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Journeyman Geek

14:06

blah, I'm having one of those questions that makes me feel stupid.

I just added a switch to my network, and I realise that the switch has no ip address as far as I can tell, and I have no way to work out what's on each of my 3 main network devices

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek apparently they haven't heard of kilobytes

Journeyman Geek

;p

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Do switches have IP adresses now?

allquixotic

@Bob lol

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: I've never had a switchy switch

I usually end up repurposing spare routers

That Brazilian Guy

14:08

!!define switchy

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy switchy (colloquial) Having a whisking motion.

That Brazilian Guy

!!define whisking

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy whisking Present participle of

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy a layer 3 switch is a router, essentially; it would have to have an IP address

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: I mean a switch thats just a switch

allquixotic

14:09

terminology: layer 1 joiny thingy = hub
layer 2 joiny thingy = ethernet switch or bridge
layer 3 joiny thingy = layer 3 switch (for clarity) or IP switch or router (all would do NAT)

Journeyman Geek

4 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek

allquixotic

layer 2 switches would have a MAC, but not an IP

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: see, I didn't quite realise that.

That Brazilian Guy

Hmmmmmm.

Journeyman Geek

Then I remembered my hub didn't

(and yes, I am abusing symbols for power line networking gear ;p)

allquixotic

14:11

a hardware layer 2 switch effectively does what ebtables does on Linux; a hardware layer 3 switch or router effectively does what iptables does on Linux

That Brazilian Guy

/me regrets having fallen behind on that CCNA-preparing course last year they gave me for free at work. .____.

(And worse, because I had to leave the city for a shitty linux course that taught me nothing!)

allquixotic

you guys will never guess where I learned networking. I learned it as part of a crash course on security testing

(I mean, learned as in, more than the casual knowledge)

I had to learn it to understand how our wonky lab was set up

and I got a history lesson, too, as in ~2009-2010 we were using layer 2 switches that didn't do auto-negotiation

so you had to use actual crossover cables

Journeyman Geek

oh dear

allquixotic

we had a bunch of oooold layer 2 switches (not routers and not hubs -- hey, at least they weren't hubs!) and a modern layer 3 router forming the IP network of the LAN

these days, unless you're looking at purpose-built enterprise-grade very large scale networking equipment, both hubs and L2 switches are becoming super rare.... almost everything sold to consumers these days is at least a layer 3 switch, if not even more than that, in one device (also typically a modem)

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: pretty much

modem routers are foul tho

allquixotic

14:19

except for that revitalized WRT by Linksys

...by Cisco

Journeyman Geek

now its belkin ;p

I wouldn't buy a modem router tho

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek wat?! geez... Linksys changing its owners a lot o_O

Journeyman Geek

lol

(also, the only reason I have a L2 switch is because it does homeplug)

Edward A

I'm kinda confused about 802.11n and how to get simultaneous 2.4 and 5GHz on same SSID, more precisely what PCI card(s) I should pick, already asked the question superuser.com/q/700969/289564, any chance you fellas could put me on the right track?

I hope you don't mind me asking this here too.

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: thats one of those things they're annoyingly abtuse about

its not the 'same' ssid tho

its 2 ssids on different bands that happen to be the same

and I do suspect a dualband card may do that just fine. At worst go with 2 cards? ;p

Bob

14:28

@allquixotic I have one of these next to me :D

It's got a "normal/uplink" push switch (mechanical, too :P)

no need for crossover cables there... hopefully

Edward A

So I should try getting a dual band 802.11a/b/g/n card and hope that I can get a mixed mode that works with a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5) at same time?

Bob

@allquixotic You can still find L2s quite easily

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: I'd try it

Bob

I actually have a couple. Great when you pretty much just need more ports.

Journeyman Geek

if nothing else, you'll need the dual band card to service the 5ghz range anyway

@Bob: for me, thats most of the time ;p

Bob

14:30

L3s cost more, and have more overhead...

Edward A

Is there currently support for that in DD-WRT? Apparently pfsense will have support in next alpha (hopefully).

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well, it would be an identical ESSID and probably different BSSIDs

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

where ESSID is the name and BSSID is pretty much the MAC address IIRC

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: I didn't even know DD-WRT did x86 ;p

Bob

14:31

@EdwardA Most client cards won't work with both radios at the same time

Journeyman Geek

is using hostapd for his x86 router

Edward A

@JourneymanGeek Also, if it doesn't work on both 2.4 and 5 at same time and I'll end up having to buy two cards to have one do 11b/g/n 2.4ghz and one 11a/n 5ghz, will they play along nicely?

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: I do believe they should

I've run dual wireless interfaced linux systems before

Bob

hm. actually, 2.4 and 5 on the same card might actually have the same BSSID

dunno

allquixotic

make sure they both use the same wifi infrastructure in the kernel (ideally if they are both part of the mainline linux kernel then you're good)

Edward A

14:32

I mean, say I pull out a galaxy s-something that supports 5ghz 11n, and I have both cards set on same SSID, will galaxy pick the best 11n 5ghz or it'll pick 11n 2.4 just because it sees it first?

allquixotic

could run into conflicts if one of them is a third-party driver that depends on an old version of mac80211

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: we set ours to a different ssid for clarity's sake

Bob

@EdwardA depends on how aggressive its roaming is

more aggressive roaming will switch when the other is stronger

Journeyman Geek

that way you can be sure its connected to 5ghz N or 2.4 ghz N

Bob

less aggressive will prefer to stay on one for as long as possible

Edward A

14:33

I see

Bob

@EdwardA related: play.google.com/store/apps/…

Journeyman Geek

also if I set my G ap to say "wireless" the other one is automatically set to "wireless-5g" unless I change it

Bob

there's other apps like that, and CLI utilities (often only for rooted devices)

Edward A

@Bob btw when you said "Most client cards won't work with both radios at the same time" I'm not talking at all about client connecting to multiple ones, I'm talking about a server wireless card using both to transmit / receive on both 2.4 and 5 at same time.

allquixotic

hmm -- tempted to install pfsense on my NUC for ease of routerification, though it'll get rid of almost all of my possible use cases of it as a desktop :<

Journeyman Geek

14:35

@EdwardA: in this respect there's no 'server' card

allquixotic

didn't know they had router distros for x86

Anonymous

-5

Q: What is a server? and what can i use it for

I have people sometimes asking me what a server is, I don't wanna explain it cause they are annoying, and would like somethings to direct them to, in the future :) What is a server?

linux

Anonymous

HOW DO I COMPUTER

Bob

@EdwardA I'm saying a wifi card designed for use as a client generally doesn't support that in the hardware/firmware

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I knew openwrt existed, but installation instructions were ~~nuts~~ overcomplex

Bob

14:36

I have yet to see a PC expansion wifi card designed to act as an AP

Journeyman Geek

@Bob master mode?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek hm?

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek speaking of, I wonder if OpenWRT on x86 works :D

Bob

@JourneymanGeek you can operate them as an AP

allquixotic

codel O___O

Edward A

14:37

Does dual band imply that it has dual radios or its only a bigger word for "supports 5ghz"?

Bob

but it's not what they're designed for

allquixotic

wonder if CeroWRT is still a thing or if it's obsoleted by openwrt merges

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: thats what master mode does

@EdwardA: its to seperate it from single band n devices

Bob

there's a very big difference between it works and it's designed for it

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: master mode is designed to run as an AP ;p

hostapd ignores that tho

allquixotic

14:38

@EdwardA generally you have two antennae, one for 2.4 and one for 5 ghz, but they can be connected to the same radio

Edward A

I don't seem to find any wireless card that says it has dual radios, am I not looking hard enough

?

allquixotic

a radio is basically an ADC that processes analog signal coming off the antenna into quantized information... if you have one radio, chances are it can't do both bands simultaneously, but it could still do either band depending on which antenna it's connected to

if you have two radios then that's a different story

Bob

@allquixotic IIRC it's normally the same antenna for both

it's fairly rare to actually have different antennae

allquixotic

@Bob then why did the card I bought for my NUC have two antennae?

one for bluetooth and one for wifi?

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: look for a ABGN one rather than a BGN one

allquixotic

14:40

but bluetooth is 2.4 ghz

Bob

@allquixotic I've seen them referred to as primary and secondary

allquixotic

unless that chip has two radios, one for bt and one for wifi

Bob

or 2T2R setups

allquixotic

@Bob MIMO?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: most have two antennas. amongst other things, for MIMO, selecting for different polarisations....

Bob

14:40

@allquixotic ya

Journeyman Geek

and some APs have more than that.

Bob

My laptop came with a 2.4GHz-only card, and it had two antennae connectors

allquixotic

this is where it gets harder to build out a system by hand with the same capabilities as even a crap router

Bob

same as the 2.4/5 cards, actually

allquixotic

there are 3x3, 4x4 simultaneous dual band routers now

pretty @_@ overall

Journeyman Geek

14:41

@allquixotic: and power use and...

Bob

@allquixotic there are some mini pcie cards with 3T3R support

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek NUC. power use not an issue :P

Bob

a little more common for desktops with full-size pcie

Journeyman Geek

no offence, but it dosen't entirely make sense to me XD

@allquixotic: low, but not as low

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek Klink is the main reason I DIY'ed instead of Netgearing

remember?????

Journeyman Geek

14:42

oh, you have a specific use case ;p

Edward A

I suppose I'll have to go with two wireless cards, one for 2.4 and one for 5, question is what will happen when they use same SSID and a client wants to connect to a 11n which is available in both 2.4 and 5. Gonna be fun.

Journeyman Geek

(granted, I have hostapd on my home server)

Edward A

Thanks a lot for the help and clarifications lads

Bob

@EdwardA depends on the roaming aggressiveness, but normally unless the other is stronger by a fair margin it'll just stick to whichever it connected to first

and that could be determined by defined preference, signal strength, etc. ... it depends on the specific client

Edward A

Yeah, that makes sense, at least its better than nothing

Bob

14:44

it's pretty standard for multiple APs in larger networks to use the same SSID, and the clients just hop around

you'll see that a lot at universities, schools, some businesses, etc.

Edward A

I'm overcomplicating this for a apartment with 2 pcs and 2 laptops, a pfsense firewall, now a pfsense ap, multiple ssids, cat6 etc..

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I think there's some specific witchcraft there tho

lol

Edward A

but its fun

Journeyman Geek

@EdwardA: I have 2 routers, 2 switches, one additional AP (on hostapd) ;p

and yeah, its fun

Bob

@EdwardA eh, I'm sticking with dedicated APs :P

current tally... hmm...

Edward A

14:48

pfsense is great though

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I prefer them, but I figure there's cases where a ghetto AP is alright

Bob

one adsl2+ modem/router/wirelessAP, three standalone routers/wirelessAP, two switches, one additional wireless AP

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek keep in mind that the I/O, system resource amount, and CPU capabilities of a "dedicated" router makes them look ghetto compared to even a Celery NUC

Bob

and a raspberry pi for traffic control at the lowest level

allquixotic

properly configured, a hand-built system can avoid bottlenecks that a router would hit

and not all routers are carefully tested to ensure that they are bottleneck-free

Bob

14:50

@allquixotic that may be, if they were acting as a router

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: don't forget routers usually have custom hardware to handle some stuff

Bob

but purely as a bridged wireless access point? not intensive at all

most can handle it just fine

allquixotic

I remember having a modem/router that would lose its internet connection when you visited the router configuration page (great confusion for clueless father) because serving the HTML brought the CPU and I/O bus to its knees

Journeyman Geek

modem routers suck ;p

Bob

most of the wireless and bridging stuff is probably handled by ASICs

not the MIPS CPU on there

allquixotic

14:51

the DSLAM would timeout on the modem due to the I/O bus being saturated for so long, just by serving the homepage of the router configuration

Bob

heh

allquixotic

you could effectively DoS our home network back then by XHRing to 192.168.1.1

Bob

@allquixotic mine just throws errors back :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

as @JourneymanGeek said, modem/routers suck

Edward A

14:52

talking of bottlenecks, what's the bottleneck in running cat6 for about 15m, a TL-SG1016 and a pentium 4 pfsense with tp-link gigabit cards and a ga-z77x-ud3h integrated card? Was expecting more than around 500mb/s with iperf

allquixotic

> pentium-4

Bob

weird, now that i want an example it's actually working

Journeyman Geek

oh, we had a 2wire in the office that was ok

locked down tho

Bob

@EdwardA The switch is the least likely

allquixotic

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random google of something i saw in linux kernel config file

Journeyman Geek

14:53

lol

allquixotic

@_@

Bob

the P4 might actually have some trouble with GbE :P

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: 2wire is odd

allquixotic

> Java ring

Journeyman Geek

actually I suspect thats the bottleneck too

allquixotic

14:54

please don't tell me that ring runs a JVM

2

Bob

@allquixotic Of course, just like your credit card.

allquixotic

> English: Java Ring - a ring with a built-in microprocessor, programmable in Java and powered by its own data communication connection. Given to attendees at the 1998 JavaOne conference.

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

Edward A

I was afraid pentium4 is the bottleneck, but I kinda wished it wouldn't get knocked over by a simple gigabit speed

Bob

@allquixotic holy fuck

@EdwardA eh.. it's old

allquixotic

14:54

actually, being able to bootstrap a JVM on a device the size of a ring in 1998 is amazing

Edward A

but but

allquixotic

AMAZING

Bob

@EdwardA a modern Celeron will beat it. by like 5x. in terms of raw processing power

allquixotic

@EdwardA it's more the I/O bus than the processor itself

Pentium 4 is still using FSB, which bottlenecks like a boss

Shiki

Anyone have experience with HG (mercurial) here?

allquixotic

14:55

use a modern point to point architecture

at least Nehalem

Journeyman Geek

I'd go for at least a core 2

Bob

@JourneymanGeek not worth it

Journeyman Geek

(since they came with gig-e fairly regularly)

Bob

basic celeron CPU + motherboard of the Ivy or Haswell type is only about $100

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: assuming he had one lying around ;p

allquixotic

14:56

@Bob Celery NUC :D

Bob

@allquixotic if he already has the expansion cards, he can reuse them with a full ATX mobo :P

allquixotic

gahhhhhhhhhhh you people and your ginormous ATX routers

Bob

@allquixotic hey, my router is a RPi

it doesn't get much smaller than that

Journeyman Geek

lol

my router is a router.

Bob

I was tempted to say "my router is reserved for cutting wood"

allquixotic

14:57

it just seems so inelegant

Bob

my bloody modem

Journeyman Geek

also, if you only have one lan port, its effectively a fancy AP

;p

Bob

when I want it to throw an error, nawp

when I need to actually configure it... guess what?

oh here it goes

> 400 Bad Request
No request found.
micro_httpd

Edward A

@Bob take a look, it might be old, but isn't it beautiful? i.imgur.com/kTnnZVf.jpg

Journeyman Geek

and thanks guys

I'm slightly regretting not picking up that old desktop downstairs ;p

Edward A

15:00

@Bob slim too i.imgur.com/R5HmnNq.jpg

Bob

@EdwardA until it catches fire :P

allquixotic

@Bob billion what? billion errors? billion cusswords at it not working?

Edward A

=/

Journeyman Geek

lol

yes

all these things

allquixotic

@Bob you better contextify that one before someone has to use the little <whatever_they_identify_themselves_as>'s room

most starred message on the star wall

Journeyman Geek

15:03

lol

@allquixotic: or a fire hydrant.

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek synonym for "toilet" in dogese :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@allquixotic bit late for that

...that came out wrong

bit late to change/contextify*

allquixotic

@Bob rofl

as in, someone already used you? XD

@Bob was intentionally ignoring this message :P

time to work hard! BBL

Anonymous

15:17

wtf golden globes

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

15:29

"fun" fact

2

lolololol parkinsons

Anonymous

fun

That Brazilian Guy

15:52

> i just install the vc_web.exe for visual basic c++ that i download from internet.

superuser.com/revisions/701060/1

Visual Basic C++, is it something new?

vzhen

16:03

Just know there is usb only monitor. any disadvantages?

That Brazilian Guy

@vzhen Your question isn't clear to me. I assume English isn't your native language. In this case, could you please use google translator to rephrase it?

vzhen

that's right, en not my native lang. I meant any disadvantages using usb to connect monitor? without power and vga or hdmi cable @ThatBrazilianGuy

That Brazilian Guy

Never heard of it before. Here's what I found on google: displaylink.com/technology/technology_overview.php

DisplayLink uses software-based real-time variable-quality compression, so in my opinion it is bad, specially for environments where delay isn't desired (gaming)

vzhen

You can check this out.

http://us.aoc.com/monitor_displays/e2251fwu
22” USB Powered Monitor. Ideal for presentations and dual monitor displays. No external power cord needed.

That Brazilian Guy

There might be other technologies for video over USB, but other regulars of this channel might be more suited to discuss those

vzhen

16:14

then i will just look for normal monitor. do you have any recommended ?
budget around 100 - 150 USD

That Brazilian Guy

@vzhen Hidden buried deep on the user manual, this monitor is in fact DisplayLink-powered

I would stay away from a technology that requires a driver in order for the video monitor on top of a driver for the video card.

Also, apparently it is only for PC and Mac, no fun for Linux!

vzhen

ic, thanks for your research

That Brazilian Guy

> DisplayLink software can be used on PCs, from Netbooks, Notebooks/Laptops to Desktops. The driver will run on processors ranging from Atom N270 based PCs, basic single Core CPUs, and of course the latest Dual, Quad Core and Core i3/i5/i7
CPUs.
The performance of the software is dependent upon the processing power available, as well as the operating system in use. More capable systems offer higher performance.
DisplayLink software is available for PCs running one of the following Windows
operating systems: Windows 7 (32 bit or 64 bit), Windows Vista with Service Pack 1 or 2 (32 bit or 64 …

vzhen

do you have any recommended? price around 100 - 150 usd

That Brazilian Guy

That will depend a lot on where you live, therefore no I have no recomendations

It's been literally more than a decade since I last bought my last video monitor

vzhen

16:21

ok

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy this regular is not available at the moment :D

That Brazilian Guy

17:55

This is driving me insane:

0

Q: Chiliproject / redmine: cannot start thin on init

I have been tasked with putting a chiliproject instance back online. It is running on a CentOS 6 (64 bits) server. The problem is, I know absolutely zero Ruby, and my Linux knowledge isn't much more advanced than that; I have absolutely no idea where to start. When I load the page on a browser, ...

linux centos-6 redmine chiliproject help-vampire

rlemon

Please tell me someone here has experience with ubuntu and serial ports :P

damn I hate having to work with serial ports

That Brazilian Guy

@rlemon "Someone here has experience with ubuntu and serial ports".

rlemon

@allquixotic ^^ you are my man of many talents and fair skin

@ThatBrazilianGuy hur hur hur

dmesg | grep tty
 > 00:06: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 ...

I seem to be able to see the port, however using node-serialport scan I see nothing

but it is going through a shifty usb->serial converter so i'm unsure if my problem is that or node-serial :/

waiting for the beagleboard to come in the mail so I can test on the actual hardware

allquixotic

@rlemon huh?

oh, right serial ports

rlemon

yea they still exist

sadly.

RS232 4 LYFE!

allquixotic

18:05

are you the grain heater guy?

rlemon

close enough :P

allquixotic

:D

@rlemon grain dryer, right?

or do i have you confused with someone else

RS232, shifty USB to serial, sounds all familiar

rlemon

this is so frustrating because i am not sure at which end the problem lays. And if I am struggling to get ubuntu to recognize the usb serial adapter then it is pointless because in the end I will not be using the adapter

and yes, grain dryers

we make the automated control systems

allquixotic

@rlemon what is node-serial? :P

(time for me to learn so i can teach... Socrates-style!)

rlemon

github.com/voodootikigod/node-serialport

allquixotic

18:08

wat...

NodeJS? serialports?

rlemon

yup

allquixotic

dude. telnet plz.

rlemon

nocando

allquixotic

very work

such simple

rlemon

this is to interconnect existing hardware

100% has to use serial (rs232) interface

not my choice

allquixotic

18:09

ok? but you can at least see whether it's a valid character device using telnet?

I mean you peel back the layers and you try it at a lower level interface (perhaps even an alternative RS232-speaking API that's not Node) and you see if it breaks

rlemon

the device is only setup to communicate via modbus

ALL of my testing software is written in windows :/

my fault really, when I started here I was a c# junkie

allquixotic

@rlemon write some C

rlemon

setserial -g /dev/ttyS0
UART: 16550A, Port: 0x0sf8, IRQ: 4

@allquixotic deadlines - I can do this is node.js MUCH faster - assuming I can get over this hurdle (and I would really not like to have to re-invent a serial library for node)

also, it isn't the modbus library that is giving me issues, it is the node serial library

allquixotic

@rlemon OK, but the simplest test of "is this serial to usb converter working" is to attempt to make a modbus connection in C using libmodbus

rlemon

it is working on windows fine.

allquixotic

18:14

you originally told me that you don't know if it's the hardware or the software

rlemon

my windows testing software connects and reads / writes like a beast

allquixotic

11 mins ago, by rlemon

but it is going through a shifty usb->serial converter so i'm unsure if my problem is that or node-serial :/

so now you're saying you know it's not the hardware

OK

rlemon

sorry, the shifty serial converter is not allowing ubuntu to mount it properly is what I meant.

so ubuntu, or node-serialport

that is what i'm trying to figure out

allquixotic

@rlemon lsusb ?

dmesg | grep -i usb ?

rlemon

> Bus 004 Device 002: ID .... Moxa Technologies ... (the usb->serial converter)

15 mins ago, by rlemon

dmesg | grep tty
 > 00:06: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 ...

grep for usb gives me a few pages

allquixotic

18:19

@rlemon ok, but what driver is being used for it?

!! s/driver/kernel module/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic @rlemon ok, but what kernel module is being used for it? (source)

rlemon

but on the last page it does find the UPORT device (serial - usb)

uhci_hcd

allquixotic

wow, usb 1.1

sounds like the driver layer just communicates with the serial adapter at a raw USB packet layer, meaning that whatever Node is doing to communicate in modbus is in raw javascript without any native interposer

Jimmy Hoffa

@rlemon try using node.js on windows to access it

allquixotic

unless they're using some kind of natives under the hood

nvm. natives. -_- github.com/voodootikigod/node-serialport/blob/master/src/…

rlemon

18:25

@JimmyHoffa okay, I'll try that now

after my smoke and coffee

allquixotic

superuser.com/users/tag-future/144607

@rlemon what is the output of github.com/voodootikigod/node-serialport/blob/master/bin/… ?

rlemon

drivers

switched devices

works

SOB

a day and a half

allquixotic

@rlemon ?

what was the fix?

Jimmy Hoffa

@rlemon changed the usb->serial adapter?

rlemon

boss finally tells me "try this device, it has drivers build into it. but I only have the one because the company went out of business"

allquixotic

18:36

@_@

rlemon

@JimmyHoffa changed it a number of times, but all the same type (we stock them for field work)

allquixotic

surprise surprise: company making USB TO SERIAL adapters goes out of business. news at 11.

rlemon

@allquixotic the funny part is that theirs was the only one today that works

Jimmy Hoffa

@rlemon I mean tried a different type? (I know precisely how that goes, old job I had to deal with reading smartcards and we had 2 kinds of readers, people were always jockeying/trading for one or the other depending on which one they managed to get working best...)

allquixotic

maybe make them come out of bankruptcy to manufacture your usb to serial converters ;))

Jimmy Hoffa

18:39

The way I recall it if your had an older machine one of the readers would work and the other wouldn't, if you had a newer machine the opposite... so as peoples machines got changed around or depending on if they were using their laptop or desktop people were always wandering around trying to trade their reader with someone elses heh

(usually after trying for an hour before deciding to try a different reader)

rlemon

@JimmyHoffa well I got a step forward with a different brand of converter.

still won't open the actual port, but i'm getting there

at least nodejs sees it now

Jimmy Hoffa

USB and serial are basically the same thing... :o

ekaj

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