strikes on US soil
and that set a precedent that is now being exploited in non-emergencies
@DavidPostill No, it's not. It's something to be debated in politics, but it's basically status quo for a very long time and there are both positive and negative aspects of what's happening. Besides that, the effectiveness of the wall (even once completed) in actually preventing these things from happening is very debatable, as boats and planes still exist, for example, and drug cartels are well known for operating planes without transponders and doing drug traffic that way.
And the "wall" that's proposed to be built right now is only covering a small part of the US/Mexico border, so people can literally just walk/drive around it. Won't be long before there are bus services to go from wherever people are in Mexico to destinations west or east of the wall and resume the (illegal) business as usual.
Even if the wall were 100% effective and could stop planes and boats and covered the entire land border completely (a series of assumptions I do not accept), they siphoned funds away from existing anti-drug policing efforts to fund the wall, so they're at least for several years making the problem worse until the wall is in place.
@Hennes In our presidential system, head of state and head of government are one and the same.
The claim that there is an "invasion" is what really irks me. We are not in a state of war with Mexico or Central American countries or any terrorists originating there, and the so-called "war on drugs" is not related to any actual military attack against the United States.
(opinions my own, not representative of any organization I work for)
Even if Trump did not literally mean a military invasion, he's framing it as such in order to justify the emergency declaration. It's not a military issue.
And this is not a new national security risk. It's an ongoing issue, not an emergency.
Drug smuggling into the United States is not a military event. It is a criminal event.
Can we please keep politics discussions to a minimum?
Due to the extreme political viewpoints of some people in today’s society, having a viewpoint that doesn’t agree with a vocal minority can make that person extremely uncomfortable. Since they will be attacked for having a difference in opinion
I really want to respond to that border discussion but my viewpoints are shaped by my personal experiences
experiences that are extremely hard to describe in text.
The President is the head of state but they are NOT the head of the government. We have three branches of government for a reason. President’s power ultimately is extremely (normally) very limited.
If their power has been extended that is due to the legislative branch allowing it or specifically granting it.
Maybe. Not comfy with too much polical chat on this channel
Though I will say that Brexit is a disaster (for *all* sides), That trump is ununderstandable to most non US people And that we (EU+US alliance) are loosing the edge
This problem happens with a locally compiled version of emacs.
The solution to this uncommon behavior would be to uninstall emacs,
search and delete all emacs folders and files, then re-install from the repository.
Such a lousy answer
Doesn't tell you how you could compile to not have the issue
Doesn't even tell you what exactly causes the issue
This problem happens with a locally compiled version of emacs.
The solution to this uncommon behavior would be to uninstall emacs,
search and delete all emacs folders and files, then re-install from the repository.
