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12:15 AM

morn

Hi!

12:26 AM

roar

@BenN Not much news lately.

PSA: Radeon RX Vega launches tomorrow!

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1:55 AM

##/tumbleweed

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Journeyman Geek

Ugh. This is one of those days I need to be in 3 places at once

2:38 AM

@JourneymanGeek have you considered cloning yourself?

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Q: Audible difference between "audio grade" capacitors in the same range?

The following is a list of prices for some capacitors sold by Mundorf, a massively audiophile-approved component company. Each capacitor is within the same product range ("EVO"), and apart from some differences in max voltage and tolerance (450VDC ~ 1000VDC, 3% ~ 2% tolerance) are all 1µF polyp...

capacitor audio measurement

@JourneymanGeek ^

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Journeyman Geek

3:53 AM

@Bob apparently it's science going too far

Henry WH Hack v2.1

Why not become the clone?

Journeyman Geek

4:55 AM

@HenryWHHackv2.1 cause one does not

Henry WH Hack v2.1

Logic at work.

Wait Not sure if I am saying JourneymanGeek is putting his logic to work or JourneymanGeek is the logic at work.

5:30 AM

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guy in front facepalming is our prime minister

guy in back with the smirk is our deputy PM, who's apparently a NZ (dual-)citizen and therefore ineligible

@MichaelFrank ^ :P

Apparently it's by descent

5:47 AM

lel

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7:14 AM

morning yall

mron

@JourneymanGeek minions!

mrrrron

oh god that song is in my head now

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k J'AI LE MINION!

7:30 AM

@Bob is the facepalm the moment he found out that he's ineligible?

urgh great

@JourneymanGeek I don't speak french :(*

Girls Aloud - Can't Speak French

@MichaelFrank not sure, it was on a news live feed/blog :P

we've lost two MPs and a third has stepped down from the cabinet thanks to NZ :P

Inelibible for what? to do the job he's already doing??

@djsmiley2k constitution says MPs can't be citizens of other countries

:D

7:37 AM

his father was a kiwi (NZer) so he's a citizen by descent according to NZ law

anyway, it's going over to the high court so they can figure out if this kind of case is allowed

Oh wait,

it doesn't say 'Must be of Au descent' ?

@djsmiley2k aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/…

> is under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power

:O

It's a bit of a funny situation because he's a citizen by NZ law but was never acknowledged (nor registered) as one

yeah

I can understand saying 'you must be a Aus citizen'

but saying 'you must not be a Citizen of anywhere else' seems a bit exclusive...

7:40 AM

@djsmiley2k Nah, makes sense. It's a conflict of interest.

oh ffs, sneezed on my monitors

@Bob .... we have lots of dual citizenship mps I'm sure.....

wait, point made ;D

welll

US requires you to be born in US to be the pres

but not for any other positions

@Avery nod, but do they require you don't have dual citizenship?

@djsmiley2k You sure?

so Donald can't be dual with Scotland?

7:43 AM

> 1.2 Citizens of other countries (including EU member states other than the UK, Republic of Ireland, Cyprus and Malta) are
not eligible to become a Member of the UK Parliament.

@Bob I thought Boris was american for example, and Farage, god knows what planet he's from ;)

That's from electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/173017/…

errr

nod, so you can be british, and indian you realise?

they are a bit more relaxed, though... any commonwealth country, eh?

maybe the rules need updating :/

7:45 AM

@djsmiley2k So, it says UK and other commonwealth citizens can stand

but not citizens of other countries

yup

I'm not sure if that just means "citizen of other country but not citizen of UK" or if the DENY rule overrides the ACCEPT :P

yeah, it's weird

> Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson PC MP (born 19 June 1964), known as Boris Johnson, is a British politician, popular historian and journalist. He has served as Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs since 2016 and as Member of Parliament (MP) for Uxbridge and South Ruislip since 2015. He had previously been MP for Henley from 2001 to 2008 and Mayor of London from 2008 to 2016. A member of the Conservative Party, Johnson identifies as a one-nation conservative and has been associated with both economically and socially liberal policies.

@djsmiley2k it's not an issue of where someone was born (at least in the AU case)

I mean I understand that being born somewhere doesn't automatically make you a citizen

7:46 AM

but actively holding dual-citizenship

like, you can be born in France for all the difference it makes, as long as you're an AU citizen and you've renounced all other citizenships

yup

@djsmiley2k Basically, I can see why it exists, but that it's applied in this case is a bit ridiculous

it's the renoucing all othe citizenships thing that makes me... ponder

well, it's applied because 'princial!'

(also kinda amusing because the same constitution this restriction appears in also proposed to have NZ as an AU state...)

@Bob ?

7:51 AM

I wonder if I can breathe tonight

very smokey this morning :P

spam?

wtf

something on this network is hammering the WAN so hard I can't even ssh into the router :/

yet inside the lan it's all fine and dandy, when I finally get on.

Journeyman Geek

sure its hammering?

if you're in maybe open/try another port?

huuuuh?

reliability 255/255, txload 20/255, rxload 255/255

I'm sure ;D

I'm just not sure what device it is

time to learn some new tricks

8:15 AM

(there's 2 laptops and a POS connected)

so I'm presuming right now it's one of the laptops but have no proof yet.

Journeyman Geek

eh, unplug them one by one? Sniffing traffic on modern networks is a pain.

yeah, they are remote

and users are useless ;D

i can just say 'remove them bloody laptops!'

but.... it'd be nice to know they are the source of the issue first.

Journeyman Geek

users often are. Sadly. we need them to have problems to solve

ah sweet

each device is directly connected to one of the fastEthernet ports \o/

ffs

clear the counters, get disconnected

I'm in today, currently on my own, with just teh technical architect who I believe has a lot of work to get through

so he doesn't need me asking pointless questions ;D

wow this is a really ghetto way of doing it

(clear the interface counter), check the stat a few seconds later

but so far it's working

one port is working overrrrrrrtime

8:37 AM

Hey, people. Is there anyone around with experience using the Kiwi syslog server on Windows? I'm trying to configure it to automatically save all incoming events to a file every minute (so each file contains a minute's worth of events). Not sure exactly how to achieve that.

I might've used it like 10 years ago

which means I remember absolutely nothing

Fair enough.

Journeyman Geek

prolly worth asking on the main site

Yeah. I was hoping for someone who uses it regularly and can whip out an answer off the cuff. :)

Thanks.

Journeyman Geek

8:56 AM

I did another one of those "I have no idea what I did but it works" ... to a printer

@djsmiley2k don't diss it if it works ;p

@JourneymanGeek Amen!

@lisardggY kiwisyslog.com/help/syslog/index.html?logfilerotation.htm

Specifically:

> Maximum log file age
Select this option if you want to ensure that no single log file in the rotation set exceeds a certain age.
The age of each file can be specified in minutes, hours, days, weekdays, weeks, months, quarters or years.

If you'd ask that as a question on the site, I'd be more than happy :)

tho This feature is only available in the licensed version.

9:27 AM

Yeah, the log rotation isn't exactly the solution I needed. I need the data to be dumped to a new file every X minutes and picked up by another app. The problem was, apparently, that I wasn't running the Syslog Console as admin, so the rules I configured weren't being saved. Without errors,of course. :-)

I have a vertical monitor. THIS IS 2017 LIVING BABY.

@lisardggY ah, so to not save right away?

but save out to file every X minutes?

oh how nice it'd be if outlook could 'learn' where to file my emails for me

@djsmiley2k Yeah. Basically, it does it now - it just saves any new events to the same file, split by minute, which is fine. The problem is that I can't know if a file is done, so my other app will try to read it before all messages have arrived.

Ideally, I want the files to be saved with a temporary extension (say, .csv.inprogress), and have them renamed automatically when the time window has passed.

Apparently, we have an in-house app that does it, so we're going to adapt it into our architecture.

9:46 AM

only look at files named file.00* ?

that's what the thing above does, btw

but the clavets apply..

But it rotates them. It will eat old files on its own, while I want it to continuously generate new ones.

I might be able to tell it to keep 999999 files, but it 's still not really the feature Ineed.

ah ok

so your application itself gets rid of said files?

I wonder if windows does the unixy thing of a named pipe, a fifo

which your application can just constantly read from

GUYS WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT

I kissed a girl after exactly 3 months today

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech no

@JourneymanGeek lololol

10:00 AM

nowai.

10:15 AM

@rahuldottech Congrats on your patience ;)

10:30 AM

yey installing RSAT toolkit

because it wasn't already installed o_O

Oliver Salzburg

CrashPlan is really working hard for my "Worst POS Software List" top spot

It has a tendency to crap out whenever it uploaded 99% of huge files, then restarts and tries again

Our upstream has been saturated by CrashPlan uploading the same crap over and over for a month

Awesome?

get backblaze ;D

CrashPlan is a DIY one?

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k Does it work?

@djsmiley2k What do you mean by DIY here?

Journeyman Geek

10:56 AM

you can back up to your own server?

Oliver Salzburg

You can, but I consider the cloud storage aspect to be part of the backup solution

And they do offer that. In fact, that is what you pay for. The software itself does not cost money

It just costs a ton of time

And it doesn't work as expected. That is kind of a problem for a backup software

11:10 AM

@OliverSalzburg Not a paid solution which comes with servers that someone else runs?

Nod

rsync!!

tho... MushaV3weekly.tar.gz 2% 125MB 189.8KB/s 192.0KB/s 8:33:57 ETA

slow upload is slow :/

/me gives it double the b/w

@OliverSalzburg This is a issue I know

if someone did something like backblaze, as reliable as backblaze, but in a 'DIY' format.... BB would go outta business maybe?

XD

Oliver Salzburg

11:24 AM

I don't care about DIY. I want WDIFY (We Do It For You)

But a lot of people claim that they can do it for you, but actually can't

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k backblaze's big selling point is cheap 'unlimited' storage tho

hmmm

storage is cheap these days

the fact theirs works... (as in i've heard of it working, compared to many things).

Journeyman Geek

(at the moment, I run an odd, cheap, homebrew backup solution ;p)

Oliver Salzburg

CrashPlan also offers "Unlimited" storage

Everyone does

And if they don't, storage is so laughably cheap these days, it's not a deciding factor when choosing a solution for me

12:05 PM

^^

@OliverSalzburg See, I believe backblaze can

12:28 PM

Crushing Anvil With Hydraulic Press

Oliver Salzburg

1:14 PM

@djsmiley2k I'll try to evaluate it before our subscription runs out

That's also the fun part with these services. If you decide you no longer want to pay, it's not like they send you a tape with all your backups in an easily consumable format

When we switch to a different service, all our backups are gone

Well, really our own fault for using their cloud offering in the first place

> The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that.

Anti-USA youtube geoblocks? Odd, never seen that before... Must be, UK girls are too hot for us

ok, they're basically UK Spice Girls but better

1:30 PM

@OliverSalzburg backblaze will send you a USB HDD with it on

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k Will they also let me directly download the raw data for all my managed machines?

@djsmiley2k i thought the ending of that was cute

How to Shoot an Anvil 200 Feet in the Air

2:24 PM

> As of 10am ET, Newegg's entire allocation of Vega 64 cards has sold through. This includes the stand-alone cards and the bundled cards. Indications are that Newegg's stock of cards sold through in under 15 minutes.

anandtech.com/show/11717/…

Pent-up demand, probably from both gamers and miners.

Wow

Now, not every miner is getting Vega because of its high power consumption, so more cards probably went to gamers this time around. But it's pretty clear there was a lot of pent-up demand.

Then again, some miners are snapping these cards up ASAP because there's real money to be made. Nothing throws off demand like the prospect of free money.

That's basically what cryptocurrency mining is.

:fire:

The gaming benchmarks aren't all that promising, either. I guess I'll just stick with the GTX 1080, which is a known quantity at this point.

(though blame NVIDIA and their vendor lock-in for at least part of this)

Jul 31 at 3:04, by bwDraco

I do not know if I really want Vega, though. My heart's pretty much set on the GTX 1080 or GTX 1080 Ti, though I'm still kinda resentful of NVIDIA for creating vendor lock-in with their PhysX and GameWorks middleware and prohibiting manufacturers from supporting both G-SYNC and FreeSync on the same display.

At 4K, Vega generally beats out the 1080. At 1440p, the two are very closely matched.

At 1080p, the NVIDIA card wins pretty much every time.

My bedroom already gets way too hot in the summer. I don't want a space heater of a graphics card when a competing solution can do most of the same things with 30% less power.

Vega's memory bandwidth gives it an edge at high resolutions, but I'm not planning to target 4K.

All told, AMD finally has a competitive high-end graphics card, but I'm not convinced it's better than the GeForce GTX 1080.

2:44 PM

@OliverSalzburg raw data?

As in the backups? I believe so.

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k The devil is in the details. I'd probably have to evaluate it

@Avery I fought hard for greenlattice and blue corner, and was also working on a superuser logo but germany overtook it within the first few hours

Welcome to Root Access, @Aaron

@OliverSalzburg Nod, me too

honestly ttp/ictr was the best imo

the server is still alive and going strong

really?

2:50 PM

Just as someone who seems to care about the same things you do (accessability to data, reliability), I've heard really good things.

IWC?

I'm admin on there as well

@Avery Have been since Plasteur was considering joining and Gen decided to be an asshole

gen was the owner of plasteur

I was the first mod

and first admin~

Niceee~

yeah I have that thing going on

I just kinda manage to get to big places

Same

2:52 PM

I'm also first moderator of twitch.tv/stockstream and the discord

I didn't even spend time as mod :P

I got an admin position immediately :P

Probably shouldn'tve

heh, yeah

"@GreenLattice @BlueCorner @RainbowRoad @PurpleLattice fuck u"

I also administered a 10k user steam group at some point

Niceee~

I try not to check the Discord too often

There is cancer there sometimes

Is the captcha thing excessively stupid still?

2:55 PM

I don't remember seeing a captcha on Discord, except possibly at sign-up

nonono

on Place

oh

I stopped place stuff tbh

same

mostly because captchas

literally every site required the most convoluted captchas because I was going through so many on Place 2.0

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