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12:41 AM
ooh
mondo/mindi has a update for fedora 21
 
Bob
soooo
internet connection down at work
 
1:21 AM
Ahh. Do you feel a disturbance in the force like a thousand programmers crying out in horror?
 
Bob
that's a bloody long eta
 
1:43 AM
@JourneymanGeek Offline copy of SO ftw
 
Bob
oh look it's back
 
 
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3:04 AM
rethinkrobotics.com/build-a-bot/baxter should i get the extended warrenty or not ?
 
I would assume not ;p
Oh... maybe
 
0_0
I'm indian and I've never heard of this.
 
4:36 AM
I would be reluctant to buy anything from any group of people selling such a thing, they have neither morals or sence musicdirect.com/…;
more digital optical audio voodoo musicdirect.com/…; from the same distribution. Could be you can buy stuff like this for a Coffee Table conversation piece , hours of laughs in a single fraud.
 
5:02 AM
 
 
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6:07 AM
 
Bob
uhhh
 
6:29 AM
oh fun. I'm the only guy who knows windows troubleshooting here. Yay.
I really need to get a windows box here ;p
 
Bob
@allquixotic Speaking of user-agent-sniffing, FUCK OFF GOOGLE
 
0_0
Were we?
 
Bob
(their JS maps API decides streetview rendering mode by user agent.)
(in non-webgl modes, terrible parallax. straight roads look like 90 degree curves)
 
ahh
annnd?
ah hah!
 
Bob
(let's see... firefox 35, all roads look like shit. chrome, looks fine. firefox with chrome UA, looks fine.)
(therefore: fuck you google, fuck you)
...
it even performs webgl rendering with an IE11 UA
@JourneymanGeek maybe a day or two ago :P
IIRC @ThatBrazilianGuy.
Similar issue, though with a third-party site.
Still absolute bullshit.
 
6:51 AM
I been using this - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.143 Safari/537.36 - agent string someone posted, have no idea how the web stuff sees it, but life is better with it.
I did not know you could make combos :-) or how anything parsing what it is your (supposedly) using, parses first.
 
Bob
pile of steaming horse shit
"Marking as fixed based on comment #21 and issue with original examples now working."
now working my arse
enabled for Chrome/OSX, great. what about the other three browser combinations in the original post?
 
I always thought it was odd how many different ways the same web stuff (general) can be displayed, depending on the browser your using at the time. As if I somehow expected people making the websites to test how it looked on different browsers before releacing it.
 
Bob
Worst part is, we're actually paying them for this broken crap.
 
the variations are almost Analog :-)
Which makes me wonder if we really needed high precision after the decimal.
Things are not 1 pixel off , or 1 pixel wrong, or a few digits of color different, like analog, no this is digital , it can be way way off :-) Like the horrid color on many cheap LED LCD screens. all that perfection and precision, can be destroyed at any points in the stream.
All the talk 20 years ago , about how digital would be a perfect 1-1 always, yet even a different decoding codec, a different 3d render method, or a different way of interpreting a piece of code at the client. Some stuff is so far off from 1-1 , making the digital promises they made . . . dependant.
All the consumer cameras are on the bleeding edge, still bleeding on the edges because of overcompressed jpeg
How do you mix a 3D rendered interpolation surface, redisplayed on 2d surface , with a sub-pixel text render?
 
7:52 AM
Cripes i cant believe I watched all that. "Revolution" the tv show about (basically) all the power going out across the globe. Ended hard :-( you would think they would turn the lights off before they left.
 
8:05 AM
site down in my area of Australia
back up, but slow
 
blah, having a super wierd issue with a windows box at work. Its a dual monitor system and only one monitor is working, and after we upgraded the driver its the secondary
 
Primary or secondary gets assigned when plugged and stored in registry. AMDs stuff with the latests drivers actually allows changing it after the fact now. But then it burps and can switch them ?? So for them they fixed the fact that you had to go to the regitry to change it, then it ended up being a tiny bit buggy.
registry
 
8:33 AM
Change that, they always allowed primary and secondary to change, it was what is designated as 1&2 , that OCD thing where 1 should also be primary. Although it does not have to be.
 
9:12 AM
superuser.com/questions/875546/… <--- colon cleanse anyone?
 
9:28 AM
Gone!
 
9:58 AM
I really wonder sometimes about what people did to earn a 10 year ban stackoverflow.com/users/2665694/andreas-jung
 
10:46 AM
bad very bad ;-) after being a user for 5 years with lots of rep
 
a decade long suspension is essentially a ban here 0_0
Eh. Slightly tired. I'm not too bad for someone who's been up since 4 am or so ;p
 
11:14 AM
This is one of my favorite bug reports yet: youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WEB-15139 drives me insane
I've been using that software for 2 years now, the issue has always been present but I was always too lazy to write a proper report
I bet they won't fix it because it would be a breaking change
!!xkcd 1172
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil Lose the hat, xmas is over!
 
11:48 AM
Eh. Was the driver and a undocumented quirk of our install only one guy knew about
 
Bob
urk
damn shipping costs
 
12:09 PM
they raised shipping costs when gas prices went high, forgot to lower them again when the gas prices went back down. I hate when that (always) happens.
I call it price ratcheting.
 
12:23 PM
superuser.com/users/351051/user3725003 <--- hmm, did this guy make a miseak, and show up as a spammer? At first he makes subtle recommend for "efficientcalendar.com" , now asks in question about "www.efficientnotes.com" seems a bit fishey.
and his only other rep on the other sites is similar, as if there is only one thing he has interest in discussing.
oh definate, because at productivitySE he recommends it (notes), then on here he asks if it is any good.
 
 
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1:50 PM
meh. I gave mondorescue a shot annnnd... it crashed.
 
Bob
currently waging war on flies
haven't seen one all summer
suddenly...
well... I've caught 9 the last 6hrs
there's another one here somewhere
wtf is going on
 
Well it's Australia ;p
I do suppose reddit exaggerates things a bit
 
2:10 PM
Halp! I need to find USB extensions like this one: eud.dx.com/product/…
...but from a vendor that doesn't need a year to deliver
That is the important bit
All I can find are these:
 
A noobish js question
I have an JS object as var image = {name:"Hello",url="http://xxx.xxx"};
Now how do I define an array of image
Can I do var image = [{name:"Hello",url="http://xxx.xxx"},{name:"ddd",url=ss.ss";}];
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Price range?
@HackToHell ya
 
@Bob Below 20EUR would be nice ;)
 
Bob
but ideally you create a prototype thingo
 
Important factor is how fast I can have it in my hands and that it's as small as possible
 
2:19 PM
@Bob What's that
 
Bob
var Image = function() {
};

var anImage = new Image();
Where that function is effectively a constructor
so you could have
var Image = function(name, url) {
    this.name = name;
    this.url = url;
}
var anImage = new Image(name, url);
var images = [new Image(name, url), new Image(name, url)];
 
posted on February 09, 2015

can anyone give this guy ‘one big data’? plz? kthx bai.

 
Bob
That's primarily useful if you want to define methods (Image.prototype.methodName = function() {};)
But it also lets you check the type later (anImage instanceof Image)
 
@Bob oooh
okay
 
Bob
You could just have anything that "looks like" an "image" be accepted.
If you go the class/prototype way:
function isImage(obj) {
    return obj instanceof Image;
}
If you go the duck typing way:
function isImage(obj) {
    return obj.name !== undefined && obj.url !== undefined;
}
It's up to you which way you choose.
Both have advantages and disadvantages.
 
2:23 PM
This Javascript's no type of variables thing is making debugging hell
i should probably prototype everything
 
Bob
Maybe any functions you use that accept an Image also accept the plain object and auto-casts them before use.
That's what the Google Maps JS API does, btw
Anything that accepts a LatLng also accepts any object with a lat and lng property
@OliverSalzburg That's a nice large price range :P
 
Okay, I'll keep it in mind. I better add this to OneNote
 
Bob
I'd say monoprice, but... well, I was looking at ordering something from them earlier
 
I'll forget it otherwise ;p
 
Bob
2 hours ago, by Bob
urk
2 hours ago, by Bob
damn shipping costs
$40 shipping
 
2:26 PM
monoprice's non US shipping is steep
 
Bob
at least it's fast O_O
@OliverSalzburg Don't you have a German Amazon?
@JourneymanGeek Ya.
It'd really have to be a bulk order.
I'm hoping I can convince @allquixotic to test one of their 2m USB cables for me :P
Happy to pay for it. Just don't want to spend $40 shipping on a dud. Or 20 duds.
Monoprice intra-US shipping can't be more than $10?
 
@Bob Sure
 
@Bob That's not the right one
 
2:29 PM
@Bob: heh. Slightly tempted to order the speakers I want off amazon eventually. It would be free shipping, but I'm not sure if those use a SMPS.
 
Bob
o.O
 
I need A-A
 
Bob
Ohhh
 
But I think my co-worker just found some
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Wait, both sides A?
 
2:29 PM
hmm tempted to use orchestrate.io instead of setting up a databse server
 
Bob
One side female?
 
It's free and all ;p
 
@OliverSalzburg: I tend to have those from the dark ages time when USB drives didn't use the proper mini or micro cables.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek You could always ask :P
 
@Bob: Actually...
I think @OliverSalzburg has those same speakers ;p
 
Bob
2:30 PM
@JourneymanGeek I really want some good Micro USB cables -_-
As in, 2m. 24 AWG or better. Connectors that last longer than a week.
 
(story of my life. INVARIABLY someone gets stuff I want, before I do, on my recommendation ;p)
 
Bob
No idea where to get them from.
Monoprice sounds good, buuuuuut shipping
 
@Bob Yes, it should be an extension
 
@Bob: If I ever come across them I'll let you know
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek thanks :P
 
2:31 PM
At some point I'm pondering getting a few more purple audio cables.
 
Bob
 
(specific brand DX sells, they're cheap and solid... and every other cable made by that brand is the same shade of purple)
@Bob: IIRC amazon US is free shipping over 200 USD or something to here
 
Bob
Yea, sorry if I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the AU Amazon.
@JourneymanGeek So... Amazon has the same Monoprice cables for 4x the price, but 1/4x the shipping :P
 
Orchestrate's better than a db ;p github.com/orchestrate-io/orchestrate.js
 
2:42 PM
@Bob That one would have been perfect. I couldn't find any like that on German Amazon
 
Bob
@HackToHell It's a key-value store.
Completely different from a RDB.
 
And the only other sites that sold them were located in China with delivery times ~1 month
 
@Bob Yeah it's like nosql
 
All i need to do is store the array in the db
So that's enough for now :O
 
Bob
2:43 PM
@OliverSalzburg ~7-11 day shipping isn't too bad.
Or 2-day, but that'll blow your budget
 
@Bob We need them yesterday, as always
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Well, if you need multiple the 2-day Amazon might still work out cheaper :P
Ah well.
 
So, yeah, you're right. Would have been only slightly more expensive, but USB 3.0
But the device we need them for doesn't have 3.0, so it would have been a future investment
Thanks for your help though
 
> I'm a computer and tech enthusiast. Have any questions or concerns about my contributions? Let me know on chat. Oh, and I eat spam(mers) for lunch. *roar*
From my updated user card.
 
@Bob Last Friday, WhatsApp web.
 
2:54 PM
Have you guys ever seen RJ45 patch panels with RJ45 sockets on both sides? So that you can use off-the-shelf cables (with connectors on each side)?
That seems interesting
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg I know they exist, and I might be getting one at some point :P
 
I wonder if there's a specific name for something like that
 
Bob
Our house was wired with cat6, but all the cables just come out of the wall in one room.
Need to get a proper patch panel in there.
 
This is the one on ebay: ebay.com/itm/…
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg "female to female patch panel"?
 
2:58 PM
Apparently there's the "keystone system"
 
Bob
"feedthrough"?
 
A keystone module is a standardized snap-in package for mounting a variety of low-voltage electrical jacks or optical connectors into a keystone wall plate, face plate, surface-mount box, or a patch panel. Keystone modules have a rectangular face of 14.5 mm wide by 16.0 mm high and are held in place with flexible tabs. This allows them to be snapped into a mounting plate with correspondingly-sized rectangular holes, called ports. All keystones, regardless of the type of jack they carry, are interchangeable and replaceable. This provides much flexibility in arranging and mounting many different...
 
Bob
Ya, feedthrough seems to be the generic name.
 
I'm learning some amazing stuff today ;D
 
you'll also need a crimper for it
 
3:00 PM
Blah According to Orchestrate, this is not valid JSON
[
   {
      "name":"hello",
      "url":"http://loopp.exe"
   },
   {
      "name":"pool",
      "url":"http://lopss"
   }
]
HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Content-Type: application/json
X-ORCHESTRATE-REQ-ID: 5369d9c0-b06c-11e4-8486-069834dbfc8b


{
"message": "The API request is malformed.",
"details": {
"info": "Content must be a valid JSON object."
},
"code": "api_bad_request"
}

:/
Wait, me thinks the square brackets might be causing the error
yep, pasting their own request back works
But according to online JSON validators the above format is correct
It's the output of JSON.stringify()
 
Bob
JSON object
shrug
 
ah
;p
.parse() ftw
 
Bob
Look at what format their API expects
i.e. RTM :P
 
AAAAAAA F$%# MY WORK NETWORK
 
Bob
o.O
 
3:05 PM
@mrg2k8 No, not having to need one is exactly why we're looking into those
 
> All values must be valid JSON.
 
Apparently the correct term for the patch panel tool is
A punch down tool, also called a punchdown tool or a krone tool (named after the KRONE LSA-PLUS connector), is a small hand tool used by telecommunication and network technicians. It is used for inserting wire into insulation-displacement connectors on punch down blocks, patch panels, keystone modules, and surface mount boxes (also known as biscuit jacks). == Description and use == Most punch down tools are of the impact type, consisting of a handle, an internal spring mechanism, and a removable slotted blade. To use the punch down tool, a wire is pre-positioned into a slotted post on a punch block...
Interesting
 
That's all they said ;p
> JSON.parse(JSON.stringify(image))
Still doesn't return a JSON obejct
 
@Bob ? *reads up*
 
Bob
@allquixotic The first ping was a rant about Google doing UA sniffing,
@allquixotic The second ping was about Monoprice cables :P
It costs $40+ to ship here, so there isn't much point in buying less than bulk (20+ cables).
I'm not sure about buying 20+ untested cables.
 
3:13 PM
Ah nvm, I can't push arrays
 
Bob
So, I was wondering if I could buy one for you to test :P
 
I have to change the key values ;p
 
@Bob normally I'd say yes, but dad has been giving me shit for ordering too much stuff online lately ;/ even if I'm not paying for it, it'd be weird to explain
 
Bob
Ah.
Was it the SSD? :P
 
Blah even after that it's not working
Arrays are supposed to work
 
3:23 PM
@Bob among others
and it seems all my mail directed to my office at work goes to /dev/trash
 
Bob
o.O
 
it's a valid mailing address but it never reaches me
unless it's stashed in some room in a mailbox I wasn't informed I had
 
Top level has to be an object apparently
 
Bob
@allquixotic tried asking the receptionist (if there is one)?
@JourneymanGeek ^
 
@Bob hahahahaha...... we have no receptionist :D too cheap
@Bob I love it haha
 
4:04 PM
Haven't touched Borderlands TPS in a while
I've nearly lost track of where I am
Good thing I have decent commit messages in the Git repository
(Yes, I keep some of my game saves in an SCM)
sigh
32nd level Lawbringer, Chapter 10 in Normal Mode
 
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Q: PC permenently freezes in unusual pattern

NaxerI have read many of threads about this issue yet none of them seem to be the same as mine. Let me first tell you a short story of my PC. It served me quite many years (5 maybe). During that time it had few things replaced. Right now everything except hard disk is replaced. For few months I had a...

 
BGM
4:24 PM
Hello, everyone.
Anyone have a moment to help me remove an uninstallable IRST?
 
posted on February 09, 2015

friebnds, Robmans, counbtrymen, linix wan use?

 
4:42 PM
@BGM urgh... busy at work.... and little/no experience with IRST
 
BGM
@allquixotic okay, well thanks for being willing.
@DragonLord you still there?
 
Yes?
 
BGM
I'd like to wrap this up, if you are willing.
 
I'm stumped myself.
I suppose it would be better if you asked a question on the main site.
 
BGM
HEy! I got the paperclip guy for that statement.
You know, I've got bad luck on this site.
I get trolled all the time here.
 
4:45 PM
I saw you guys talking about the IRST thing before but I don't know the full back story on it
 
BGM
If you don't mind, let me run this by you first, then if you still are not sure, I'll ask.
 
given the amount of effort that's been put into it so far, I'm tempted to say reinstall the OS
 
BGM
Where I am right now is that there is IRST 11 on my computer but I cannot uninstall it.
 
Hi everyone
 
BGM
@allquixotic no way - I can't do that. I'd give up on IRST first.
@DragonLord When I run the uninstaller, it shows, but after I click next to begin, the process ends.
 
4:47 PM
I'm facing a strange problem in an ubuntu server 14.04.1 LTS VM.
I'm trying to use the avconv tool for converting some videos. After the installation for some minutes it works, after that If I try to execute the avconv command I get this error: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
 
BGM
So version 11 has no running service, nor even a service in the services list.
There are no running iastor processes or services.
So I am thinking it isn't even really installed.
Geek uninstaller will find there are registry keys for it.
I could remove those and delete the old version 11 files in program files folder.
Then actually install a new version.
Does that sound reasonable?
 
@BGM I think it comes with a driver too
have to make sure that isn't installed either
 
BGM
@allquixotic there ia an iaStorA driver
that is running
and an iastorV driver that is stopped.
 
@jithujose check dmesg and /var/log/messages for anything weird about ATA transfers or the like... could be a FS or storage issue
 
BGM
and an iastor driver (for AHCI) that is running.
 
4:52 PM
if it's VirtualBox I'm not going to say anything else other than that VirtualBox is fundamentally and badly broken and you should use different virtual machine software
@BGM I'm pretty sure regular old iastor is not part of the IRST thing, it's just the AHCI driver for the disk
 
I am running it in proxmox on a local server
@allquixotic
 
@BGM Being unable to reinstall your OS hints at a more fundamental problem (such as no backups?) which probably needs to be resolved... the fact is, the OS sometimes gets hosed up. Even if it's a significant time sink to do so, you should be able to reinstall at any point.
 
BGM
@allquixotic The problem is time. I don't have time to do that.
 
@jithujose okay, so you're not using a badly broken hypervisor... anyway, check the logs
 
BGM
@DragonLord Would I get into trouble by removing the entry in Windows for the uninstaller?
 
4:56 PM
@BGM removing all traces of IRST in the registry is fine, as long as you are able to identify and remove all other traces of IRST as well
if you're able to remove enough stuff that the installer to put it back in is successful, then you're done
 
BGM
There are files in program files (x86) relating to it.
 
otherwise you'd have to keep removing things it touched with its many tendrils until it's happy enough to install
 
@allquixotic: Do you find anything wrong in this dmesg output?
https://gist.github.com/jithujose/cfdf563347027130333f
 
BGM
@allquixotic oh, I can run a new installer with no problem.
I just can run the uninstaller for the old version.
maybe I should try to reinstall the old version...
maybe then I could get the uninstaller to remove it.
 
@jithujose that looks fine, actually...
are you able to repeatably fix the problem by reinstalling avconv from the packages?
 
4:59 PM
yes
 
which packages? Ubuntu official?
 
I tried backing up the avconv binary file and that too works
I installed it with apt-get install libav-tools
 
ok, do this: reinstall avconv; run md5sum /usr/bin/avconv immediately; then wait for it to break; then run md5sum /usr/bin/avconv again; see if it changes. if the sum changes, then try examining the file contents with a text editor; see if it's overwritten by something.
this is sounding like some kind of system process (maybe a virus scanner) is determining that the file is bad and breaking it
if the contents of the file appear to be "gibberish" even after it's overwritten by the virus scanner, then the next thing I'd want to determine is whether the file is overwritten with the same contents every time, or if the contents are randomized/modified
 
@allquixotic let me do it
 
to determine if the contents are overwritten with something random or consistent, you would run md5sum again on /usr/bin/avconv after it has been overwritten, and repeat that process more than once
it may also be informative to compare the file size of /usr/bin/avconv before and after the overwrite
 
5:11 PM
@OliverSalzburg Yes, my mistake.
 
@allquixotic It's still running... I don't have any virus scanners installed in this vm
 
BGM
@DragonLord okay, so I reinstalled version 11.0.32 which I had before.
 
Can you remove it now?
 
BGM
Now I see that IRST is registered with the Intel Control Center - which it wasn't before.
AND the IRST panel loads.
AND there is only one version installed.
So I'm going to try and uninstall it.
 
Uninstall IRST, reboot, then install IRST version 13.1.
 
BGM
5:23 PM
The uninstaller worked this time.
 
After installing IRST 13.1, take a system restore point, make the registry changes, switch to RAID mode, and set up Smart Response.
Let me know once you get to the IRST control panel after switching to RAID mode.
 
@allquixotic, it's so strange... it's still not broken..
 
5:39 PM
@jithujose does it only break when you run it? maybe your shell script is causing some data to be written to /usr/bin/avconv?
 
There is a beanstalkd worker which uses the avconv command
it breaks randomly
 
@jithujose is it running as root? is /usr/bin/avconv owned by root/root and set to 755?
 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 131080 Aug 10 2014 avconv
 
ok, but is the beanstalkd worker running as root?
(or beanstalkd itself)
 
 
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http://gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com/post/110556376476
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BGM
8:11 PM
@DragonLord Say, do I need to format that SSD disk to NTFS, or will IRST do it for me?
Never mind. I formatted it to NTFS
 
Advice needed - Good eBook to listen to for an 8 hour trip? Or two...
 
Sure taking a long time to connect... Thanks though @allquixotic
 
BGM
8:42 PM
@DragonLord Haha! The problem was a mismatched driver. Also, version 11 was 32bit. I installed both the application and driver for 64 bit 13.1. Now in the IRST panel I have "Create volume" which I never had before. I've set the RAID options and the registry settings.
Also, IRST service was set to "delayed startup" and I set it to just "automatic".
 
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