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Braiam

00:07

@allquixotic no, I meant country ip, in my case there was a bunch of RF choppers, smartphones and accessories...

Journeyman Geek

@NokImchen: for a certain value of where

you can work out who the registar is

even the owner

Mr. I Don't Care

01:25

Sup

!!weather

tapped-out

-2

A: Using laptop keyboard as wireless bluetooth keyboard

in had the same problem:( try pooping it helps me with my diarea hope this helps:)

wat.

Bob

01:41

ok

so, my network printer can store logs at a network location

but... it looks like it's SMB/CIFS only? o.O

I want FTP D:

Bob

02:27

ok

samba over a 300ms RTT connection set up

god this is gonna suck

Bob

04:54

!!xkcd 210

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

Freestyle rapping is basically applied Markov chains.

Bob

stop

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

Bob

:)

Journeyman Geek

05:17

lol

halt

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERZEIT!

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Gowtham

05:41

o0

halt

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERZEIT!

Gowtham

!! tell halt halt

ChatBot John Cavil

@Gowtham Command halt does not exist.

Bob

4

Gowtham

/learn halt "halt"

Bob

05:47

(source)

@Gowtham Stop trying to break it...

Huh, someone broke SE.

Braiam

@Bob yup

actually... it WAS YOU! ¬_¬

BTW, that chair... is more unconfortable than the darn iron throne....

Journeyman Geek

lol

Braiam

could someone kindly explain me why I was targetted with this comment

Journeyman Geek

"You have to use something other than bridging to do this. Routing with NAT, for example. You can also use four address mode, if both ends of the WiFi link support it."

that bit of it I think

iKlsR

@Bob jsfiddle.net/AYPpF/82/embedded/result

2

Journeyman Geek

05:52

@Bob: its back up

Bob

@iKlsR lol

@JourneymanGeek well, of course - chat was down too, and we'd hardly be chatting here if it were down!

we really need a backup communication method in case chat ever goes down for extended periods...

Braiam

@Bob fair...

I got some mantles, gas and firewood... who got the lighter?

Journeyman Geek

lol

irc? ;p

Braiam

freenode.net?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek you got a server? :P

Journeyman Geek

05:55

@Bob: not at the moment

Bob

we should set one up and add it to the room info or something :P

Braiam

and another ~~chat room~~ channel was born...

Journeyman Geek

I've done it a few times

Bob

I'm just going through my VPS list for one that allows IRC

Journeyman Geek

lol

Gowtham

05:58

@Bob ok :/

Journeyman Geek

IIRC buyvm is fine with it

its one reason I went with em

Bob

@JourneymanGeek to an extent

Journeyman Geek

we're going to be using it for at most what, 20-30 users?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek WLS doesn't mention it at all

Journeyman Geek

and thats being optimistic.

Bob

06:00

ya

@JourneymanGeek Heh, if we can get the chat-to-irc bridge working...

@allquixotic do you think Selenium/PhantomJS would be enough?

@JourneymanGeek I just opened a ticket with WLS to ask if they allow IRC servers.

Braiam

lol, What'sApp sending me a notification for a voice message... I don't have installed whatsapp... :/

Bob

06:26

@JourneymanGeek WLS allows IRC

Mr. I Don't Care

I just dun care. What can I say

Bob

?

Mr. I Don't Care

?;

Bob

06:46

@JourneymanGeek Argh shoddy USB extension cables -_-

doesn't work with my USB hub

with my USB headset, it somehow introduces static and stuttering

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

I don't even...

How do you even fail to make a cable that badly?

How do you manage to introduce static over USB??

ChatBot John Cavil

07:07

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Johan Larsson

When laptop wakes up from sleep it sometime is in some bs-mode with shortcuts. Space does something that I don't really know what it is, freezes up the computer and shows a bunch of transparent frames.

clicking esc, alt & win-key randomly for a while solves it

I tried googling but don't know the name of this behaviour so no dice

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: magic!

Johan Larsson

also nice to see some dogs in chat, chat means cat in French and it shows

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: I've had a USB cable that did that

and yeah, I've had some epically bad USB cables

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well I have three identical ones here that do that :P

Journeyman Geek

07:16

hate or have?

Bob

I need to get a new extension cable - the computer move has put some things just out of reach :(

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek both :P

they're effectively useless - how do they even make those?

how do you eff up a cable with four lines that badly?

(yes, the data pair should be twisted, but even that's not very hard)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: obviously its not made from oxygen free silver that has been hand forged in the fires of mordor.

Johan Larsson

Here is a pic of one of my dogs, should probably have cropped t harder.

Journeyman Geek

07:18

XD

@JohanLarsson: the water looks muddy ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I should've bought some of those Brilliant Pebbles :P

Journeyman Geek

XD

(or... they use REALLY thin cables - the sort you'd find in the lowest end headphones)

or in magnet coil windings

and they don't twist em

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I should probably cut one open. worst part? it's actually shielded... well, you can see the foil mesh

Journeyman Geek

and they get JUST enough noise...

o0

mein gott.

How does someone eff up that badly with to spec cable.

Bob

and it has a ferrite bead on the male end

Journeyman Geek

07:21

ferrite beads apparently are specifically indicated against in the specifications

you shouldn't need them

Bob

indicated against?

@JourneymanGeek yea, likely not need, but does it actually hurt? wait, what was the freq of USB signalling?

Journeyman Geek

headphiles.org/index.php?t=msg&goto=258320&;

take with a pinch of salt

Bob

the internal wires (semi-transparent connector) look like your standard PVC-insulated ones. Though, it's like 34AWG thickness? O.o

that might be the problem

Journeyman Geek

o0

Bob

wait, looks more like 30 AWG

@JourneymanGeek more like a heaping pile of salt

"bad for audio use"

Journeyman Geek

07:27

ahh here we are

usb.org/developers/usbfaq#sig4

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the problem is removing a metal object from the wire

cutting the connectors off and resoldering them kinda defeats the purpose

Journeyman Geek

the problem is whoever made the wire is an idiot

Bob

well, yes :P

Journeyman Geek

in QUITE a few cases they're just clip on ones

not too hard to remove

Bob

@JourneymanGeek not the cheaper ones

@JourneymanGeek I've managed to cut the casing off, but now it's a solid bead left

hm... I wonder if I could smash it with a hammer

o.O

tapped it with a hammer and it just broke apart

still fails with the hub

nope, the complete obliteration of the bead did not make any difference

@JourneymanGeek still sound shit on the headset, and still fails to work with the hub :P

Journeyman Geek

07:41

lol

Bob

probably shitty wires or failure to twist them

Journeyman Geek

its just plain shit then

Bob

so... I wonder what this is good for :P

and why the hell they went to the trouble (and additional cost, and incorrectness) of adding foil shielding and a bead if they can't even get the damn thing working

> Contrary to my initial supposition, the purpose of the USB cable shield
is not to protect the USB data lines from outside interference, but
rather to prevent the USB device from radiating EMI.

well, that just makes everything completely useless

Journeyman Geek

lol

they probably just bought the cable in bulk

and never QAed

Bob

oooh boy: reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/1oc5aj/…

@JourneymanGeek well their suppliers failed

you'd think someone somewhere would test it

why even bother with a half-working cable

either make it fully working or make it a full dud -_-

Bob

08:49

@allquixotic Four days left!

Oliver Salzburg

12:56

Okay, Cacti was not the source of my MySQL problem

And it's slowly spiraling out of control :P

This night I got over 100 error mails from cron

wtf is going on?

allquixotic

13:35

@Bob -_-

@Bob Selenium/PJS would be sufficient if you use my shims code, but Selenium/Firefox would definitely work

Bob

@allquixotic how does the resource usage compare?

allquixotic

@Bob neither one uses a lot of resources, but FF 24 is actually quite efficient with one tab.. yes, it will map a decent amount of RAM into the process, but so will any other modern browser... and I'm sure it's better to have "native" ES5 support than those shims, for performance

wtf, my server claims it has a load of 160

can't find any evidence of what's doing it

oh ok

one of my opensimulator mono-boehm instances is only eating 795.8% of my CPU

Bob

13:52

@allquixotic :waitwhat

I assume that's queue length or something?

allquixotic

@Bob it's the number reported by top

at least it's only mapping 1.2 GB of resident RAM (out of 32 GB), so it's not leaking or anything

allquixotic

14:08

I think the thread pool just exploded with too many threads; it had over 7500 items waiting in the work queue of the SmartThreadPool

it's under control now

Bob

@allquixotic yay!

Bob

15:10

Hessdalen light

The Hessdalen light is an unexplained light usually seen in the Hessdalen valley in the municipality of Holtålen in Sør-Trøndelag county, Norway. History and description Unusual lights have been reported here since 1940s or earlier. Especially high activity of Hessdalen lights took place from December 1981 until the summer of 1984 when lights were observed 15–20 times per week. The frequency of the lights caused a gathering of numerous tourists staying there overnight to see the phenomenon. Since then, the activity has decreased and now the lights are observed some 10–20 times per year. T...

> One recent hypothesis suggests that the lights are formed by a cluster of macroscopic Coulomb crystals in a plasma produced by the ionization of air and dust by Alpha particles during radon decay in the dusty atmosphere.

@allquixotic ^

Boris_yo

15:22

@allquixotic 32GB of RAM? Nice. You can probably afford yourself to run 3000 tabs in Chrome...

Einsteins Grandson

hey guys, i have an old notebook... which has 512 MB RAM.... it's DDR2 553...

I wanna buy one more RAM...

But what I buy 1 GB RAM.... that is 800 MHz

Will it work?

It should , right

?

Another thing is.... how can I find out if the notebook even has 2 slots?

or what is the maximum RAM that the notebook supports?

maybe it's 1 GB, maybe only 2 GB

If it's 1 GB and it only has 1 slot.... I would buy 1 GB and exchange it with the 512 that is in there right now

Bob

go look up the model number -_-

Einsteins Grandson

where can i find it?

it's somewhere in windows?

Bob

...

Einsteins Grandson

written? in some file?

it's TravelMate 2410

Acer TravelMate 2410....

Bob

15:31

great, now go look it up

Einsteins Grandson

It's like 7 years old laptop

;o)

Bob

there should still be specs for it

Einsteins Grandson

i know

but there are thousands of versions of TravelMate 2410

;o)

or at least like 20...

on the bottom of the notebook... i shoudl see the exact model number right?

Bob

there is only one version of every model (differing colours aside, sometimes)

Einsteins Grandson

MS 2177 is the model number!

so i will look it up

Bob

15:33

if there appears to me more than one, then you have a product line, not a single model's number/ID

Einsteins Grandson

the product line is TravelMate 2410....

the model number is MS 2177

so there are maybe 100 different model numbers of TravelMate 2410, right?

like NS2177

QS2177

etc...

this is what you meant?

Einsteins Grandson

15:47

ok , so now i know that the maximum supported RAM in the notebook is 2 GB

The manual says:

System memory 256/512 MB of DDR2 400 memory, upgradeable to 2 GB
using two soDIMM modules

But, how do I know if it is possible to have 1 GB in one slot and 1 GB in another slot?

Or.... only 1 RAM which is 2 GB in one slot....?

and second slot being unused...

Boris_yo

16:51

@SimonSheehan Sup yo?

Mokubai

I hate that damnable review audit at times, I click close because I suspect it's a question with a dupe and instead get told I'm the asshole for thinking about having a look

Boris_yo

17:12

Strong one:

amazon.com/Intel-i7-3930K-Hexa-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/…

Boris_yo

18:05

Fake WhatsApp Voicemail Notifications Deliver Malware

esecurityplanet.com/malware/…

tapped-out

21:27

0

Q: How to spit your semen inside a woman's vagina

I wanna know how to achieve that. If you're experienced, tell me. On side note: i tend to ejaculate a lot of semen when i have an orgasm.

linux

definitely qualifies as a Gem from Stack Exchange

poof

Boris_yo

22:15

@tapped-out pppfffft!

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Boris_yo

@tapped-out What did this post promote? I am curious.

tapped-out

didn't promote anything; there weren't any links or anything

Boris_yo

@tapped-out Then I don't understand why these kind of questions are here. Unless someone has personal vendetta with SE network.

tapped-out

for the lulz? "different" user posted another grossly inappropriate question minutes after it, but it got nuked before i could cap it

Braiam

22:24

is the same as Christianity haters posts

Journeyman Geek

yeah

we're big enough to have trolls

Braiam

I had to help with the flags :(

tapped-out

would any C2D-era laptops have DDR3 or they all DDR2?

allquixotic

@tapped-out pretty sure DDR3 didn't exist until Nehalem, so they'll all be DDR2

Journeyman Geek

all DDR2

allquixotic

22:38

Core 2 is actually getting quite long in the tooth (old) by now... considering that Nehalem and Sandy Bridge were huge advances, Ivy Bridge was another incremental advance, and then there's Haswell, with Broadwell looming in '14

I'll probably buy into Surface Pro 3 when Broadwell mobile chips hit (Microsoft won't take very long to iterate, I don't think... Surface Pro 2 came out FAST)

Braiam

isn't the intel tactic 1.1 about the development of the chips?

tapped-out

i'm just looking a for really cheap (~$150) laptop to tide me over for a couple more years, most of them are C2Ds (T7x00)

allquixotic

trying to low-ball it with something that old probably won't satisfy you, especially if you plan to live for it for a couple more years

don't know if you can get anything newer for $150 (that's an insane price for any complete system, even a tablet, unless you go to China) but you should really try

you should set your budget higher - I can't imagine you are living with something worse than a C2D right now - are you?

I mean in your shoes I could probably live with a Sandy Bridge laptop for a couple more years... but C2D? hell no

tapped-out

my current laptop is a HP (problem #1) tx2000 with an AMD Turion x2 (#2)

anything would be an upgrade from this

Braiam

I live with a P4... :(

tapped-out

22:46

it's not my primary system, i have a desktop with a first-gen i3 that's fine for my needs

i'm just looking for something with a bit more oomph that'll last until college (almost two years off)

current lappy won't even play YouTube videos smoothly :/

brb, dinner

Bob

@allquixotic the DDR version (2-3) likely wouldn't have too significant of a impact (apart from the price)

allquixotic

23:00

@tapped-out well, you're not going to find anything with a discrete graphics card for that price, and Intel's iGPU graphics were horrible until Sandy Bridge

@Bob yeah but all the pre-Nehalem memory controllers are all DDR2, so I was just answering his question that you won't be able to find DDR3 on a pre-Nehalem (pre-i3/i5/i7)

Boris_yo

Let the religious shitstorm begin. Or is it holy war?

terdon

@Boris_yo actually, I've had a relatively nice experience there. I am not a Christian (I'm a very devout atheist) and I made that clear in my profile and they were still willing by and large to answer my questions about their faith. Much as I am not a fan of organized religion, christianity.se is a relatively sane place.

allquixotic

@tapped-out Look at prices for laptops running the Celeron 1017U... it's dual core, Ivy Bridge, low cost, and it'll help future-proof you a lot more than buying a C2D laptop, especially because a laptop you buy with an Ivy Bridge processor is going to come with modern things like WiFi 802.11n, Bluetooth 3.0 or 4.0, etc

Boris_yo

@terdon That is until you try to teach them something... Then it begins.

@allquixotic Celeron? Oh noes..

Bob

FINALLY

month-long laptop repair over -_-

terdon

23:11

@Boris_yo Well, yes, that's the case for all religions. All I'm saying is that the official stance on christianity.se is really very good. Have a look at this meta post

42

Q: Brothers, we are not Christians‼

I am a Christian. You say you are. But we are not. It seems that a lot of folks are having a hard time wrapping their heads around the scope of this site. While I respect the SE staff* and have been impressed with the effort they have taken (and judgement they have shown) in nurturing this site ...

discussion site-definition sensitive-topics

Anyway, I am not about to defend christianity here so let's leave it at that :)

Bob

@allquixotic I'm pretty sure I've seen quite a few C2Ds with 802.11n...

@Boris_yo Celeron isn't really bad :P

It's lower-end, sure, but it's actually quite efficient - and more powerful than an Atom.

Boris_yo

@Bob Celeron has only L1 cache, Atom has all 3.

Journeyman Geek

"If you are more inclined to resent rather than celebrate the differences between us, then this may not be the site for you. "

Like, Vi and emacs? ;p

(that said, I think I have a few flags on christianity. Troll hunting!)

Braiam

23:29

wait! @terdon is in christianity?

terdon

@Braiam yes, I am fascinated by religion and in how otherwise intelligent people can manage to hold such contradictory ideas. I've posted a couple of questions and will probably post more. And no, I am not religious.

I was just pleasantly surprised by how open christianity.se was to dissenting ideas.

Braiam

man, my pv6 is SLOOOOOWWWW

tapped-out

trawling through Amazon

amazon.com/Remanufactured-IBM-ThinkPad-Pentium-Notebook/dp/…

Journeyman Geek

23:59

o0

I guess the serial port is useful ;p

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