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bwDraco

00:21

So... was toying with the idea of getting VR gear. I have the rig to do VR, but is it worth it?

Canadian Luke

I like some setups. Saw one at a comic-con style convention, and it was pretty rad

Do you have games that support it?

Journeyman Geek

boingboing.net/2017/11/15/…

bwDraco

Except for some Serious Sam titles, not really.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I think VR's kinda at "that point" where current hardware's vaguely at a peak, build qualitywise. But its either going to get cheaper (which is good and bad) or die.

bwDraco

There's enough room to set up an approx. 7x7 ft play area for room-scale VR, maybe a bit more, but some room layout changes would be needed.

Burgi

00:27

@DavidPostill lol!

@JourneymanGeek i think its dying

mainly due to high gear prices, lack of content and no solution to the vomit inducing motion sickness that plague the mid-90s VR systems...

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi well, high gear prices is fixable.

BUT cheaper sometimes means cut corners, and there's kind of like a point where you can either buy good stuff or cheap crap. Heck look at 4k ;p

Burgi

fair point

my boss' best mate has a vive and he said, and i quote, "porn makes a technology"

and apparently it is awful on VR

Journeyman Geek

I cannot really argue with that

Burgi

he said the perspective is weird because you feel physically tiny and that everyone around you is a giant

no pun intended

Canadian Luke

Your boss' best mate is correct though

Burgi

00:38

my observation of the tech and porn... you are more likely to get caught

with regards to the tech peaking, CCP fired 100 staff from their VR division recently and they were one of the only developers making full games for VR

bwDraco

Almost time to renew security software...

amazon.com/Norton-Security-Deluxe-Device-Download/dp/B015724OVG

Journeyman Geek

heh. I'll refrain from giving my opinion there. I do it often enough ;)

bwDraco

Still using Norton. Love it or hate it, I haven't really had an issue with it. It just works.

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek on AV or VR?

Journeyman Geek

on AV

(not a fan or norton, typically go with defender, and its good enough IMO)

Michael Frank

00:49

I recently uninstalled Avast! from my brothers laptop... it did not want to go quietly.

Journeyman Geek

imgur.com/gallery/mHQTaOx sammies are adorable

Bob

01:07

@Burgi I wonder if that counts as TMI :P

my Gear VR's been sitting in the box for over a year

Bob

01:33

> a single IP address may represent 1 person or theoretically millions of households, welcome to the internat btw

> internat

2

:D

Journeyman Geek

Freudian slip or bloody fracking brilliant?

Ramhound

01:56

@MichaelFrank why is ...

Everyone I join the channel I always have MF user number in my chat box interesting

Anyways... any suggestion on how to improve this answer? (@All)

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A: How can I see what is included in a Windows 10 feature update?

How can I see what the update actually is? Microsoft publishes and has published similar articles for all the current and yet to be released feature updates. Some interesting changes of many are the following: Voice-activated Power Commands. In addition to exciting voice-activated fe...

allquixotic

02:11

This is the "source" of GNU IceCat -- scripts that convert a Firefox tree into an Icecat tree -- can anyone find the source code for their "fingerprinting countermeasure" feature? git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git

Bob

@allquixotic what fingerprinting countermeasure?

allquixotic

> Fingerprinting countermeasures: Fingerprinting is a series of techniques allowing to uniquely identify a browser based on specific characterisics of that particular instance (like what fonts are available in that machine). Unlike cookies the user cannot opt-out of being tracked this way, so the browser has to avoid giving away that kind of hints.

Bob

@allquixotic that's marketing-speak

@allquixotic what, technically, does it do?

allquixotic

@Bob Don't know. Not sure if it's an extension (that could be grabbed and loaded into actual Firefox), or a patch to the native code.

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

That gnuzilla repo is supposed to contain all of their modifications that would apply cleanly via a script to a Firefox ESR source checkout.

Bob

@allquixotic Well, the extensions are here git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git/tree/data/extensions

git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git/tree/data/extensions/…

this is why I don't like GNU -_-

Michael Frank

02:21

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/NateN1222/…

That's the extension "collection" they're using.

Journeyman Geek

.... why does a extension to log into mickey d's wifi without idelogically pure JS belong on a default install?

bwDraco

-_- dash underscore dash

:p

(feeling a bit silly)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek because apparently their fanatical idealism ends where free wifi begins

Journeyman Geek

@Bob but. does McDonalds sell gnu burgers?

Are their menus GPL?

Bob

@allquixotic I suspect most of the "fingerprinting countermeasures" are just a couple of spoofed values and a whole bunch of marketing BS

I also don't see anything there that would block canvas fingerprinting (there actually is an addon for that)

>
// Spoof the useragent to a generic one

>
pref("network.http.sendRefererHeader", 2);
pref("network.http.referer.spoofSource", true);

>
//http://grack.com/blog/2010/01/06/3rd-party-cookies-dom-storage-and-privacy/
//pref("dom.storage.enabled", false);

"If your website is broken, you can't track me!"

Journeyman Geek

02:31

wait. they disabled HTML5 storage?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it's commented out. I assume they wanted to, but found out it basically breaks the web

Journeyman Geek

hah

Bob

I was talking with a guy on #firefox a couple weeks ago about canvas fingerprinting

interesting stuff

allquixotic

@Bob Well, sounds like Icecat is a waste of time then :P

I thought they had actual interesting anti-fingerprinting code worth using

Bob

@allquixotic that's what I thought you meant, but ... well, if they did, they're hiding it well

allquixotic

02:35

if there's an extension for it on FF, then that's what I'd use

Bob

@allquixotic btw, addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/no-canvas-fingerprinting

but there's other fingerprinting methods, of course

browserleaks.com/canvas

fun thing about these fingerprinting blockers

they generally make you more unique

they're only useful for changing your fingerprint

(but you have to change it somewhat regularly)

@allquixotic also, most of the easier fingerprinting methods are gone along with plugins (flash, silverlight, java)

especially the old big one: installed fonts

you can still kinda guess installed fonts by trying them one at a time, but that's very inefficient. can't get an easy list anymore

@JourneymanGeek @rahuldottech rainloop.net looks interesting

Journeyman Geek

ooh

that looks really nice

yode

02:52

Why get downvote??

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Q: The consist of the window in vertical direction

I'm in window 10, my resolution is 1920*1080. I always hope to use c++ code to generate a window to show image or other something. But I hope to use adequately the range of screen in vertical direction to show the content. If I use snipaste to capture the title bar. I can know the height of tit...

Journeyman Geek

@yode title makes no sense.

yode

No, it is now a promgram question ..

Journeyman Geek

why the c++ tag?

question is slightly hard to understand...

yode

Or you mean I make a English syntax error?

Journeyman Geek

Tim post lost his keys... meta.stackexchange.com/a/215397/135565

@yode your title reads exactly like a spam post ;p

also... why an actual photo? 0_0

yode

02:55

The poor English always hurt me..

But I think the current title show what I'm after exactly.

How should make some change for it?

Michael Frank

@yode I think you might have misused the word consist there. Do you mean the height of a window?

yode

Yes

height of the screen

Journeyman Geek

I don't even get what's being said there enough to guess ;p

yode

So terrible??

Journeyman Geek

Urm

yes

Bob

02:59

@JourneymanGeek I'm guessing they're asking why the sum of titlebar + content area + taskbar is > height of screen

(or, more accurately, the expected numbers for those areas, based on docs)

yode

Yes Yes Yes..

@Bob If you can read it, could you help to improve my choice for those English word?

Bob

erm

bwDraco

amazon.com/Dell-S2417DG-24-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B01IOO4SGK

Bob

@yode I'm not entirely sure what "I always hope to use c++ code to generate a window to show image or other something. But I hope to use adequately the range of screen in vertical direction to show the content. " means

bwDraco

Reviews on this monitor look great, ticks all the right boxes: 24", 1440p QHD, 144+ Hz with G-SYNC, low lag, great color gamut with true 8-bit panel. But it's TN – is this a deal-breaker for photo editing? At least we won't have IPS glow to deal with.

(and yes, I prefer 24" over 27")

Bob

03:12

@yode I tried. Dunno how accurate it is.

bwDraco

(my current monitor is IPS, but 6-bit with a more limited color gamut)

yode

@Bob maximized window cannot keep the ratio of image I want to show

I'm use Opencv to do some image-proccess

Bob

@yode If it's a programming question then it should be on SO...

Where you'll find someone has already asked that question

yode

But it is not a real programming question.. I afraid the SO don't happy with it also..

Bob

@yode You're apparently asking about the result of an API call.

If you're calling GetSystemMetrics, then that's a programming question, IMO.

yode

03:18

little make some sense

Bob

Also, AFAICT, SM_CYFULLSCREEN includes the title bar.

> To get the coordinates of the portion of the screen not obscured by the system taskbar or by application desktop toolbars, call the SystemParametersInfo function with the SPI_GETWORKAREA value.

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/…

But yea. That's a programming question. Off-topic for SU.

yode

If SuperUser cannot give me the answer, I will consider the SO also

Thanks a lot anyway

bwDraco

...and I am ordering from Best Buy, with a price match against Amazon.

Bob

> You’ve either forgotten your details or were too lazy to type properly.

that's a new one

yode

03:37

@Bob What is the details you mean?

Bob

I was logging in to a website.

yode

Sorry, are you talk to me?

Bob

nope

that was just a random message

bwDraco

So... I just ordered a Dell S2417DG. Any comments?

It'll be a while before it arrives.

(chose Best Buy because I had a reward certificate to apply)

allquixotic

04:05

@bwDraco Just one; as someone who games on a 100 Hz G-Sync monitor, both the higher refresh rate (which yours doesn't appear to have, if I'm not wrong?) and the G-Sync feature itself make gameplay considerably smoother. It's so much easier on the eyes and natural.

Another nice thing about G-Sync is a lot of users report that lower framerates with G-Sync look pretty tolerable; you will experience input lag, of course, at lower FPS, but the visual appearance, while visibly choppy under 30 FPS, will look pretty seamless (almost as good as 60 FPS) from 30-50 ish

so if you lag a bit, you might miss your shot, but at least the game will look smooth :P

bwDraco

So... is TN a big problem if the display has good color accuracy?

(the S2417DG has a fairly wide gamut, much better than the Acer H226HQL I'm working with right now, and uses a true 8-bit panel)

For what it's worth, I don't think the H226HQL is a bad monitor per se since it is IPS after all, but the color gamut and response time (especially with the overdrive overshoot) leave much to be desired.

@allquixotic Yeah, I've read similar reports. I'm getting tired of seeing screen tearing while I play Assassin's Creed Origins.

allquixotic

@bwDraco TNs can affordably be made higher Hz and G-Sync whereas with other screen technologies, achieving similar response times and higher refresh rates is more expensive -- we can do it, but the prices are pretty high

bwDraco

(and yes, the monitor does come with a DisplayPort cable)

allquixotic

Predator X34 is a $1000 monitor

MSRP'ed at $1400

bwDraco

@allquixotic It's 144 Hz.

allquixotic

04:15

@bwDraco :o oh nice

bwDraco

1 hour ago, by bwDraco

Dell Gaming S2417DG YNY1D 24-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor with G-SYNC

Dell Marketing USA, LP

Dell S2417DG - 23.8" Gaming Monitor with QHD 2560X1440 resolution.

allquixotic

well, good luck getting 144 FPS, but with G-Sync, you won't notice slightly lower than max FPS causing any tearing or visible artifacts; even 100 Hz will look very smooth to the eye with G-Sync

530M pixels per second at 1440p144

3440x1440@100Hz is only 495M pixels per second :o

530M is higher than 4K60!

bwDraco

Yeah. I don't think I can get a full 144 Hz much of the time.

Now, I have a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, but still...

allquixotic

4K60 is 497M

bwDraco

(currently rendering at 1728p, 160% of 1080p; I'll drop the resolution scale back to 100% once I get the monitor)

allquixotic

04:17

1080 Ti might be able to handle 530M PPS on most titles on high/ultra today but not great future proofing compared to, say, a 2K60 or 1080p60 monitor with much lower PPS

if you start to "feel the lag" you'll want to upgrade that GPU to Volta Ti or something sooner rather than later :P

bwDraco

Well, lower frame rates are more tolerable on a variable-refresh display.

I don't think I'd really need a graphics card upgrade within the next few years.

bwDraco