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Q: What is serial voting and how does it affect me?

Cody GrayI just noticed that I lost a bunch of points from my reputation score on Stack Overflow, and I used the "reputation" tab on my user profile page to try and track down the cause. During my investigation, I noticed there was an unusual event of type "reversal". In the normal place of a question ti...

If the condition persists and you've waited more than 24 hours, please contact Stack Exchange directly (investigation of suspicious voting patterns involves personal information which cannot be disclosed under the Privacy Policy; votes are intended to be anonymous, so the association between votes and users is protected personal information).
 
huh, since when was associating users with votes personal information? it's not like SE is protected under HIPAA
 
12:17 AM
all I see are a bunch of removed messages. what were you trying to tell me?
 
Checked the privacy policy, votes by themselves do not constitute personal information because they are anonymized. Not sure about the association between votes and the users that casted them, however.
 
I think you're trying to argue whether they're confidential, not whether they are personal info
 
12:47 AM
Hmm.. wondering how many hacks it would take to get some sort of V86 to run natively on a 64-bit machine..
how did the guys at v86-64.sourceforge.net do it?
and the wine devs?
hmm, it's virtualized..
 
@oldmud0 x86 virtualization isn't exactly easy when done entirely in software. It doesn't meet the Popek and Goldberg virtualization requirements in the absence of hardware assistance (which fortunately is available on nearly all x86-64 processors today).
 
still, one day I would like to just double-click on a 16-bit application and just have it run, without having to start up DOSBox, set up the drives, change to the dir I want, ....
 
Running 16-bit real-mode applications on an x64 processor in long mode requires a virtual machine.
 
sure, that's reasonable. but how could you make that as seamless as possible?
 
Probably needs a kernel-mode driver.
 
12:55 AM
Yep
and everybody is waiting for that day that one developer decides to make a kernel-mode driver for NTVDM64
/me googles NTVDM64
 
When you click on an executable, Windows tries to execute it. You'd need to intercept the internal error condition that causes the "This app can't run on your PC" error and launch the virtual machine to execute the software. You'd probably need to write kernel-mode code to do this.
Not too familiar with how Windows launches applications, but you'd probably have to intercept the return value or result of CreateProcess(), check the error, and launch the VM after determining that the application is 16-bit real mode.
Else, you'd have to intercept the CreateProcess() call, check the application binary, launch the VM if it's 16-bit, and allow CreateProcess() to proceed otherwise.
Well, it looks like you can hook CreateProcess() in user mode, but it looks awfully like malware activity and may be blocked by antimalware software.
Guess I was wrong with some of the earlier comments.
3 mins ago, by DragonLord
Else, you'd have to intercept the CreateProcess() call, check the application binary, launch the VM if it's 16-bit, and allow CreateProcess() to proceed otherwise.
^ This is probably the answer, and it would be done in user mode.
 
1:27 AM
which could be entirely possible in kernel mode right?
 
Not so sure.
Programming in user mode is much easier, though.
 
But can get hacky
Can you tamper with the kernel completely from user mode?
 
Hang on. I've got an answer to write.
 
I hate when kaspersky does the random rootkit scans. It kills my hard drive
And I use my computer every day so I don't have time to defrag
 
1:42 AM
0
A: Why is my Seagate USB 3.0 drive showing corrupted data when plugged as an internal SATA drive?

DragonLordThe enclosure exposes the drive to the computer as an Advanced Format 4Kn device. This allows the use of MBR in order to retain compatibility with Windows XP systems. When the drive is removed from the enclosure, the change in logical sector format results in an invalid partition table. Externa...

External hard drives >2 TB in capacity do some pretty weird things to maintain compatibility with Windows XP.
 
2:12 AM
I think I have an idea for the Super User Blog: Hard drive enclosures performing 512e to 4Kn conversion.
@allquixotic: meow
 
Write it. We need more blog posts ;p
 
Is @IvoFlipse available?
@JourneymanGeek, are you able to approve blog posts?
 
@DragonLord can you expand on what you mean by "512e to 4kn conversion"?
I'm interested in those words but for a different reason. I have a hardware RAID array (RAID-10) originally created by an Adaptec 6405E, which only supports 512e. Now I have an 8805, which supports 4kn. The disks themselves are 4kn, but the sector size is still 512 because that's how they were initialized. Any way to convert without reformatting?
 
2:28 AM
I'm working on it.
The drive is 512e when connected directly to a computer. However, the enclosure makes the drive appear to be 4Kn.
Answer updated.
 
@DragonLord Not as far as I know
hm
meta.stackexchange.com/a/267752/135565 actually a more detailed, handholdy answer than I'd planned, but no one can say us mods don't make the effort ;)
 
2:46 AM
Oct 6 at 19:54, by Michael Frank
@xCare Remember, it's not a competition! Nobody that matters realllllly cares about a users rep. Quality over quantity.
Oct 6 at 23:24, by DragonLord
@MichaelFrank This is the philosophy behind every answer I write. I don't post an answer unless I can actually answer the question definitively.
Oct 6 at 23:42, by Michael Frank
@DragonLord Which really sucks when you know the answer, but you don't have the time to write it all down. :P
I fear this is holding me back.
 
3:03 AM
@DragonLord: Its not a contest
I typically write a blog entry over months
 
3:19 AM
Took me a while to write this interesting query
I wish I could get decimal values from the post score average, though.
 
Anonymous
@Bob who needs kies when you have android debug bridge
 
Anonymous
@oldmud0 something that does subpixel rendering but not in a subtle way?
 
Why can't I get decimal values for the post score average?
SELECT
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation,
  count(*) AS PostCount,
  CAST(avg(Score) AS DECIMAL(7,2)) AS AverageScore
FROM
  Users
    INNER JOIN Posts ON (Users.Id = Posts.OwnerUserId)
GROUP BY
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation
HAVING
  count(*) >= 10
ORDER BY
  AverageScore DESC,
  PostCount DESC;
Can someone help me with the SQL here?
An aggregate function like avg() is supposed to return a decimal value even if all of its inputs are integers!
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A: Precision of aggregate function on 'INTERVAL HOUR TO MINUTE' datatype in SQL

Erwin BrandstetterAn aggregate function such as avg() has to return the general form of an interval, as the average of multiple values can lie in between. This will definitely not change in future releases. Also, the datatypes are identical internally. Just the least significant parts get truncated. The behavior ...

 
3:40 AM
@PatoSáinz I expected somebody to say Mac... :(
 
@oldmud0: I don't think anyone on at the moment has a mac ;p
 
Fixed it. I got the CAST() syntax wrong.
 
Good. I hate macs.
 
hi
any mods in?
 
yeah, journeyman
 
Anonymous
3:49 AM
@oldmud0 meaning, Mac
 
thanks.
@JourneymanGeek you there?
 
well it's not mac, it's windows
 
come to the other room when you get back
 
Here's the fixed query:
SELECT
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation,
  count(*) AS PostCount,
  format(avg(CAST(Score AS FLOAT)), '#,###.000') AS AverageScore
FROM
  Users
    INNER JOIN Posts ON (Users.Id = Posts.OwnerUserId)
GROUP BY
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation
HAVING
  count(*) >= 10
ORDER BY
  AverageScore DESC,
  PostCount DESC;
 
3:56 AM
perhaps some of you guys know the answer to this one..
If I delete an answer or question, do changes that affect points like upvotes or downvotes, favoriting, etc.. go away?
 
4:09 AM
 
@xCare most of that stuff gets refunded for the most part. if your question got downvoted to death you get your rep back, but if a mod killed your 1000 vote nice question then you lose most of it
 
Fixed a sorting bug.
-- MinPosts: Include only users with at least this many posts:
SELECT
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation,
  count(*) AS PostCount,
  FORMAT(AVG(CAST(Score AS FLOAT)), '#,###,##0.000') AS AverageScore
FROM
  Users
    INNER JOIN Posts ON (Users.Id = Posts.OwnerUserId)
GROUP BY
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation
HAVING
  count(*) >= ##MinPosts:INT##
ORDER BY
  AVG(CAST(Score AS FLOAT)) DESC,
  PostCount DESC;
 
Bob
4:40 AM
@oldmud0 It gets locked in after a while, IIRC.
 
Even better:
-- MinPosts: Include only users with at least this many posts:
-- MinAverageScore: Include only users whose posts average at least this score:
SELECT
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation,
  count(*) AS PostCount,
  FORMAT(AVG(CAST(Score AS FLOAT)), '#,###,##0.000') AS AverageScore
FROM
  Users
    INNER JOIN Posts ON (Users.Id = Posts.OwnerUserId)
GROUP BY
  DisplayName,
  Users.Id,
  Reputation
HAVING
  count(*) >= ##MinPosts:INT?10##
  AND AVG(CAST(Score AS FLOAT)) >= ##MinAverageScore:FLOAT?0##
 
@xCare: Its in the rules somewhere
let me dig it out
 
wait there are rules
 
215
Q: How does deleting work? What can cause a post to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? What are the criteria for deletion?

jjnguyWhat circumstances can cause a question or answer to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? How can a post be deleted? When can't I delete my own post? Can I see a list of my deleted posts? How can I undelete one of my posts? What does deletion mean for a post? How do votes to delete wo...

@xCare: Worth a read
 
5:00 AM
s3 or onedrive?
I have 1tb on onedrive
But s3 looks more reliable
 
5:35 AM
Windows XP is EOL, and converting 512e to 4Kn is an ugly kludge. So don't do it!
4
Q: Why is my Seagate USB 3.0 drive showing corrupted data when plugged as an internal SATA drive?

OMAI have a 3TB Seagate Backup Plus Desktop USB 3.0 drive, which works fine when in its enclosure, but when I get it off its enclosure and directly plug it as an internal SATA drive, it's just not properly recognized (it works again when used in the enclosure) When used as an internal SATA drive Wi...

There is no need or reason to support Windows XP any more!
 
Bob
6:22 AM
@DragonLord Yes there is.
Backwards compatibility never ends.
 
Sure there is. My dad dosen't want to upgrade his old XP box ;)
 
Bob
Current market share of XP is still >12%. And that's just the internet-connected ones!
That's higher than Windows 8.1. Higher than Windows 10. Higher than OS X altogether!
In an ideal world, supporting them won't be necessary.
Personally, I don't want to support them.
But that's a lot of users.
Enough that it wouldn't be a particularly smart business decision to drop them, without a good reason (no, MS dropping support is not a good enough reason for most cases).
 
7:01 AM
@Bob Many of the frontline applications we have won't work on Windows 7. Pretty good reason not to upgrade. :P
 
7:29 AM
SO... it begins
popped in a few local applications, updated my Careers.SE profile...
I do want to see if resume mkIII has more of an impact
 
Bob
7:43 AM
@JourneymanGeek Needs some epic music to go with :P
 
;p
I have NO idea why the conductor is holding a violin.
 
André Léon Marie Nicolas Rieu (born 1 October 1949) is a Dutch violinist and conductor best known for creating the waltz-playing Johann Strauss Orchestra. Together they have turned classical and waltz music into a worldwide concert touring act, as successful as some of the biggest global pop and rock music acts. For his work, Rieu has been awarded such honours as the Order of the Netherlands Lion by the Netherlands, the Knight of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres by France, and the Honorary Medal by his native Province of Limburg. == Early life == The name Rieu is of French Huguenot origin. Rieu...
@JourneymanGeek Because he's a violinist and a conductor ;)
 
8:29 AM
ahh
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I was thinking more this :P
 
8:44 AM
or for something more modern youtube.com/…
 
 
3 hours later…
11:17 AM
Oh, Andre is Dutch? For some reason I always assumed he was German.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek if you happen to want more RAM for the NUC => amazon.com/dp/B006YG8X9Y?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
 
Hmm, not a bad price.
 
Bob
Ya.
If anyone else wants a RAM upgrade for a laptop ^
 
I am not sure if I should even try to upgrade my laptop (Dell E6500)
One of these days it is going to fails. Esp. since it has the famous problem with an Nvidia GPU on the Dell motherboard.
 
11:38 AM
@Bob: my nuc is maxed out ;p
@Hennes: upgrade it with stuff you can reuse? ;p
SSDs are good there
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek 16 GB? :P
 
Bob
o.O
 
its a bay trail
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek That's not maxed out!
Replace the 4 with the 8? :P
Ohhhh CPU/chipset limits.
 
11:39 AM
yup
 
SSDs are good but unneeded for a laptop which usually runs only SSH and a browser
 
and I don't really need that much ram
and well
No upgrades until I get another job
(none's really needed anyway)
MAYBE the one plus, but that decision is getting put off until I actually get an invite
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Not Nexus? :P
 
Not really out here yet ;p
The late answers queue seems to be tamed to a huge extent. Awesome work anyone who helped clear it out!
 
@Bob Damn much cheap
I got 4 gigs for more than that
 
 
2 hours later…
1:28 PM
@JourneymanGeek thanks for the link, bookmarked and favorited. I was wondering what would happen if I deleted one of my answers or questions.
 
2:13 PM
@xCare: Probably nothing, assuming you can
too many deletions/closures results in an automatic ban of questions of that class
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Pretty sure it also depends on your overall rep.
 
Hi. I have a PC with HDD. I want to use SSD but only see 2.5". Is it really just a question of buying a metal adapter/housing so it fits in my tower?
 
Bob
Well, at least I hope so :P
@MyDaftQuestions Yea.
Just about all 2.5" drives will fit in a 3.5" bay.
 
Thanks @Bob!
 
@MyDaftQuestions: Are you still using oldschool IDE?
 
Bob
2:16 PM
Just grab a caddy. Some drives come with one.
 
@JourneymanGeek, not IDE, SATA3
 
else, just grab a caddy, plug in the same connectors you would to a normal hard drive, and bob's your long lost uncle.
Many modern cases actually have convertable bays.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I am?
 
@Bob: See? You're lost.
 
Bob
Heh, I bought a 4x 2.5" to 5.25" adapter for my new desktop SSD.
Two months ago.
It's still waiting for installation.
 
2:18 PM
OK. I assume I have install using W7 and then upgrade to W10 again if I get a new hard drive (I will likely change motherboard/CPU etc so can't clone AFAIK)? And can only do this in the first year of W10 being released to take advantage of it being free
 
@MyDaftQuestions: You could just image over
or use software that might be available for your SSD to migrate
 
@Bob , sorry, are you saying the 2.5" may fit in a 3.5" slot without the housing?
@JourneymanGeek, I didn't I think could image it over if I'm changing hardware
 
@MyDaftQuestions: It'll sit there, but you probably should get a caddy
@MyDaftQuestions: oh, all the hardware?
then, er, yeah, maybe
 
@JourneymanGeek, well, let's assume yes. I'm thinking worse case :D
 
assuming you manage to transfer the win7 licence
 
2:19 PM
This is great news, thank you @bob
and thank you @JourneymanGeek
Have great days
 
Bob
@MyDaftQuestions It will always fit. But a caddy will secure it.
Some people just tape the drive down (not so good for cooling).
My temporary SSD is just floating unsecured in a 5.25" bay :P
 
I did that with a 2.5 inch spinning rust drive. Just sat it in the bay
or on top of the bay ._.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I'm running out of bays.
5x 3.5", 4 filled with HDDs.
 
@Bob: Mine's got 6 of those, and 4 unused cd drive bays
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek 3 ODD bays here, one used so far.
Yes, it's messy.
That's my array of external HDDs :P
Yes, I have a lot of storage.
2TB, 2TB, 5TB, 1.5TB. Top three all Seagate, bottom an old WD.
All currently used for backup archives.
The shoddy cable ties are my poor attempt at keeping the cables somewhat contained.
 
2:31 PM
@Bob: I cannot recommend velcro cable ties enough
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Eh, velcro wouldn't change this situation much.
This is more-or-less a permanent installation.
(And I have some 5000 cable ties of assorted sizes I need to find uses for :P)
 
Oh look softlayer allows me to add helluva lot of disks and even create RAID groups
 
Bob
Hm. I really need to clean that corner, actually.
 
Going for a 6 TB primary SATA with a 1 TB SSD(for data)
Will be backed up to other places, should I be doing RAID ?
 
Bob
@HackToHell If you do, you certainly should not be going for a 6TB drive.
In fact, you should not be going for a single 6TB drive, period.
 
2:35 PM
Does make sense, it was pretty cheap, that's why I added it.
 
Bob
Now imagine the backup & restore times for such a large volume.
 
What level RAID should I be going with multiple 1 TB volumes ?
 
hm. What scares you the most?
 
Yep, considering the fact that network is limited at 100 Mbps, it's a bad idea
 
Loss of performance? Downtime? Loss of data?
 
Bob
2:36 PM
@HackToHell If you can afford it? RAID 10.
 
Downtime really
 
Bob
That halves your accessible storage, but is probably the most robust of the common RAID levels.
 
@Bob we get a helluva lot of credits, RAID 10 feels like overkill
This one's going to be doing processing on data that will be backed up at multiple places
 
Bob
A step down would be RAID 6.
RAID 5 is generally not recommended.
But it really does depend on the size of the array and the number of drives.
And the type of drives. SAS and NL-SAS generally behave better in RAID than SATA does.
 
There are SAS disks, but they are way more expensive that normal SATA ones
Hell, we can afford them
 
Bob
2:47 PM
@HackToHell You do need to consider if it's worth getting them.
Also consider how much downtime you can allow for.
Consider how much damage loss of working data will cause.
 
yeah, ever since I accidentally annihilated one of the servers, have increased backup of data.
 
Bob
@HackToHell Periodic backups aren't perfect.
 
All servers are deployable via playbooks
Code -> Git
 
Bob
Consider a server catches fire.
How much damage does losing all fresh data cause?
Plan for that eventuality.
 
Legacy Data -> Multiple copies (Azure, AWS)
@Bob That might be a issue, we could spend all night pulling data and loosing it means a day of work is lost
 
Bob
2:56 PM
@HackToHell Consider how much damage that causes.
Put a figure (money) on it.
Then you mitigate that with RAID.
You aim for the RAID implementation to cost some % of the potential damage (multiplied by the probability of that damage occuring, e.g. 0.01 chance)
Then that is how much you should spend on RAID.
If the chance of failure is 0.0001 (0.01%) per day and the cost of failure is, say, $100, and it takes one full day to bring a new server up to replace the failed one, then your RAID should ideally not cost more than $0.01 * 2 (days lost per failure) per day.
Since you're just number-crunching, and you have frequent (?) backups, cost of failure probably isn't all that high.
 
yeah, so essentially, it all comes down to time it takes to get it back up and running, last time it took almost a day.
 
Bob
For companies running a server that needs uptime, e.g. public-facing server or internal support server like a DC, that cost can easily go into the tens, hundreds of thousands per day.
For number-crunching, you might not benefit from RAID at all.
Unless we're talking RAID 0 of course.
 
It's going to be primarily in memory, read/write will be done to a SSD
 
Bob
@HackToHell That's not the point.
Assume without RAID that a HDD failure = loss of all work since last backup + another day to bring up a server.
It doesn't matter if the actual failure doesn't happen immediately because you aren't constantly accessing the HDD. Actually, that's even worse because you now potentially lose multiple days.
Anyway, these are just back-of-the-envelope calculations.
You'd end up with a ballpark of how much you should spend on RAID before you start losing more than you'd save, over the long run, taking the gamble that you won't have multiple successive failures.
 
That makes sense, this is tricky -.-
 
Bob
3:03 PM
@HackToHell Not that hard.
Estimate likelihood of HDDs failing on a single <backup period>.
Estimate cost of damages incurred if it fails in <backup period> + <setup time>
Multiply the two. You now have a <per backup period> amount, which is the ballpark figure for how much you can spend on RAID before it becomes more effective to just deal with failures as they come.
Customer-facing services are far harder because you also have to consider customer satisfaction, etc.. But from what I can tell of your current task, it's a relatively easy calculation.
Maybe add in <cost of deadline overrun> if you have a lot of failures.
 
it's a easy task for now, will have to deploy a super critical API later(Q1 next year), so this is a great way to get started
We are just doing a test run with softlayer
If it's good, all future infra will be on it
hm, all this trouble cause I am doing a bare metal server
The current one has RAID5 o0
Wait, it's a bunch of 840 Pros in RAID 10
 
Bob
@HackToHell Yea, you're gonna want redundancy for that.
But it doesn't have to be RAID.
Could just be multiple (geographically distributed) machines.
 
yeah going for multiple machines
 
Bob
Then you need to repeat calculations for chance of failure with and without RAID, and all the damages calculations against RAID cost.
Have fun :P
 
3:14 PM
HDFS seems to solve the RAID problem, but then it's only effective when there's a helluva lot of disks
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek wat
 
@Bob Totally :D
 
Bob
> Java-based file system
!!no
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Pretty damn tacky.
I wouldn't want to be seen in public with that!
And I don't normally care too much about the look of my phone.
Oh, wait, the top is a photo of cans, not phones :P
> a 1.7GHz processor
Yay. Completely, utterly, useless info.
Even including core count would be better, as useless as it is.
 
3:17 PM
lol
 
Bob
What's a good car analogy?
I need @allquixotic for this :P
It's like... uh...
Giving the engine RPM with no idea about torque, MPG, etc.?
 
;p
"Its got a an engine with 4 pistons"
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Nah, that'd be core count. Maybe.
Well, not really.
Hmmmm.
 
Bob
Core count would be more like "it has four wheels. and only one is touching the ground most of the time."
 
3:23 PM
;p
Its probably badge engineered
 
Bob
You don't say? :P
 
oh hey guys <3
 
I'm here, what's up?
 
Bob
@allquixotic 'lo
@allquixotic Car analogies, stuff...
 
3:25 PM
@Bob Apart from it being slow, it's used at a lot of places ;p
 
today is Columbus Day. As in Christopher Columbus Day. This is a US Federal Govt holiday but many private companies and businesses are open. However, the contract my company signed with my Government customer says that I am supposed to take today as a holiday :D so I am off!
 
@Bob that's actually a pretty good one
higher Hz and RPMs both produce increased heat, and after a certain RPM/Hz that the engine/chip is optimally designed for (which can be arbitrarily high or low), forcing it higher than that is very inefficient and consumes much more fuel (gas/electricity) per unit of (work or information processing) than normal.
there are quite a few chips out there with less than 2 GHz clock speed that are way faster than the Pentium 4 3.8 GHz though
the A9, for example <3
 
Bob
@allquixotic True, but also lots that are way slower. See: Cortex-A9
Oh wait I was thinking of the Cortex-A8.
Used in some SoCs by the aptly-named Rockchip.
 
my invocation of the Apple A9 made you think Cortex-A9 :P
 
Bob
3:33 PM
Wait, no, Cortex-A9.
 
Rockchip? So this is the processor people use when they invoke the slang "My computer is a potato"?
 
Bob
@allquixotic Was already trying to remember which one, because I have a "DGTEC TB07" here.
It has a RK2926.
That's a Cortex-A9.
 
I think you own more SoCs than any of the regulars in here
considering I sold several of my smartphones, it's almost certain
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...probably.
@allquixotic Hard to say they're in working condition though :P
 
family-wide, I can think of 8 that haven't been sold, and that's not counting stuff like full-fat laptop CPUs or the Surface Pro i5, but I do consider the BGA i3 in my NUC to be a SoC
and not counting the RAID processor in my RAID card
 
Bob
3:37 PM
Between the Cortex-A9 in this tablet and the Cortex-A7 in the Y201, I'm not entirely sure which is slower...
@allquixotic Let's see. Phones: Y201, E1, L520, S2 (charging broken), S4, G4.
Not including old Nokia Symbian phones. And not including family's phones.
 
> 1 Gbps Dual Public & Private Network Uplinks (Unbonded) [$20.00]
What the hell is unbonded ._..
 
Bob
Tablets: TB-07, some PendoPad, ASUS Vivotab Smart, Lenovo Miix 2 10".
@HackToHell You can't treat it as a single network.
I just realised/remembered this PendoPad is my first KitKat device.
 
hmm... is it typical for a SoC to carry the RAM chip on the same package? I don't think so, right?
 
Bob
And I probably should've tested the speaker with this first...
@allquixotic Not for ARM SoCs, AFAIK.
 
@Bob Uhh meaning ?
@Bob :O
 
Bob
3:40 PM
I think you get some limited SRAM on-die with some AVR microcontrollers.
 
@Bob ah... then except for the networking stuff (WiFi/LTE/CDMA) the NUC i3 does almost exactly the same stuff as the typical SoC would do on the main package
non-volatile storage is nearly always on its own separate package soldered to the mainboard due to its size
 
Wait I get it
 
and a lot of smartphones don't put the cellular stuff on the SoC because of complexity/size/heat
 
Bob
"Battery level: 99%"
LIES
 
lol
 
Bob
3:43 PM
It wouldn't turn on until I plugged in a charger...
 
the PendoPad?
 
@HackToHell: bonded means the two interfaces act as one.
 
Bob
> Rockchip 3026 Dual Core
 
@allquixotic: not typical at all until the rpi
 
Bob
Oh look. Rockchip makes another appearance.
> The RK3026 is an updated ultra-low-end dual-core ARM Cortex-A9-based tablet processor clocked at 1.0 GHz with ARM Mali-400 MP2 GPU. Manufactured at 40 nm, it is pin-compatible with the RK2926.
 
3:45 PM
eww, ultra-low-end ;p 40 nm ;p
 
Bob
...soooooooo it's just a dual-core version of the DGTEC one
The PendoPad screen is far better, not that that's saying much.
The DGTEC seems to share a screen manufacturer with the Intex FF phone
Similar DGTEC tablets were going for $30 late last year...
 
@JourneymanGeek I think I can, or maybe not. It's all confusing and the info is scattered all over the place. Made a question for it.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Funnily enough? These cheap tablets are closer to stock than anything else I have o.O
 
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xCareI'd like to know please what are the all the exact penalties if I delete questions or answers I've asked. How about if others delete a question or answer I ask, what penalties do I get? Any penalties if a question I ask is closed? Reason I ask is because I posted a question yesterday and I se...

 
ooh, quick downvote
 
Bob
3:47 PM
Wait this thing has a camera?!
> Battery Volume 2,200mAh
In a tablet...
 
yeah, but had to ask, someone really needs to put the info in one place. I'd do it myself but don't think I should.
 
Bob
Real capacity is probably more like 1000mAh, if that.
I think it lasts some 2-3 hours on battery.
> Camera Front 0.3 MP
ewwww
 
Bob
4:01 PM
btw, @allquixotic, I might get one or two stutters 2-3 mins after turning the screen off (rare, happened three times over the last week), but then it's fine for hours
 
mmh...
 
Bob
Dunno if it's different apps, different manufacturer, different Android versions or even the hardware (808). But I don't seem to get stuttering.
 
*clings to iPhone*
 
Bob
-_-
 
4:14 PM
@JourneymanGeek Essentially easier to manage
 
@HackToHell you can always bond them in software with something like NIC teaming to get a virtual 2 Gbps
 
4:41 PM
@allquixotic Oh, additional configuration :/
 
 
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6:16 PM
well great... now I have Dell Workstation 12.0 Pro instead of VMware Workstation :P
Dell buys EMC (and VMware)
 
6:39 PM
746.52 GB, 746.39 GB. These are the magic numbers that indicate MBR issues with 3 GB drives.
 
6:57 PM
@allquixotic Biggest M&A transaction ever in the history of computing.
Dell is simply no longer a consumer computer company more than it is an enterprise computing company.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dell spun off its consumer computing and Alienware divisions in a few months.
 
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