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12:00 AM
@Matthew some hardware won't boot without a video out of some sort.
 
jrh
... I'll have to check at work. My personal laptop only has 1 wifi card.
 
Bob
@jrh lol. that's more or less the opposite of my current situation :P
at work where I don't have wifi at all
I'll have the internal card + a usb one (if I can find it...) at home
@jrh I get the vague feeling I've done this before and it's worked
could be misremembering though
 
jrh
I have a feeling I've seen this work too, it might just have been right clicking on the adapter and connecting but I thought I tried that already, though what I might have tried was right clicking on the network in the wifi thing that pops up instead of right clicking on the adapter.
 
@JourneymanGeek so I wouldn't be able to utilize it as a server in some cases?
What would be some hardware that may have an issue?
 
12:05 AM
@Matthew in most cases if its consumer hardware
most servers come with some flavour of out of band management that allows it
 
@Bob Loading one page now uses up to 50% of my 4C/8T processor \o/
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek most consumer hardware doesn't care either :P
@bwDraco also if you're interested mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/09/21/…
 
@Bob heh, really?
 
Bob
oof, Safari is an outlier in number of DOM vulns found via fuzzing: googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2017/09/…
@JourneymanGeek all the ones I've ever tried, anyway
@JourneymanGeek wait is @Matthew talking about no graphics device at all?
 
Bob
12:12 AM
that's a rather rare setup
 
especially in this day and age
 
Bob
since with any mainstream Intel CPU you're guaranteed an iGPU
 
but say a ryzen or threadripper.... ;p
 
Bob
and AFAIK all older Intel CPUs have an on-mobo GPU
same with AMD
 
(Oh the irony!)
@Bob heh, my c2d does not.
 
12:14 AM
Firefox is still a bit of a power hog, despite improvements in recent versions.
(it used to be even worse, saturating entire processor cores for several seconds while rendering large pages)
 
Bob
huh, TIL Ryzen/AM4 boards have the ports but not the GPU
it's like the P67 fiasco all over again!
except in reverse?
 
@Bob There are A-Series APUs for AM4.
It also needs to support Raven Ridge.
The video output isn't just there for kicks and giggles.
 
Bob
@bwDraco it might as well be
hm. hetzner.com/storage-box @allquixotic
 
A budget build might pair this processor with a B350 motherboard for an inexpensive eSports gaming system, with room for overclocking and future upgrades.
 
Bob
"room for future upgrades" is mostly irrelevant these days
most people run their computers until they die or become absolutely unbearably slow
some people will upgrade every few years, usually as a whole box
fewer people will upgrade some parts
see where I'm going? :P
it might be useful to the subset of people that might visit this chatroom
but we're very much in the minority
 
12:30 AM
I have a very old eMachines desktop which had CPU, GPU, and PSU retrofitted.
(socket AM2, almost as old as Father's desktop)
 
Bob
and even then my last upgrade was for platform reasons: PCIe 3.0, DDR4, M.2, USB 3.1gen2... which generally implies both CPU and mobo get upgraded together
@bwDraco and what was the price comparison vs moving to a newer generation, keeping in mind that e.g. your old gen is stuck on DDR2?
 
Ten years young and still going!
@Bob IIRC about $80 for CPU and PSU. GPU (Radeon HD 7750) was a hand-me-down.
 
Bob
@bwDraco ang which year was that?
I bet more time and frustration has been wasted on slowness vs a proper upgrade
especially if you kept it on the original 2 GB of RAM
*shudder*
 
@Bob Don't have the specifics. The machine was Socket AM2 with a late-generation single-core K8 processor (Athlon 64 LE-1640).
Both systems originally shipped with 2 GB of RAM. An upgrade to 4 GB was previously installed on the eMachines system (which was called Cerberus IIRC), but the extra RAM was removed and placed in Father's desktop because I wasn't actively using it any more.
Fun fact about Cerberus: It was originally purchased solely to run Linux. I never even booted the stock Windows Vista Home Basic OS. I wiped the whole thing and put openSUSE on it.
To this day, it still has an openSUSE installation on it, but it's way out of date. I haven't turned the damn thing on in ages.
The system was originally $300 on Newegg. Just a basic, cheap system.
160 GB HDD (Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 IIRC), bottom-bin GeForce IGP.
The processor was replaced with an Athlon II X2 260 (2C/2T K10 @ 3.2 GHz; 65W). Socket AM3, but an AM3 processor works in an AM2 board. (The machine could not identify the processor, though, outputting "AMD Processor model unknown" during POST.)
 
I turned my old Win 7 desktop on the other day... Turns out I had turned it off while it was pending updates. It proceeded to spend the next 30 minutes "Preparing to update Windows"
 
Bob
12:44 AM
@bwDraco which year did you buy that
 
@Bob 2008
I don't know precisely when, though.
 
Bob
@bwDraco I mean the new CPU
 
@Bob I'm guessing Q3 2010. That processor was released on May 11, 2010 (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_X2_microprocessors)
 
Bob
@bwDraco that sounds odd, considering it was ~$65-$76 through 2012
 
Jan 14 at 1:02, by bwDraco
Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors#.22Regor.22_.28‌​C2.2FC3.2C_45_nm.2C_Dual-core.29, it's hard to believe that AMD released one last revision of that K10 chip (Athlon X2 280) as recently as 2013, operating at 3.6 GHz.
@Bob I might have misspoke on the CPU price. I think we spent ~$70?
 
Bob
12:49 AM
if you really got that and a PSU for $80, I'd be slightly worried about the PSU quality :P
 
Actually, the PSU was closer to $40 (and that was with a mail-in rebate).
(cheap Corsair 400W unit, replacing a generic 250W supply)
 
Bob
@bwDraco ah, thought you meant the two were $80 combined
 
Yeah. The details are very muddy.
 
Bob
that's not too bad then
that was around the time of Nehalem, IIRC
which means Sandy and Bulldozer were next year
 
As for Father's desktop... PSU (300W IIRC) and processor (K8, Athlon X2 5000+) are completely untouched. Graphics card has been replaced several times and is currently a GT 640 (Kepler GK208). Memory was upgraded to 4 GB.
We recently installed a retail copy of Windows 10 Home onto it.
This has got to be one of the oldest processors even capable of running Windows 10 in the first place.
Original 320 GB HDD is still on the system as well, with no SMART errors to my knowledge.
It's hard to believe that this system is still 100% fully operational after ten years of continuous service.
 
Bob
1:01 AM
@bwDraco uh... wrong era
 
Well, that was 2005, but the reputation lingered for several years after that.
 
Bob
IIRC capacitor plague was mostly early 2000s... they just mostly died around 2007 :P
so new machines around 2007 would've dodged the bullet
note to self: never try xz on large datasets
root@amaterasu:~# uptime
 03:05:16 up 49 days, 19:20,  4 users,  load average: 11.77, 7.91, 4.06
wait. 4 users?
 
(link to Dell system removed by mod on my request because service tags are associated with private information if I'm not mistaken – thanks, @Seth)
I implicitly trust the regulars here, though. I just don't want it publicly visible.
I don't mind publicly posting system specs.
 
1:27 AM
I am thankful I was not drinking anything when I read this meta.stackexchange.com/a/278583/135565
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek *opens link while sipping*
 
Votes are anonymous by design and "who-voted-on-what" data is protected by the Stack Exchange Privacy Policy. Please don't scrape that data. — bwDraco 1 min ago
in Ask a Super User Moderator, Jul 19 '16 at 2:27, by bwDraco
Can't say who or on what posts. That's private information. Who votes on what is protected under the Privacy Policy.
 
Bob
wha
0
Q: please delete this one

Henryplease delete this one please delete this one

@bwDraco you do realise the post is a year old..? and that they're not scraping any private data?
 
@bwDraco you're taking it too seriously
 
Bob
at best they try to loosely guess by watching rep changes of other answers/comments on the page (note: requires the script to run continuously on a live page) and see whose rep drops. as the other answers imply, this is purely based on public data and rather inaccurate.
and two SE employees have responded already
@JourneymanGeek posted it here for us to laugh at the answer, not to berate the user ... over a post from last year -_-
 
1:33 AM
powershell. Macos. Whut?
> I am thankful I was not drinking anything when I read this
Implicitly indicates its funny
 
@Bob I may have been mistaken...
Jan 14 at 1:02, by bwDraco
Back to the eMachines desktop, it came with an Athlon 64 LE-1640 (single-core Orleans K8 @ 2.6 GHz). It was later replaced with an Athlon X2 270 (2C Regor K10 @ 3.4 GHz).
 
Bob
hm?
 
@bob yeah the Ryzen and such doesn't have graphics, but I am running it as a server, but if the hardware doesn't like it, then I have an issue. However, I do have some spare GPU lying around that I just found.
 
I mistakenly wrote Athlon X2 260.
That means the upgrade was in 2011.
 
Bob
@bwDraco ah, mid-2011... would've been competing with some of the newer Pentiums then :\
IIRC you could get a CPU + board for ~$100
=> cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1107&cmp[]=143 that would've been the 2011 comparison
 
1:46 AM
I could have technically put a Phenom II in the machine, but the board was designed for a max TDP of 89W. Remember that this is an AM2 board; AM3 processors just happen to be backwards-compatible. The VRM might not like it if I put a 95W or (gasp) a 125W processor in it.
 
tfw you Google for a solution to a problem you are having with some new software... and the only results that include your $product search term are from the official site. :S
 
 
2 hours later…
3:30 AM
> An improvised weapon includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin
 
Bob
lol
@JourneymanGeek that's limbism, that is
 
3:45 AM
So... my YouTube account is a Partner account. This means I am able to run ads and make money from my videos. However, I disabled monetization quite a while ago.
I haven't logged into AdSense in ages...
So, any ideas?
I'm just fiddling with the idea of re-enabling monetization and putting something up that can generate some ad revenue.
 
Bob
*shrug*
 
Fail videos
Twitch Fails
Reviews of MMA fights that don't include any footage.
Unboxing videos
Hitting your brand new "smashproof" phone with a hammer.
 
@MichaelFrank ...and this idea just came up. Perhaps I could show off Astaroth once it's built?
Problem is that... I'd have to deal with monitoring my AdSense account constantly.
Sep 3 '15 at 4:18, by DragonLord
Well, my biggest fear with running ads is sabotage: somebody intentionally generating an abnormal number of clicks in an attempt to shut down the AdSense account due to excessive invalid activity.
 
you don't
if they kick you off, it was happening anyway...
 
Awesome Sauce!!
Thought you might wanna see that profile name when you get a chance!
Crazy huh!!
 
4:00 AM
member for 4 years... Nice.
 
Pardon my etiquette if I handled that improperly too
Didn't mean to offend anyone
LOL just in case
 
Yeah, ugh, I'll have a word if he posts. I'm still recovering from the flu.
 
@JourneymanGeek Member for 4 years... Probably not gonna post?
 
probably.
 
Ooooooo..... Get well soon!!
How you like tagging that username!!
 
Bob
4:05 AM
@JourneymanGeek oof
 
I'm just gonna throw that on the mod chat and let someone else deal with it
 
4:29 AM
Hello to all!
 
Bob
4:51 AM
13
A: Will a magnetic flashlight attached to a metal junction box cause problems?

A. I. BreveleriShort answer: No. Long answer: Nnnooooooo. Serious answer: A permanent magnet, even one a thousand times stronger than the one holding your flashlight in place, placed near your home wiring but not moving has no effect on the circuit at all. A permanent magnet as small as the one holding your...

 
Bob
5:06 AM
ok
228GiB zfs send data including a number of Windows disk images
pigz => 137GiB in 0:25:39
lbzip2 => 134GiB in 0:59:15
gzip => 137GiB in 3:15:55
pixz => 124GiB in 3:18:43
I'm planning to store the backups on a service that charges $0.005/GB/month
so pixz would save about 6.5c per month
but it takes so long I think I'd rather pay and use pigz
 
6:00 AM
Apple lead security guy gives a bunch of tantalizing information to an audience of crackers
 
 
2 hours later…
Bob
7:34 AM
halp
...so, I have a ssh connection I need to copy a huge file through. Remote end only allows scp, sftp and rsync
 
throws @Bob a life preserver
and?
 
Bob
Unfortunately, the huge file is too huge to save to disk
 
Bob
so I'm trying to pipe it. except none of those commands take files from stdin.
so I'm trying to use a fifo pipe
except none of those commands seem to work with 'special' files
... soooooo I'm stuck?
 
no nc?
 
Bob
7:39 AM
@JourneymanGeek nope. easy solution would've been ssh cat but... yea
it's a C14 archive temp space so I'm fairly restricted
hm
lol. I'm not the first one...
3
Q: Coerce scp(1), sftp(1), or rsync(1) into transferring a named pipe

WitikoI intend to transfer full and incremental backups of my btrfs subvolumes to a tape archival service. The service exposes FTP and SSH endpoints. If I were allowed to execute arbitrary commands on the SSH endpoint, then I would do the following to perform an incremental backup: btrfs send -p $LAST...

> If you're stuck with shell scripting, it's possible to spoof enough of the SCP protocol to transfer a file.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
spoofing scp ... with bash?!
 
that is a rediculously good question
 
Bob
this man is insane
 
Bob
8:05 AM
@JourneymanGeek Plus side, I've solved it. And therefore solved that guy's problem too :D
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A: Coerce scp(1), sftp(1), or rsync(1) into transferring a named pipe

Boblftp 4.6.1 and newer should be able to do this: https://github.com/lavv17/lftp/issues/104 Unfortunately, the command suggested in the linked issue does not work, but a slightly-modified one does: lftp -p $port sftp://$user:$pass@$host -e "put /dev/stdin -o $filename" Due to a bug, you must pr...

 
morning
 
8:23 AM
guys
I have this mp3 file
Which has an infinite loop in it
I am not kidding
 
Bob
@BenN this guy should use powershell :P unix.stackexchange.com/questions/393694/…
 
And this is weirding me out
 
Bob
@rahuldottech ?
 
@Bob I'll upload it in a while
Play it on any Bluetooth speaker thingy or any mp3 player or an old phone
and it loops automatically
 
Bob
uh huh
 
8:27 AM
The seekbar shows 6:40/3:45
 
Bob
you do realise most players have this handy-dandy looping function? :P
 
@Bob Not that ^
 
audits are getting easier...
 
@Bob It doesn't stop playing even after the song is over. The seekbar shows it's complete, but instead of moving on to the next song, it repeats itself
 
8:55 AM
wtf is wrong with the world when the leader of North Korea is the one behaving rationally and measured and the PotUSA is the crazy one?
 
9:12 AM
@Burgi whaaa
 
basically thats him saying that he has reached his limit and if trump keeps up with the crazy talk NK will have no choice but to respond
 
@Burgi There was a time...
When the inverse would've been true
 
exactly
 
"...if NK keeps up with the crazy talk USA will have no choice but to respond..."
 
@tereško I was reading just that
 
Bob
10:17 AM
when your CPU bottlenecks before the disk...
 
@tereško fun stuff...
Gotta love the EU and their laws
 
@Solidak Actually better than the rest of the world in many ways
 
Netflix in Germany is worse than my grandfather's collection of Dirty Harry VCRs
@rahuldottech Totally agree. Health care and pretty much everything is better than east or west
IMHO
 
@Solidak How so? As in, worse quality, or worse catalog, or worse speed?
 
yanno what would be the best way to deal with crazy talk?
SANE TALK
"The nuclear program is too costly. We'll stop and spend the money on agricultural equipment"
 
10:29 AM
or firing trump
 
@Burgi Impeaching trump will be no good because the next few in line are equally bad, if not worse
 
@rahuldottech just worse catalog
@rahuldottech So there's this dude, Sam Harris, who made a podcast episode about that: samharris.org/podcast/item/the-path-to-impeachment
Not bad, actually
 
Bob
 
awwwww
 
Bob
10:53 AM
> Cigarettes are like squirrels: They're perfectly harmless unless you put one in your mouth and set it on fire.
 
Okay, quick question
How do you pronounce char, the data type? How do you say it aloud?
 
like when you burn something
 
@JourneymanGeek Like char in character or char in charcoal?
 
Oddly I pronounce the datatype char as I would charcoal, and not car
 
@JourneymanGeek I pronounce it as car because that's how my teacher pronounces it, and therefore so does everyone else in class...
 
11:07 AM
which is fine.
 
Bob
50
Q: How to pronounce the programmer's abbreviation "char"

Armen ԾիրունյանIn many programming languages, char is a type name for character values. The word character is pronounced with a [k] sound, but what about char? While trying to find the answer elsewhere, I learnt that there is an English word char which is pronounced [tʃɑ:(r)], but it has nothing to do with ch...

I've always pronounced it char, not car
if you started talking about cars in front of me I'd have no clue what you're on about
anyway. if you want someting prescriptive, Stroustrup says it should be char
if you want to follow what people around you say, then do that
well
I just pulled a dumb
I tried to verify my backup. the SHAs didn't match
my backups are piped through an AES CBC encryption step
so... downloaded backup from remote server and summed it. compared to running the whole command again. different?
yes, different. because CBC requires a unique IV, which is generated and saved as part of the encrypted data
 
@Bob if you're the only one saying char in a class of 35, it gets weird real quick
 
Just say what people around you say
then switch when people say something else
 
11:43 AM
What did the Indian kid say to his mother when he left for his first day of school? Mumbai.
 
@rahuldottech I don't get it
 
@Avery mum-bye
 
nice
 
Mumbai (; also known as Bombay, the official name until 1995) is the capital city of the Indian state of Maharashtra. It is the most populous city in India and the ninth most populous agglomeration in the world, with an estimated city population of 18.4 million. Along with the neighbouring regions of the Mumbai Metropolitan Region, it is one of the most populous urban regions in the world and the second most populous metropolitan area in India, with a population of 21.3 million as of 2016. Mumbai lies on the Konkan on the west coast of India and has a deep natural harbour. In 2008, Mumbai was named...
 
the city formerly known as prince bombay
Granted half the big cities changed their name ;p
 
11:59 AM
@JourneymanGeek half?
 
I'd say "all"
well, historically all.
 
New Delhi didn't ;p
 
yeah lol
 
In the last 20 or so years...
er.. hydrabad didn't?
 
Bombay -> Mumbai
Madras -> Chennai
Calcutta -> Kolkata
Bangalore -> Bengaluru
 
12:01 PM
oooh
 
@JourneymanGeek Oh, I didn't know that got renamed
 
random clickbaity list with unwanted notification request ahoy! scoopwhoop.com/news/whats-in-a-name/#.09nmz7xyt
scratch that
The renaming of cities in India started in 1947 following the end of the British imperial period. Several changes were politically controversial, and not all proposed changes were implemented. Each had to be approved by the central government in New Delhi. The renaming of states and territories in India has also taken place, but until recently with actual substantial name changes in both local language and in English such as the old British state name of Travancore-Cochin to Kerala (1956). The most notable recent exceptions are Indian English spelling-changes of Orissa to Odisha (March 2011) and...
Wikipedia to the rescue!
 
@JourneymanGeek Kanpur was Cawnpore? 0_0
 
> Porto Novo to Parangipettai
 
> Trivandrum to Thiruvananthapuram
I knew about this
 
12:07 PM
"New Port" to what basically translates literally to "Pumpkinville"
with Pumpkin being a derogatory term for white folk .-.
 
jrh
12:49 PM
@Bob Just tried it, on my work laptop strangely enough only the first wifi card in the adapters list offers a "connect" option.
 
Bob
@jrh hm. lemme ... find my usb adapter
@jrh worksforme
@jrh do you have that dropdown menu?
you select the adapter then connect to a network with that adapter
 
1:11 PM
I'm alive and hgome \o/
 
1:30 PM
@rahuldottech when did they rename bangalore?
 
hello all
 
@Burgi Bengaluru (Kannada: ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು), from Bangalore, respelled in 2007 [12]
 
i ran a chkdsk /f /x/ /r, based on this result, what should I do next to repair this? an sfc/scannow or a *Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth ?
 
@GwenKillerby this is the perfect question for the main site
 
takes too long
 
1:37 PM
Dosen't mean you should ask it here ;)
 
unlucky
 
Asking on the main site helps others with the same issue, and helps people get sweet sweet reputation.
Chat's for important things, like indian place names...
 
@JourneymanGeek seems like a backhanded way of making sure the people that own the sign making factories get rich
 
bang a lot?
 
@Burgi oh god. That's not the worst one.
 
1:38 PM
raw deal
 
that was probably a little too far, sorry
 
@burgi tit for tat relations are usually not the best
 
@GwenKillerby not there, they spend too much time coding.
@GwenKillerby we keep stuff worksafe here please, we have teenagers.
Consider that a warning.
 
i'm a tee!
can we say "sexual favors" or is that too risky
 
@Burgi basically the brits went around mangling indian placenames as they went around looting and pillaging vocabulary
Took a little whole post independance to work things out
 
1:42 PM
@JourneymanGeek well you guys should have had a flag ;)
 
@JourneymanGeek are you from Bangalore?
always confused that with Bangor, btw
 
Now the funniest one, which I can't find was a "Hamilton's Bridge" which was mispronounced "Abatan varavathi", and was then translated to "Barber's bridge"
 
> Total: £394.80 GBP
 
@GwenKillerby One's a dreary City you don't want to vacation in. The other's in the UK
 
@JourneymanGeek you should make a website of these names
 
1:43 PM
cost of domain renewals for a year >.<
 
@JourneymanGeek Bangor, Maine?
 
@GwenKillerby I linked wikipedia
 
@JourneymanGeek there are two cities called Bangor
 
@GwenKillerby OH.
Bangor (English: ; Welsh: [ˈbaŋɡɔr]) is a city in Gwynedd unitary authority, north west Wales, and one of the smallest cities in the United Kingdom. It is the oldest city in Wales. Historically in Caernarfonshire, it is a university city with a population of 18,808 at the 2011 census, including around 10,500 students at Bangor University and including Pentir community. It is one of only six places classed as a city in Wales, although it is only the 25th-largest urban area by population. According to the 2001 census, 46.6% of the non-student resident population speak Welsh, which is low for Gwynedd...
 
@JourneymanGeek pretty sure Stephen King will be surprised to learn he's been living in Wales this whole time! Does explain a lot, though.
 
1:44 PM
Oh yes, Steven King's from Bangor Maine yes?
 
Bangor (from Irish: Beannchar [ˈbʲaːn̪ˠəxaɾˠ]) is a large town in County Down, Northern Ireland. It is a seaside resort on the southern side of Belfast Lough and within the Belfast Metropolitan Area. In 2007 the town was voted by UTV viewers as the most desirable place to live in Northern Ireland. It functions as a commuter town for the Greater Belfast area, which it is linked to by the A2 road and a direct railway line, usually known as the Bangor Line. Bangor is situated 13.6 miles (22 km) east from the heart of Belfast, not far from George Best Belfast City Airport. Bangor is part of the North...
 
Which is the one that people joke about going holiday to @Burgi?
I'm not that british.
 
the welsh one
 
ah ok.
UNRELATEDLY
 
@JourneymanGeek how is bangalore a dreary place? it sounds exotic
 
1:45 PM
THIS LOOKS FANTASTIC.
@GwenKillerby so many better places!
 
@GwenKillerby its full of call centres
 
How about Exotic UDAGAMANGALAM!
 
@JourneymanGeek that sounds like someone choked on big pingpong balls
or gurgled with them
 
@GwenKillerby mercifully known as ooty.
 
outfit of the year?
 
1:48 PM
@JourneymanGeek even by the locals?
 
especially by the locals
 
@JourneymanGeek are you an Indian living in India, Bangalore?
 
vaguely legally no, no and no. In that order.
 
@JourneymanGeek you're a double blooder?
or triple
 
jrh
@Bob I haven't found anything like that on Win7
 
1:50 PM
he is a dog, are you being speciest?
 
@Burgi yes, im specie-ist, I hate humans
 
Actually legally no is accurate and funnier
 
and computers
 
Since my ID says Cylon Ceylonese.
 
Bob
@jrh yea, but your question asked about "any" version of windows :P
wouldn't be surprised if it was added in 8
 
jrh
1:51 PM
fair enough. It's cool to know it's in Win10 at least
 
@JourneymanGeek how do you get a strike thru effect here
 
@JourneymanGeek i fracking knew it!
@GwenKillerby magic
 
@GwenKillerby ---like this---
 
@JourneymanGeek so "fracking" is allowed but abbreviation for oral happy endings, not?
 
Also there's a help option on the bottom right of your screen
 
1:53 PM
oh noes
 
@GwenKillerby er. Yes. Cause we're not in BSG-land
 
@JourneymanGeek hate to tell you, but FRACKING has definitely left the BSG building
 
@GwenKillerby its also a method for mining natural gas trapped in shale
 
... Spaceship ...
@Burgi or oil trapped in shale
 
@Burgi clearly from context, we weren't talking about new ways to global suicide ....
 
1:55 PM
i think they are only using it for gas here
afk, deployment
 
@Burgi if you frack well and hard, it DOES tend to produce some "GAS", yes
 
SO do beans.
 
@JourneymanGeek if you don't have that experience, fracking is not going well for you guys
 
We don't frack in singapore. We buy other people's crude, refine it, and sell it back for profit ;p
 
@Burgi that whole tantric thing would kill gas by fracking, i guess
@je
@JourneymanGeek Singapore, cos just now i learned it has even more expensive HC than US
 
1:59 PM
Small country, definately not part of china last I checked. Has been kicked out of another country at least once.
 
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