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Bob
12:04 AM
o.o
 
(Was google searching that, and that was accidental and too perfect)
 
Bob
@allquixotic cnet.com/news/…
 
@JourneymanGeek yup
@Bob :((((
 
@Bob I think I linked that yesterday
and :(
 
"Moto" lives on in "Moto by Lenovo", though. meh.
so, half of the legacy name lives
that'd be like saying Nok by Microsoft
 
12:13 AM
At the rate things are going, I might end up hoping razer makes a smartphone ;p
 
my cat could make a better smartphone than Lenovo
 
@allquixotic I've had great luck with their hardware, and they seem to get it
also, their laptops and other stuff look cool ;p
 
@allquixotic The Nokia brand is being phased out altogether.
"Microsoft Lumia"
 
12:51 AM
@JourneymanGeek I have an X230. It's nice.
 
@MichaelFrank I have an X220, its a lovely laptop but lenovo's gotten rid of the oldstyle keyboard on every model after that
 
1:41 AM
I wasted my time asking somebody to quote material from a link. I read the answer a second time and realized they were asking a question themselves <cry>
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A: Does the Windows 10 ISO have a EI.CFG file for changing the edition?

geneniooI can combine .wims all into one and copy the same one into both x86 and x64 sources directory and through optimization those .wims (or .esds) are seen as one and the .iso will fit on a single layer DVD (though not so on a usb stick). See thread here (may have to register for site): http://forum...

 
2:03 AM
heh. We have JWs at the door. Dog chased them off
 
JWs?
 
(JWs are kinda the only religious group the government here's banned)
 
ahhh
 
Jehova's doorbangers witnesses
so darned hot
 
....
I should have read the darn manufacture's website better.....wasted my time
 
3:05 AM
 
Bob
3:16 AM
O.o
Hmmm. @JourneymanGeek went through a Smiggle again just to check. No FPs :P
It feels so awkward going in there.
 
Bob
3:34 AM
Ahhh, nothing quite like Swift on the supermarket speakers :P
 
@Bob local shop said they discontinued the fps iirc
 
3:51 AM
@JourneymanGeek They're a seasonal stationary store. They probably rotate out most of their inventory a couple times a year.
 
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Q: Switching between two dedicated GPU's from different manufacturers (Windows 10)

WowfunhappyI have a powerful nVidia GPU, an old and slow AMD GPU, and a motherboard with two PCIe slots. I also have an old, obscure video game which has graphical glitches under nVidia cards. It's a rhythm game which requires good audio/video sync, so using a Virtual Machine is out of the question. It wor...

Call me crazy but shouldn't the user be able to simply disable the display device they are not using?
Because I know DX12 technically allows for Nvidia/AMD configurations, trying to visualize, how it could be done with an old game. I realize you couldn't combine the processing power though.
nuke from orbit
I can't flag....4 declined flags out of dozens = ban lol
 
7 mins ago, by Ramhound
I can't flag....4 declined flags out of dozens = ban lol
 
Yeah, apparently a moderator declined 4 flags out of 16 in a day.
Overall, only 8% of my flags are declined.
 
4:09 AM
Okay. Should last no longer than seven days.
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A: Allow recovery from flag hellban

Shog9Update: Kevin Montrose makes it happen The hell-ban is no more! Long live the verbose, obnoxiously evident ban! Kevin has implemented (more or less) the system described below. Flaggers with a recent (past 7 days) flagging history consisting of at least 10 handled flags where >= 10% of flags we...

 
(yeah, i know)
 
4:22 AM
Boo
TNT passed on Teen Titans
 
@Ramhound user and question nuked
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Yea that's what I was told last time.
 
yummy nuked user :-) (slightly overdone though)
 
My dad's 5m of LED strip lighting came in
 
Hmm... any other ideas on how to get the most out of cloud IaaS?
I'm currently paying $30 a month, with a bit of room for the occasional large workload that requires provisioning additional resources.
 
4:31 AM
@bwDraco that's roughly what I'm paying for a dedi
@Ramhound I could actually test this. Later though, I don't want to accidentally render my system unusable ;p
 
I am typcially speaking Nvidia owned Physics, so you can suplement a AMD card with a Nvidia card, but the user wants the other way around I think
 
I think SSDs have reached the point where they have better data density than spinning tust
 
4:56 AM
Nov 25 '15 at 5:14, by bwDraco
At this point, SSDs have already exceeded the storage density of conventional hard drives.
 
Bob
Still a ways off in $/GB
 
by several factors
8TB is currently something like $200
I think..
hell 8TB external is $250
Likely the best HDD on the market is $500
Here we go at $250
( yeah 8TB isn't mainstream at the faster speeds apparently )
that external is an amazing deal, got a 6TB just not 6 months ago at that price
 
I'd probably recommend 4TB drives for lowest cost per GB right now.
 
Bob
lol my rather ghetto-like radio setup
cheap-ish DAB+ radio
and that BT speaker from yesterday
 
Cost per GB starts to go up at 5 TB and becomes horrendous at 6 TB, so not really recommended unless you need maximum storage density.
 
Bob
5:05 AM
hey, it works
 
I plan on getting the highest density Seagate black ( 5 year warranty )
$0.03125/GB isn't bad.
 
@Ramhound SSHD models are the fastest, although the 4TB model has a 5900 RPM spindle speed (rather than the 7200 RPM of smaller models). Higher storage density should make up for it, though.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Hm. I'm getting some stations on 64kbps and some on 48kbps with HE-AAC v2.
ooh here's one with 112kbps
 
@Bob is that the one with ludcious amounts of LEDs or the fountain?
 
Bob
5:15 AM
very stuttery though :\
@JourneymanGeek The speaker with LEDs :P
Hm. Error rate is pretty low.
I wonder if 112kbps is too much for this radio to handle.
there's a 88kbps one
and a 40kbps. the worst yet
it's alright for a bit of background noise but not much else :P
 
There's a new 8 TB hard drive on the horizon, and it's not SMR. seagate.com/www-content/product-content/desktop-hdd-fam/en-us/…
Six platters, 1.33 TB each.
Also features the largest cache yet on a consumer hard drive, 256 MB. (HGST Ultrastar He10 helium-filled hard drives have 256 MB caches but these are enterprise drives.)
Curious. WD is doing no more than 5 platters on their air-filled drives, yet Seagate is doing 6 platters.
The 8 TB drive appears to have some significant changes to the drive's internal architecture compared to the 6 TB and lower models.
I thought turbulence was an issue with more than four or five platters?
Seagate really needs to come out with new SSHDs that have more NAND. 32 GB of NV cache would dramatically boost overall system performance. 8 GB only provides a limited boost depending on your application.
 
5:40 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes please
 
I understand how the drive avoids caching sequential I/O to make the most of the cache (random I/O is where it really matters), but 8 GB really isn't enough NAND to produce a substantial benefit.
Yes, it helps, but making the cache larger will make systems fly, making an SSHD with 32 GB of NAND a convincing alternative to an SSD especially in budget-constrained builds.
 
Bob
Meh. On a desktop I'd rather (and it's cheaper to) manage the cache myself on an independent drive.
On a laptop removing the spinning platter itself helps more.
 
6:08 AM
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A: Can powerline network adapters receive the usage stats my power meter sends to my electric company?

user542848If you're in The Netherlands (or the Dutch speaking part of Belgium swim can give you quite detailed info about 'it'. Otherwise, not really an idea...

<sigh>
ROFL Adobe plans to fix Acrobat and Reader :$
I thought thats what the $500 yearly upgrades were for :$
 
@Ramhound Uh, what? We have Document Cloud these days...
Adobe DC runs $15 a month per seat.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:23 AM
Reckon this is taking a while, eh?
That timer started at 50% progress...
 
 
2 hours later…
9:24 AM
Microsoft has by far the best spellcheck/autocorrect implementations I've used—especially the one used in Windows Store apps. As an example of the attention to detail Microsoft has put into the spell checker, "Pokemon" autocorrects to "Pokémon", adding the acute accent.
 
Bob
9:46 AM
That has nearly nothing to do with the algorithm... that's just the word dictionary.
 
10:12 AM
YABADABADOOOOOOOOOO
Earlier versions of Swiftkey were far better than MicroShaft
 
Bob
10:37 AM
Hm. I'm tempted to pick up a couple more of these speakers to give as gifts later :P
 
Bob
0o
 
10:54 AM
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Bob
I can't decide if that's supposed to represent a spider or a ghost.
Spiderghost?
Spiderghost, spiderghost. Does whatever a spiderghost does.
...I'll stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
TIL, I can stuff a large cat or a load bearing vest into my backpack.
 
Bob
You have a large cat?
Wait. Why are you stuffing cats into backpacks?
Is everything alright over there?
 
(naw, stuffed an LBV into my backpack for monday
 
11:55 AM
Does anyone know if resetting my PC will take me back to windows 8, even if I'm currently on Windows 10??
 
@RahulBasu it shouldn't
 
So, no way of going back to windows 8?
 
You MAY be able to use your windows.old folder
or meh, use a backup
 
My Grandad DOESN'T keep backups :(
 
Bob
If it was within a month and you haven't installed a major update you should have a restore to 8 option
 
12:02 PM
and windows.old gets deleted after a month of upgrading
its been more than a month :(
I HATE MSFT
 
Actually, take that back, I DISLIKE MSFT
 
Quite honestly feels like user error to me
 
how??
 
1. You did a major update without backups
2. or a fallback plan
or
3. Proper use education
 
12:05 PM
Say that to my 65 year old grandad...
 
Naw, its your fault
 
he had no idea what was even happening
@JourneymanGeek how is it my fault?
 
rofl. And I had trouble getting the automatic update process to work intentionally
@RahulBasu If its your problem, its your fault.
 
meh...
 
More seriously
is this a DIY or prebuilt machine?
 
12:07 PM
prebuilt
also OLD
so it doesn't run windows 10 well...
 
Might be able to get media, and the key and reinstall
....
That's a bit funny
 
Windows 8 machines hardly ever shipped with media
 
I have 2007 era machines that ran XP/vista stock...
@RahulBasu ah hah, clever thing is I believe OEM installs have the key embedded....
 
yeah...
I HATE LENOVO NOW
lol :D
 
annnnd
most of my laptops are lenovo
and they all run windows 10
(Well with one small upgrade. SSDs everywhere)
 
12:09 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love lenovo
its just that...
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO SHIP A DAMN RECOVERY DVD...
 
I think my next 'proper' laptop will be a razer
 
nice...
 
but that's a few years ahead
 
jealous 14yr old
anyways...
 
@RahulBasu all I can say is dream big, and save them pennies.
 
12:11 PM
thanks for your help...
xD
 
@RahulBasu There's a question on doing a clean windows 8 install on a OEM system on SU
Might be handy
 
ohh... Ill look for it now...
this one?
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Q: Clean install Windows 8.1 or Windows 8 from OEM key

amoeI have recently acquired a laptop with an OEM Windows 8 product key. I am interested in a clean install of Windows 8.1. I do not have any original install media, only recovery disks, and the recovery disks perform a pre-programmed install which does not have the correct partition scheme that I ...

 
seems right
and for once, read the comments
sounds like the MCT should do what you need
 
c'mon... I always read comments
atleast.... most of the time....
 
I don't
 
12:15 PM
lol
 
This is why I'm not an angry engine of ankle destruction.
 
12:40 PM
LOL "@DavidPostill why are you shutting me down? I'm just looking for help on the Do's and Do nots, what is it are you jealous that I'll have a PhD by the age of 22? That I'm still young and you're half way or more threw your lifespan, you're the grumpy type of tech support that people hang up on."
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Q: Ethical hacking - Is this legal or not

FoxhoundOkay so within my computer science course we have an ethical hacking module We were taught how to brute force Wordpress sites running specific patches for starting out We first scanned for the web server, then the server version, then the specific version of Wordpress it was running. Then we v...

Asking for Legal opinions is off-topic, correct?
@JourneymanGeek Please can you put the above user in his place? He's not taking "off-topic" seriously.
 
1:14 PM
@DavidPostill at the park. Will take a look when I get home.
Closed and commented.
 
Thanks ;)
 
2:19 PM
http://gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com/post/136945741760
GemsFromStackExchange
Photo

1452348916
 
Oh dear. The GFSE RSS feed seems to be borked :/
 
Mogges
 
!!google Mogges
 
@Hennes Hmm
 
2:34 PM
morningses.
Aka morning
Awkae for an hour. Did dishes, vacuum cleaned two room, aired home, make coffee (still needs drinking). Turn on PC and VTC...
I might be a tad cranky until I have had my coffee. :)
 
Now tearing apart my new desktop to insert the cover plate before remounting the motherboard.
Classic 'too damn fast. Stop and think first' failure
 
!!s/thing/think/
 
@DavidPostill Now tearing apart my new desktop to insert the cover plate before remounting the motherboard. Classic 'too damn fast. Stop and think first' failure (source)
 
o0
Oh, don't star this, but I'm unlikely to have access to a proper PC from the 11th to the 18th.
(or should that be pinned)
 
Bob
2:42 PM
@JourneymanGeek maybe
 
I may not have access to a proper PC from the 11th to the 18th. Any pings related to moderation during that period, outside extremely time sensitive emergencies when you know I'm here may be ignored in the order they are made.
8
There we are
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek enjoy(?) your coffee duties :P
 
;p
or musieum visits
 
Oh nice. You can use 4 pins fan headers for 3 pins fans
 
Bob
3:18 PM
Huh. Qantas is the third-oldest still-running airline in the world.
 
 
1 hour later…
4:29 PM
@Bob And Qantas has never had a fatal jet airliner accident ;)
"As it has in the past two years, in 2016 Australian carrier Qantas comes out on top of the 407 airlines the group monitors and evaluates. AirlineRatings.com noted that “the world’s oldest continuously operating airline has amassed an extraordinary record of firsts in operations and safety,” including a fatality-free record"
"Top of the list for the third year is Australia’s Qantas, which has a fatality free record in the jet era – an extraordinary record."
 
Bob
@DavidPostill Flight 32 was a close one :\
Flight 1 was, too...
 
posted on January 09, 2016

So much for “checking it twice”.

 
Bob
 
5:14 PM
In Manhattan. Security is scarily tight
Cops everywhere. Assault rifles.
 
@allquixotic Something going down?
"25-year-old NYPD police officer shot in leg, three in critical after shootout in the Bronx"
 
Nope nothing going down just regular NY high security
 
Bob
o.O
 
5:30 PM
Is GemsFromStackExchange associated with StackExchange in any way??
 
Bob
@RahulBasu Nup.
 
then why does GFSE keep spitting out these links?
 
Bob
Operated by @Sathya, who is also (unrelatedly) a mod on SU, but it is not affiliated with the SE company in any way.
@RahulBasu Because someone decided to add it as a feed for this room.
 
Ohh...
thanks.
 
Bob
SE is also not affiliated with xkcd, and we added that feed.
 
5:31 PM
ok... I get it
 
Bob
As a chatroom owner, I can add more feeds. Though I don't know if I can do that with a special user...
 
So you own RootAccess o_O
?
 
Bob
@RahulBasu There are a few people who are considered a "room owner".
 
ohhh
thanks for explaining all that...
 
Bob
Most of us were added over time. One was added automatically since the original room creator was inactive for a while.
 
5:35 PM
I'm kinda new to how all this works
 
Bob
We have less privileges than actual mods, but we can do more than normal users.
 
Ah...
#NewAimInLife
 
Bob
I can edit the room description. Temporarily mute-kick a problematic user. Edit the room feeds. Edit access controls (limited - technically can make it read-only, but I'm not supposed to for a major site room). Pin messages on the starwall. And move messages between rooms I own.
...I think that's about it.
If you create a new chatroom you will be room owner for that room by default. You can then add other people as owners.
 
okey dokey...
 
@DavidPostill - Yes; Asking if something is legal or ethical is outside of the scope
We can't say if something is legal only if it violates say a EULA in most cases. We can't say something is unethical because an ethical action is determined by society and either accepted or ignored by indivuals
 
Bob
5:38 PM
@Ramhound There has been a limited exception re: EULAs for large/popular pieces of software - especially Windows.
 
@Ramhound Yes, pretty much what I thought.
 
@Bob - I took that into account. We can provide the terms of the license in say the case of Windows. Saying literally it is legal or not legal, if you are not an actual lawyer, is a problem in most regions of the world including the US.
Which is the reason people disclose they are not lawyers if they provide their "expert" opinion with regards to a legal topic
 
Anonymous
@Bob but site mods (diamonds) still can edit your chatroom if you base it in their site, right?
 
Bob
@Ramhound Ya. Interpretation and enforceability (when untested in court) is never guaranteed to be correct.
But we also don't close those Qs as off-topic, usually.
 
Anonymous
@Bob contract law is hard
 
Bob
5:41 PM
And whether <X> is allowed by the terms of the licence can be fairly clear-cut sometimes (e.g. "Can I install Windows in a VM")
@PatoSáinz Any network mod has full control over every chatroom on the entire network.
And that's actually a bit problematic at times, though it does come with its own advantages.
 
It really isn't. Since the only contract law we would care about is EULA, which in most cases, have been upheld to be legal in a court of law ( in most regions of the world) we can answers "is this legal" by looking at the EULA.
 
Bob
Anyway, in the event that a mod "goes rogue", that's when you can try to bring it above them to the SE team.
I don't think that's happened yet.
 
I almost forgot why I even came in here ;$
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A: Is it possible to install programs onto a network drive?

MouseGames123No, It does not usually work, although you could install it as '\SEVER\Shared\Apps\YourApp.exe' and if you have a share network drive (S: - \SEVER\Shared), you could run the app from S:\Apps

 
Bob
Some friction recently, but nothing insane.
 
Is something like that a comment or is it close enough to an answer I should just skip it?
 
5:44 PM
seRver
Why can I spot other peoples typos but not my own. Weird brain
 
Anonymous
@Bob yea I forgot that part (and problems, heh, The Comms Room used to have them weekly)
 
Bob
@PatoSáinz See the Lounge<C++> drama on MSE...
 
Anonymous
@Bob link please
 
Bob
@Ramhound Wait, why did barlop tag me? O_O (if that was me)
 
?
 
Bob
5:46 PM
@Ramhound IMO, it's a poor answer.
 
Anonymous
@Ramhound a contract can't contradict law in the first place
 
Anonymous
for example, at least here in Chile, it's illegal to unilaterally change the terms of a contract
 
Bob
@Ramhound I meant the "@Bob" in his answer :P
 
Anonymous
so "we can change our EULA, ToS without prior notice" is bullshit (granted, they are based on the US thus they follow US law)
 
@PatoSáinz - That isn't true. A contract can be invalid. A party can believe a clause is unenforceable by law. Until it is challenged....Its binding
 
Bob
5:47 PM
@PatoSáinz Then one wonders what happens if a contract includes a clause that attempts to allow that. Does it invalidate just that clause? The whole contract? What is the contract stipulates that the clause only applies where it is legally allowed?
 
But they give you a chance to agree or disagree with the change
 
Anonymous
@Ramhound no, most services don't let you delete your account
 
You agree they can change the terms, provided they give you notice, and they do in most cases.
 
Bob
@PatoSáinz They cannot legally act as if you agreed. Whether that means setting a flag identifying your account as not applicable for <new contract terms> or removing the account entirely doesn't matter.
 
@PatoSáinz - Removal of your account is an entirely separate matter then changing the EULA given notice.
 
5:49 PM
@PatoSáinz
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Q: Request for community attention on a moderator's behavior

user3886129It has come to a handful of people's attention that at least some of the newly elected moderators might not be exactly up to challenge. Here's a message that very clearly demonstrates this incompetence, that was a result of a particular argument that appeared in one of the SO chatrooms: Madar...

 
Anonymous
@Ramhound IANAL, but I don't think you can do what you want by adding clauses that limit the protections given by law
 
You agreeing with the EULA and removal of your account are two separate actions.
@PatoSáinz - You see our mobile phone contracts here in the states?
 
Anonymous
@Ramhound heh termination of service charges
 
If you want service you agree to binding arbitration. You basically give up your ability to take somebody into court.
 
Bob
If the only way in their systems to exclude you from, say, new data sharing terms, is to delete your account, then they must do so.
Otherwise they're violating the original contract that you agreed to.
 
5:50 PM
Taking somebody court isn't a right though. So thats a bad example
@Bob - Yep; Exactly
If they don't provide a way and you don't agree with a chance. You can take them to court in most cases ( or binding arbitration )
 
Bob
However, they could just set a flag on your account saying "don't share this guy's data".
That's also valid.
 
Anonymous
contract law is hard
 
Provide there are no other clauses that you deem acceptable
 
Bob
So disagreeing with a contract does not imply deletion, though that's probably the most common way.
 
@PatoSáinz - Again; It really isn't.
Once you understand the elements of what makes a contract valid at least
 
Anonymous
5:52 PM
@Ramhound yea but add to that the UCC and prior jurisprudence
 
Anonymous
and then you have a maze, a very fun maze but a maze nonetheless
 
Is the legal part of a contract complicated sure. Understanding if a contract is enforceable isn't "hard" though
 
Anonymous
@Ramhound ah right but contract law includes both
 
Bob
@Ramhound Except that it depends on precedent.
We still don't know if a "shrink-wrap EULA" or a "click-through EULA" is legally valid in many places.
Simply because it has never come to court, nor been codified in any legislation.
 
Anonymous
you thought the javascript specs were hard to read? then try the USC!
 
5:55 PM
I can't think of case where they have not been withheld in a court of law.
 
Bob
@Ramhound "not been withheld"?
 
upheld
enforced
 
"upheld"?
 
Anonymous
lol
 
Bob
5:58 PM
 
6:47 PM
posted on January 09, 2016

Reciting Leviticus 3:22 on Christianity.SE.

 
7:10 PM
best xkcd EVER.
 
Anonymous
@RahulBasu did you go leftmost in your hoverboard?
 
ohhhh
nice
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
hahaha
 
Bob
Huh, nice. Also supports tilt on mobile.
 
Anonymous
@MichaelFrank gotta love topology
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
there you go
 
@PatoSáinz hahahahha
@Bob xkcd thinks of everything!
 
@Bob @RahulBasu though I own gems from Stack Exchange, most of the contributions are from community members, I just approve them
 
7:42 PM
@Sathya okay!
Minor Doubt: Is StackExchange one word??
 
no, it's Stack Exchange
 
ohh...
ive been writing it wrong for like 2 years...
:(
 
yeah...
so its Super User and not SuperUser?
 
8:05 PM
yea
see "Proper Use of the Stack Exchange Name"
 
8:17 PM
Wow. the disk with the clean install from my old core2 laptop booted in the skylake system.
Most hw not found. Generic VGA etc etc, but it booted.
This really surprised me. I expected it to fail
 
8:52 PM
@DavidPostill But
> Frankly, if it were up to me, I'd freeze the whole room and be done with it. The C++ Lounge has been getting away with completely unacceptable and unprofessional behavior for years. I welcome the members of the Stack Overflow community to read the last few days of the transcript from the Lounge and to give us a reason why this chatroom should be allowed to continue.
@JourneymanGeek Why???
 
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