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12:02 AM
@ThatRussianGuy sounds like forums, and their passive agressive need for you to sign up
 
Bob
> Powered 'til this morning
I appear to have forgotten to charge my watch :P
 
proper first world problem, that
ow
If you run handbrake on OS X and updated recently...
 
Yes... That's scary.
 
Bob
12:26 AM
o.O
@JourneymanGeek could you unfreeze botoverflow?
 
Bob
oh wait, that's right. good luck with your first day at work, @JourneymanGeek :D
@JourneymanGeek thanks
 
thanks
 
12:41 AM
@ThatRussianGuy Cheap way to save bandwidth. Not that it helps SEO.
 
WOOHOO Check this shiny new blog out! rahul.tech
@Bob With enforced https! :P
 
12:59 AM
@ThatRussianGuy did you join the People's Republic of Linux?
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 lol
 
I am not pleased by the increasing difficulty with which Chrome allows me to view a site's certificate
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 not using let's encrypt? :P
 
cpanel? :(
 
Bob
@BenN yea, it's via devtools now
@JourneymanGeek I was just about to say that LOL
did we all try to check the cert/ssllabs it at the same time? :D
 
1:02 AM
yes
 
:D
 
(I use letsencrypt. For everything)
 
As do I, even though I have to do it manually in an Ubuntu VM
 
Bob
I've migrated most of mine to LE
some are still startssl/expired because I cbf :P
(notably, the mumble one, cause I don't host the server and domain challenge is a pain)
@Rahul2001 boooooooooooo ssllabs.com/ssltest/…
 
The file challenge isn't too bad; it's what I do for mine
 
Bob
1:03 AM
> This server is vulnerable to the POODLE attack. If possible, disable SSL 3 to mitigate. Grade capped to C.
> This server accepts RC4 cipher, but only with older protocols. Grade capped to B.
@BenN Yea, unfortunately that subdomain points to a host I don't control. I can't do any verification that requires running a webserver.
 
Ow
 
Bob
My only option is to manually do the domain challenge every 90 days and upload the cert.
Well, maybe I can script the namecheap API to auto-run certbot, but I'd still need to upload the cert manually.
Hm. Unless I do something crazy like automate the upload with Selenium :D
bah, too much work
 
Might even be able to rig up something with curl or cough a certain other console-based web interaction method
 
Bob
lol
@BenN unfortunately I think the admin interface I need to upload the cert with is a single-page app
curl, etc., make auth a pain
 
-WebSession FTW
 
Bob
1:09 AM
o.O
TIL
but does it run JS? :P
 
No :p
Buuuuuuut if you felt like creating an abomination you could host an Internet Explorer COM object
I have used that approach as well
 
Bob
@BenN Oooooooor I could just use Selenium with Firefox/Chrome.
 
Hehe, fair enough
 
Bob
I've played with (the sadly outdated/non-headless) Awesomium.NET
But automating IE is where I draw the line.
 
In other news, one of my cats had a litter of kittens today :D
Four of them: one black, one calico, one orange, and one Dalmatian-like
 
1:17 AM
Cool!
 
@BenN :D
 
@Burgi RED STAR LINUX IS BETTER LINUX!!!!!!!!!!
Red Star OS (Chosŏn'gŭl: 붉은별; MR: Pulgŭnbyŏl) is a North Korean Linux operating system. Development started in 1998 at the Korea Computer Center (KCC). Prior to its release, computers in North Korea typically used Ubuntu. Version 3.0 was released in the summer of 2013, but as of 2014 version 1.0 continues to be more widely used. It is only offered in a Korean language edition, localized with North Korean terminology and spelling. == Specifications == Red Star OS features a modified Mozilla Firefox browser titled Naenara used for browsing the Naenara web portal on the North Korean internet network...
Well, you have to admit, North Korea has a really strong background in develpment:
 
@BenN The next article after that is amusing: The Suicide Door
 
1:39 AM
Homework:
Hexadecimal to Binary
Binary to hex
Octal to Bin
Bin to Octal
Oct to Hex
Hex to Oct
Bin to Hex
Hex to Bin
Octal to Dec
Dec to Octal
...and so on...
This is painful
5 conversions of each combination
How do you even do Octal to Decimal?
 
> Start the decimal result at 0.
Remove the most significant octal digit (leftmost) and add it to the result.
If all octal digits have been removed, you're done. Stop.
Otherwise, multiply the result by 8.
Go to step 2.
According to Prof. Google, at least.
 
That's just step one :(
Why do I even have to learn this?
 
No, that's all the steps. Each line is a step.
 
oohh
 
@Rahul2001 cause sometimes you use a calculator. Sometimes you are the calculator. Other times, you write the calculator
 
1:54 AM
:D
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 decimal 123 is 3 * 10^0 + 2 * 10^1 + 1 * 10^2 yea?
for octal 123 it's 3 * 8^0 + 2 * 8^1 + 1 * 8^2
 
@Bob yep
Ohhhh
Yes!
 
Bob
you go right to left, adding each digit multiplied by the base to the power of the distance from the right
 
Thanks!!
 
Bob
wait. lemme just double-check
yea, that works out :P
(I've never actually done it for octal. or maybe once a long time ago. but same principal applies to hex)
 
2:18 AM
Hm. This place seems to have an odd number of small humans.
 
Bob
2:36 AM
https://stackexchange.com/
Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore. (not supposed to reach this) { [Error: URL after login incorrect]
  message: 'URL after login incorrect',
  type: 'WaitUntilTimeoutError' }
:P
@JourneymanGeek ... oh. I thought you meant ... something else.
 
@Rahul2001 You know about groping when converting between Bin, Hex and Oct?
 
Bob
@RogUE I would recommend not groping anything or anyone.
2
 
@Rahul2001 It's a lot easier( I really don't know the correct name of that methode, if it has one)
@Bob Why is that?
 
@Bob Well, my mistake.
 
Bob
2:40 AM
@RogUE Sorry, I was just trying to make a joke out of the typo
 
Thats allright.
 
Bob
2:57 AM
@allquixotic poke
 
sup
 
Bob
@allquixotic so, bot. apparently the login flow kinda changed and now SE treats SE login as actual oauth
But I've kinda got that working, and geckodriver too. which implemented a slightly different webdriver spec? but selenium standalone (java) can bridge it
@allquixotic I'm at the point of trying to get ff to persist a profile, but it... hm. tbh I don't know how. did you have that working before?
 
Blargh, that probably means my bot is broken too. Will investigate tomorrow
 
@Bob yeah, se-chatbot-driver
 
Bob
@allquixotic ah, damn... don't have FirefoxProfile with geckodriver
 
3:22 AM
@Bob DesiredCapabilities? :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yea, but no way to pass a profile. I'm falling back to args which lets me pass in --profile=/blah but then Marionette opens on the wrong port
ugh
@allquixotic do you happen to know how I can pass args to a driver when running selenium standalone?
actual CLI args
java -Dwebdriver.gecko.driver=/root/dev/geckodriver -jar selenium-server-standalone-3.4.0.jar
I'll need to pass a port in to geckodriver
 
@Bob prolly cause there's no more se login, and it probably means one less thing to maintain for legacy accounts
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek SE login still exists. my new sock was created with it.
it's just a backend change with no user-visible effects. unless you're running a bot login with tight timings.
 
3:37 AM
Oo. Preeeeeeeeety sure they killed that off o0
 
Bob
I feel so dirty
# cat geckodriver-launcher
#!/bin/sh
./geckodriver --marionette-port 12345
 
Bob
when you can't pass args in... make a wrapper! :P
 
ah
for a moment I thought you used cat to launch it
I'm in the odd place between working and not yet working. Since they're still processing my paperwork 0_0
 
Bob
1494214943696   geckodriver     ERROR   Address in use (os error 98)
wat
lies
lies and slander
oh wait, this is just lies
 
3:49 AM
and statistics?
 
Bob
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@allquixotic I got the script working! Next up: make it work headlessly
 
"beatingbloodoutofarockwithahalberd"
0_0
so, no formal ticketing system, the other IT guy is also facilities. And for some reason I had to fill up the teaching staff degree confirmation....
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek interesting :P
*** You are running in headless mode.
so far so good
 
@Bob in the old chinese proverb sense?
 
Bob
Unable to init server: Broadway display type not supported
fak
in other words, not quite ready yet
welp
 
4:05 AM
GO FOR LUNCH, REPEAT, GO FOR LUNCH.
3
 
4:30 AM
@Bob awesome!
@Bob LAME
try headless Chrome? :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...Maybe later :P
 
user226528
5:07 AM
@XKCD How about the time when they actually sent a lunch order and ended up starting a nuclear war?
 
5:28 AM
hm. Good news is this place is terribly ad hoc.
Bad news is this place is terribly ad hoc
 
Bob
lol
@JourneymanGeek I could've told you that when you said it was a school :P
 
lol
apparently the other IT guy is also facilities...
and the student management system is an access 2003 thing... and everyone's on 2016
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Just pray you don't have to set up Office 2016 for the foreign affairs company that works with Saudi Arabia.
 
I also still have no contract nor know my hours...
or my job title
or....
 
user226528
Been through worse
 
5:38 AM
beats unemployment ;p
apparently the current IT guy handles... everything tho
apparently including facilities
 
Bob
5:58 AM
@bertieb Well, looks like B2's becoming a more attractive option :P backblaze.com/blog/b2-drops-download-pricing
@JourneymanGeek sounds like a school
@JourneymanGeek ...yea, uh, the contract is kinda meant to be the thing you sign before you start
 
errrrm yeah
also I have no work PC, account setup....
and the senior all the things guy isn't here
Its a bit messy 0_0
also my seat is terrible
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek school :P
 
lol
yeaaah
spoiled by my time in VFX
I'm supposed to be issued a laptop. But I'm half of IT soooooo
Oh, there's also no real inventory of hardware it seemms
yeah. schoooool
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek I think I just found something more annoying than your plight: A piece of song is stuck into my head and I don't know where I have heard it or what is the rest of it.
 
user226528
Bad employers, I can negotiate with. Ear worms ... er...
 
6:14 AM
lol
not sure there's much plight here
just a period of adjustment
 
6:34 AM
sounds like if you want anything done, you'll be doing it yourself
 
user226528
@Psycogeek The story of my life.
 
user226528
The story of everyone's life?
 
user226528
The story of every successful person's life?
 
user226528
(Surely, there are some pampered kids who get excluded here.)
 
user226528
6:39 AM
...
la la la. I'll survive...
 
user226528
...
What IS this song!
 
user226528
...
"Cause I have cursed myself"? No, that doesn't sound right.
 
Bob
@FleetCommand can you hum a recording? or remember any lyrics?
you have me curious now :P
 
user226528
@Bob That's all I remember: "la la la. I'll survive... Cause I have cursed [?] myself."
 
user226528
And I don't have a mic here. I'm in my workplace, you know.
 
Bob
6:45 AM
phone mic? :P
I wouldn't be able to listen to it right now anyway, I'm at work too
 
user226528
I have an iPhone, yes. Maybe Shazam can identify it.
 
user226528
Progress! I had an epiphany: People don't curse themselves. If anything, they "bless" themselves. That's nonsense, sure, but I am having a positive Google hit on "I'll survive 'cause I have blessed myself".
 
Bob
7:06 AM
@FleetCommand I think SoundHound is a bit better for humming, but it's still quite poor
Shazam is good for actual music recordings
@allquixotic I started looking, but then:
> Note: you may encounter bugs using ChromeDriver. At the time of writing, the latest release (2.29) only supports Chrome 58. Headless Chrome requires Chrome 59 or later.
bleh.
@allquixotic Also, PJS is basically dead: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/phantomjs/9aI5d-LDuNE
 
7:53 AM
morning
 
@JourneymanGeek Facilities as in cleaning the toilets?
 
Almost
 
@JourneymanGeek @DavidPostill @FleetCommand I have no real advice except to just keep ploughing on. The problem comes in when you get a load of flags declined on a single day, you go from being able to to flag to not being able to flag without seeing a warning
 
Kez
Anyone good with removing really nasty viruses that have got deep into a Windows installation? It's called Cortana...
 
Lol
 
user226528
8:03 AM
Compulsory lol
 
@Rahul2001 looks interesting
 
Bob
@allquixotic I think Chrome is a bust. bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=604324#c30
 
user226528
@Kez Why does it bother you?
 
@Kez I'm trying to install Windows 7 on a touch tablet not just because of Cortina but because Windows 10 basically requires an internet connection and a fairly good one because of all the stuff connecting to the web. that doesn't work out too well with me being mobile and the new unlimited cough cough data from my phone company being only 128 bytes per second Windows 10 continuous connections basically kills itself programs locked up waiting for response from the web
Kbytes
Sadly, I have got more done on the phone, which has a simple setting of Restricting background net data,
 
Bob
@Psycogeek ...win10 has a similar option, iirc
 
user226528
8:18 AM
@Psycogeek Well, similar options. Plural. But I've turned them off.
 
I don't know how well that works in Windows in Android though programs don't lock up waiting for the web to respond
 
@Bob Windows 10 has an Airplane mode.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank it also has a metered network toggle
 
user226528
I have lots of reasons to dislike Windows 10 but Cortana and background app activity isn't one of them.
 
I don't have Cortana
 
user226528
8:26 AM
@MichaelFrank Enterprise LTSB?
 
@FleetCommand Pro
 
user226528
@MichaelFrank O.o?
 
Windows 10 Pro. No Cortana
Or it's disabled or something...
 
@Rahul2001 its not got active development
 
user226528
@MichaelFrank Do you have search?
 
8:27 AM
yea, I've got a search, just not the "How can I help you today?" box
 
user226528
Oh, well, I disabled that too. Windows 10 Enterprise (workplace)
 
Oh, huh... Cortana is there.
It doesn't do anything though :S
 
Bob
urk
@allquixotic @JourneymanGeek I've got an amnesiac Cavil here :(
He doesn't even remember his own name!
oh I just love this
@allquixotic So. Firefox doesn't work with geckodriver in headless mode. Chrome doesn't work with profile directories (and mixed-content) in headless mode. We can't use either yet.
On the plus side, the webdriver works perfectly with an X server :P
 
 
2 hours later…
10:26 AM
Hi there. Would you guys be interested in this question about setting up OpenGL?
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Q: My Nvidia GeForce 940MX doesn't have OpenGL?

bi0phaz3I'm having a problem with my graphics card's driver. It doesn't seem to have OpenGL support... If I download OpenGL Extensions Viewer, my card doesn't show up, it's just my Onboard Intel that has the OpenGL acceleration and there is one that shows "GDI Generic". Nvidia page says that my card su...

 
10:52 AM
@DavidPostill not quite but close
 
11:50 AM
@JourneymanGeek @DavidPostill this user has posted a load of really bad answers very close together, they might need a quiet word about how the site works
 
12:17 PM
So I watched Deadpool. I don't like it because movie is kind of vulgar with weird people.
I never heard of comic book before so this anti-superhero was new to me.
 
i didn't like it either
i didn't mind the vulgarity, i just thought it was over-hyped and felt a little rushed
 
It tries to be sarcastic and funny but it kind of lacked the point ...
Deadpool and his girlfriend are 2 wacky weirdos...
 
she is hot though
 
The X-Men Colossus disappointed. I don't know much about this guy but is he typically supposed to be intelligent, manly and gentle?
It seemed like his presence was unnecessary...
I played X-Men video game on arcade and he seemed like a charismatic team leader there.
Here he's the opposite.
 
i disagree with you there
 
12:26 PM
Where I said he was unnecessary?
Or what was my assumption on him?
 
your assumption of him
 
Good thing I didn't bet money on it...
 
why would you bet on a film thats been out for 2 years?
 
No. I meant betting on my assumption. Like $10 that my assumption is correct. If it's correct, you PayPal me $10. If it's not, I PayPal you $10.
When I get emotional, I can do dumb things.
 
lol! its only a film, dude
 
12:38 PM
I can find any reason for betting...
But at least I am not addicted...
 
@DanHulme Send it over, but please ask the user to include his OS.
 
@Boris_yo i bet you are!
 
Don't you hate these life insurance agents sometimes? You want basic, they offer premium just because your teeth are covered. What if you refuse? Get punched in your face by that agent in a dark street corner and lose teeth just because you refused!
"How much you teeth are worth to you pal? Remember my offer? You should have taken it!" *Punch
That's for me getting laid off because I fail to sell you premium insurance!
"Oh yea... How much your kidney is worth to you ;)"

NoooO!
 
o.O
 
"Have a cell? You should cover it too with our premium plan! Or else you will lose it tomorrow!"
@Burgi Revenge of sales agent. I am making stuff up.
Sometimes the sell you as if their life depends on it and it annoys me.
 
user226528
12:45 PM
The writer of this article must be hanged: Stop HTML5 autoplay videos in Chrome, Firefox, Opera
 
@FleetCommand I find it useful because I hate auto-plays not because they are NSFW but because they are loud!
 
user226528
I took its advice ... and lost the notification sounds of this chatroom!
 
@FleetCommand why?
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Why what? Why I took its advice or why I lost the notification sound?
 
12:48 PM
@FleetCommand is it working again now?
 
user226528
Yes. It was a simple matter of undoing it.
 
@FleetCommand Chrome?
 
user226528
Firefox
 
user226528
Told me to set the media.autoplay setting to false.
 
@Burgi @JourneymanGeek Dealt with.
 
user226528
12:49 PM
I did and guess what? All media, not just videos, stopped auto-playing.
 
@DavidPostill thanks!
 
user226528
Including this chatroom's "thud" notification sound!
 
you hear "thud" sounds?
 
user226528
Right now, yes.
 
are you sure that isn't a murderer breaking in?
 
user226528
12:51 PM
LOL. What do you hear? The sound of a canary's love song?
 
@Burgi it's more "thuda-imp" .. it happens when you get pinged.
 
i hear a unicorn farting
trolls with the best
 
@FleetCommand I would love to hear that. How do I customize the thud sound into a canary singing?
You're supposed to be Super Users ... figure it out!
@Burgi You can hear rainbows? Can you also see sound?
 
user226528
@Nick I know how to. I'm not just in the mood to give you the speech about it.
 
@Nick i can also taste rainbows
 
12:53 PM
@FleetCommand Aww, well, please remember to ping me when you are in the mood.
 
o.O
 
@Burgi What about double rainbows?
 
they are triple tasty
 
translate: Славный коммунизм
 
i see...
 
12:57 PM
@Burgi what do you see?
 
dead people?
 
Don't touch the water...
 
user226528
@Burgi As long as those dead people are not walking towards you, shouting "I eatz brainz", you are OK.
 

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