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12:46 AM
@jokerdino I think the recommended way is to do it ourselves. Hence tcw
 
1:34 AM
An M3U8 is a link to an audio file. You can't download a video from an audio link.
 
 
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3:41 AM
I could not find the corresponding entry for 'Hit:2 packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable InRelease' in the sources.list
If a repo isn't in the sources.list, why does apt-get update list that in it's output?
 
@RogUE it's probably in one of the files in sources.list.d
 
@GDPR Thanks mate, that's it. There's a file named vscode.list in there.
 
4:41 AM
VSCode runs on Linux... Cool, never thought they would@
 
@CanadianLuke My coworker uses it, he tells me to ditch Atom in its favor
 
4:55 AM
Ooohhhh, I got some Linux fans that I may need to entice... Lol
 
VSCode is really nothing at all like Visual Studio for Windows though; it's a lot closer to a plain text editor with limited language support (but decent enough for .NET Core C#)
 
Never tried C#
Anyways, off to bed
 
 
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7:57 AM
@ADHDCat I don't think it's only a link to an audio file, I think it can also be a link to a video file. The link I gave is premised on downloading an MP4 file from an M3U8 link.
@ADHDCat Also, I used the utility M3U8X to generate an M38U file, and it successfully generated an MP4 file that plays, but for some reason it has no audio.
 
8:21 AM
Never mind, I got it to play with sound after playing around with the M38UX program's options.
 
 
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Bob
12:24 PM
Another day, another PC build for a friend. @bwDraco, which Ryzen would be the equivalent of an i5-8400 or i5-8600/K?
 
12:54 PM
@Bob Ryzen 7 2700X or Ryzen 5 2600X, I think
Or the non-X variants with a very gentle overclock
 
1:41 PM
@KeshavSrinivasan The letters M3U literally mean audio file link. MP3 URL. The 8 on the end just means it's UTF-8 encoded. If the URL isn't for an MP3, it's not an MP3 URL, and therefore not an M3U8.
If it's an MP4 URL, then it's a M4U not an M3U!
 
@ADHDCat M3U was originally designed for MP3 playlists, but in practice you can put any format your media player understands in it, including video files
Go ahead and try it with Winamp or VLC.
 
@ToxicFrog "Any format your media player understands" or the users? That's the problem with breaking standards, and once it's not standard, it breaks the point of having a standard.
 
@ADHDCat "your" as in "the person loading the M3U", and if the player doesn't understand a given file, it doesn't (or at least, shouldn't) render the whole m3u invalid.
That said, normative statements like "shouldn't" are tricky here because M3U is not a standard. It's a de facto understanding of a playlist format originally used by winplay3 and extended by winamp in the 90s.
 
@ToxicFrog That's the problem with breaking standards. A standard M3U that contains only MP3 URLs will be understood universally by any player that understands M3Us. Put anything else in and it becomes "expected behaviour varies by application". Which frankly is the same principle as, though not as strong, as naming a .zip file .rar
 
Bob
@ToxicFrog Thanks.
 
1:54 PM
My point is there is no "standard m3u". There's a format widely understood as "m3u" which most players mostly agree on based on the historical behaviour of Winamp. And that format is "a list of absolute or local file paths and/or URLs, with optional length, artist, and title information"
And even winamp absolutely did not require that the contents of the M3U exclusively be MP3s.
 
@Bob Define equivalent?
 
Bob
@ADHDCat Is a list of URLs an audio file? (semantics, I know...)
@ADHDCat Eh... ~perf equiv for mostly gaming use.
 
The behaviour when an entry in the M3U is "invalid" -- whether because it's a format the player doesn't understand, or because the URL can't be fetched, or because the file has been moved or deleted, or because the contents are corrupt -- is entirely implementation-dependent.
Most players just skip invalid entries and keep playing the ones they understand, but nothing guarantees this.
 
@Bob There isn't, Intel's lowest end still beats any Ryzen in most gaming metrics.
Mostly due to the Core architecture still having substantially better IPC
 
Bob
@ADHDCat Yea, we're only looking for something approximate since he's mostly playing old-ish games anyway.
He'll probably go with Intel anyway but it's good to know the options.
 
2:01 PM
@Bob That makes the IPC differential even worse. Even the i3-8350K beats the top Ryzen.
 
Bob
@ADHDCat Ya, but with something like Witcher 3, would you even notice?
 
Really you ought to be asking which gives similar overall performance (which is something AMD can compete on) or which gives similar gaming performance per dollar (which again is something AMD can compete on).
@Bob You probably wouldn't notice the difference between the slowest i3 and the fastest i7 nor the slowest Ryzen vs the fastest i7 in reality.
Heck, you wouldn't notice the difference between an i7 8700K and an FX 8350.
But when All current Intel CPUs > All current AMD CPUs in gaming performance, there is no overlap between the two and no equivalents.
 
Bob
@ADHDCat Ok, now that one I don't quite believe :P
 
@Bob I'll extend that to a Phenom X4 980.
 
Bob
I wouldn't spec gaming on pre-Ryzen AMD :\
 
2:10 PM
@Bob Once again, my point exactly.
 
Bob
Huh. Now I'm told the idea is in 5 years he might be playing ~2017-2018 AAA games.
Eh, probably won't change the buying decision much, on the CPU side.
 
will he be upgrading in 5 years too?
if so, get a ~4yr old cpu
 
Bob
lol
 
(An FX 8350 does a minimum of 77 FPS in Witcher 3 when it's not totally GPU bottlenecked, a Phenom x4 980 does 62 FPS minimum, an i5-2500K an 83 FPS minimum, a Ryzen 1500X about 100 FPS, A Ryzen 2700X about 130 FPS, and an i7-8700K about 150 FPS)
 
an i5-2500K an 83 FPS minimum, a Ryzen 1500X about 100 FPS, A Ryzen 2700X about 130 FPS
that's a overlap, isn't it?
 
2:24 PM
If your minimum framerate is over 60 FPS, which it is on the Phenom II x4 980 and the FX 8350, then you basically won't notice any difference.
 
/me so confuse now.
 
18 mins ago, by ADHD Cat
But when All current Intel CPUs > All current AMD CPUs in gaming performance, there is no overlap between the two and no equivalents.
@djsmiley2k I said current. The i5-2500k is a 2011 CPU.
 
oh right
so my 'buy one that's 4 yrs old' is valid? :D
 
So anyway, @Bob. Any current CPU from either manufacturer will basically run older games at a minimum of around 100 FPS, which is far higher than the 60Hz found on nearly all non-specialist gaming monitors, so just get whatever either has the best overall perf per dollar, or the fastest thing within his budget. The latter also being the best option since it'll not be worse than anything else he can buy when it comes to 2017 AAA games in 5 years time.
@Bob Most 2017/2018 AAA games will be GPU bottlenecked on all current processors from AMD and Intel as well. Slowest Ryzen will do 60-120 FPS minimum framerates in things like Battlefield 1, Civ VI, Shadow of Mordor, Dawn of War III, Far Cry Primal, Tomb Raider II etc.
There's only one or two games that are CPU bottlenecked below 60FPS minimum, and those are the annoying CPU-hungry ones that made me upgrade to Skylake.
 
Bob
@ADHDCat Yea, it's not a particularly important decision.
 
2:39 PM
tl;dr, if "What do you want it to do" is satisfied by "every choice available", the decision comes down to what's the best you can get within a given budget.
And unfortunately for me, budget restraint isn't something I'm good at
Pines over his £6000 total original cost "Mid-range" PC build rusting away in a storage unit somewhere, not being used for nearly two years
 
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@Bob I'd say Ryzen 5 2600.
@ADHDCat lol, Astaroth cost us less than that and it runs every game I have at or near maximum settings at 1440p.
The Ryzen 5 2600 performs slightly worse the i5-8400 in single-threaded tasks but is a bit faster in highly threaded tasks as it has the extra SMT threads the Intel part doesn't have.
For higher clock frequencies, get the X version.
At 1440p, this difference is minimal to nil. At 1080p and below, the Intel chip's higher IPC matters more, but it's still a very small difference.
@Bob Agreed. Anything before the Ryzen generation is pretty much crap.
 
3:05 PM
@ADHDCat I'll pay you £40 to ship it to me, so I can use it until you're ready to
 
3:23 PM
For pure gaming workloads, Intel is generally the better option.
 
Bob
@bwDraco He went for the 8600K
with a 1080p screen, and a view to a possible 1440p upgrade in a few years
 
The 8600K is going to be faster for gaming.
 
@ADHDCat Well, here's the link I used to generate an MP4 file: noviprepack.akamaized.net/videos/bb2/master.m3u8
 
3:46 PM
hurrah! i fixed the heights of my screens finally
 
@KeshavSrinivasan That's a M3U8 file that's a list of M3U8 files that's a list of .ts files. No wonder you're having problems downloading it.
 
Bob
@Burgi using old books, right?
 
@Bob nah, brute force and jiggling
 
TS files which can, as in this case, contain AVC video but are not MP4 files.
@djsmiley2k Uhhh
In its current state it's only worth like £400
 
4:13 PM
awww
 
I got manflu :/
Headache, runny nose, cough, and temperature
 
4:28 PM
@DavidPostill ginger beer!
 
4:43 PM
@djsmiley2k blackcurrent lemsip! :)
 
that'll do i guess
 
it's helping (albeit slowly) ...
 
 
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6:00 PM
 
6:40 PM
I have like so many extensions for privacy and tracker-blocking and stuff, and I'm not sure which ones I should keep:
Privacy Badger
DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials
uBlock Origin
HTTPS everywhere
 
@djsmiley2k These are always fun to watch!
@rahuldottech Most of my co-workers on our IT support team are only utilizing one extension: either Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin, and then adjusting the internal settings to their preference. Everyone seems to be rather happy with the end result.
 
@Run5k Well, uBlock doesn't have the HTTPS everywhere feature afaik, and Privacy Badger is the best for blocking cookies from trackers on the go, DuckDuckGo I mostly use as a search engine but the extension also rates the privacy practices of websites I visit and also enforces HTTPS where the HTTPS everywhere extension plugin misses out
Adblock Plus is crappy now
And I find it amazing how uBlock origin is managed and developed by a single person and the whole thing is open source and he doesn't even accept donations!
 
@rahuldottech Of course there is a healthy amount of subjectivity in that entire scenario, but it sounds like you made a rather convincing case to keep all of them! ;-)
 
@Run5k yeah, haha
 
7:06 PM
 
interesting... just discovered that wolfenstein and fallout are in the same universe
 
lol
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Q: How to connect 1 million devices over Layer 3 IP-protocol

Ventures JoeI have an IOT device is as big as a USB stick. I am building a datacenter for 1 million IOT devices. Each datacenter is a large room with 100 server racks. Each server rack will contact 10,000 devices. I have full design control of the IOT hardware design - MCU/MPU, firmware, and so on. I need t...

 
7:24 PM
> I do not want to use Ethernet inside each server rack because it would require too much cabling. I think I can connected them all onto PCBs and communicate at IP layer 3.
 
What can somebody want a datacentre for 1 million IOT devices for?
 
That's... ridiculous. He wants a network, without using... network cabling...?
 
@rahuldottech Well a million cables is a lot of cables ...
 
I mean, I guess it can be done [citation needed], but if this guy's best idea is " I think I can connected them all onto PCBs and communicate at IP layer 3", he's probably not best suited for this task
@DavidPostill You're gonna have to connect them somehow, either by using cables, or by using wireless tech
 
> I am OK with designing and building my own PCB circuits/FPGA for the switches, routers, etc , whatever is necessary.
I wonder if he is making a IoT bitcoin miner?
 
7:29 PM
@DavidPostill He's basically going to be using good ol' network tech, only using PCBs instead of cables
@DavidPostill Instead of investing in ONE MILLION IoT devices, just investing in dedicated mining tech would be WAYYYYYYYYYYY better
And that also applies to stuff like renderfarms
So no idea what this dude is doing
 
> I can skip Layer 1 and Layer 2 (PHY and MAC), and use Layer-3 IP-protocol
So he needs TCP/IP without a hardware layer :)
 
@DavidPostill he's going to redesign and redefine all the protocols?
 
Looks like it.
 
@DavidPostill Then... what exactly is he asking us?
 
So much birthday sushi... 🍣
 
7:35 PM
@rahuldottech No idea. But it's all off-topic anyway.
 
@DavidPostill you are being "paged" within this question:
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Q: Activating spare key from laptop

FredI ran ProduKey on my hp laptop and two product keys were found one was called ,'Windows 10 home' ,the other was called ,'windows(bios oem key') ,they both had different product keys. So my question is will I be able to use one of these keys on a custom PC build so I can get Windows for free? They...

 
note the nuka cola
 
8:53 PM
@DavidPostill Wait... people started to stay away from him because he was fired by accident?
That seems really bizarre. If I was accidentally fired by the system my co-workers would find it hilarious.
 
@MichaelFrank I found that weird too
 
9:31 PM
:<
 
10:20 PM
OMG GUYS so I just realized exactly how well I can type without looking at the keyboard because at the moment I'm sitting in the dark and I don't have a backlit keyboard and yet I am typing so fast at like my regular speed without looking down like HOT DAMN !
 
Bob
11:15 PM
Huh. Someone was unhappy last night.
3
A bit of a coward too, I see. Hit the questions only, obviously didn't want to take the -1s themselves from the answers.
 
Ha! Who did you piss off?!
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank I haven't a clue; I haven't touched the site in a week or two.
They've also gone and hit the SO questions. How adorable.
 
11:48 PM
!!caaaaaaat
 
@Bob asks questions? I thought he knew everything already
 

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