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12:00 AM
But you can always hammer at a square peg until it fits into a round hole of course
 
Bob
urk
my laptop screen is a nice mess of lines running across it
 
I didn't do it
 
Bob
@BenBrocka Suspicious denial.
On a somewhat related note, can anyone who's taken apart an HP laptop (or any laptop) tell me why there are so many screws?
 
A HP business class laptop or a consumer rag?
 
Bob
the latter
unfortunately
 
12:14 AM
Weird. No idea
 
Bob
half the palm rest/top won't come off... probably still a screw left somewhere
 
Bob: did you locate the maintenance guide?
Or whatever HP calls it.
 
Bob
I guess it's better than glue, though.
@Hennes nup
 
Which model is it?
 
Bob
pavilion g6-1107TU
I followed half a screen replacement/disassembly guide a while ago to fix my touchpad buttons
gotta love hot melt glue
it's like liquid duct tape
ok, time to try powering it on without any HID, no HDD, no RAM... let's see what happens :P
ah crud
I took the power button off :P
 
12:20 AM
page 66 and onward is about the display
4 philips 4.0x2.5 screws only. Hmm
 
Bob
interesting
it won't power on without the keyboard connected
@Hennes thanks
 
Google is your friend (your friend with all your secrets)
 
Bob
last time I tried, I only found an unofficial disassembly guide
not that I tried very hard
 
People keep asking how to do something like that on SU. I keep searching for brand plus service manual (or maintenance manual since a consistent name is beyond humans). Sometimes you get lucky
When doing this myself I like to have that manual ready, some tape (to tape screws near their holes) and a camera (a phone with a camera will do)
Then again, maybe I just do not earn enough to risk stuff (computer+pocketmoney afteexpenses and saving was $100 per month. So laptop is a year worth of savings)
 
Bob
12:35 AM
I don't care much about the screws...
got a whole bag of replacement screws, enough for the whole laptop, that cost about $3
nice if I don't need them, but it's not a big issue
@Hennes there's a reason I'm trying ot repair it, not replace the damn thing
 
Hhe. I also subscribe to the 'waste not' group. If you can fix it, fix it. Do not buy a new one.
 
Bob
just... refrain from forcing anything
...damn sturdy 'screw cuovers'
 
@KronoS commented. hope that helps
 
Bob
I. Hate. Snap. Fit.
Effing bit of plastic just snapped off :\
..anyone got any ideas?
 
12:59 AM
Sit back, get a cup of coffee, walk in the garden. Then look at it fresh?
 
Bob
perhaps
 
Bob
let's see.. taking the screen off and flexing the cable did nothing
 
learnt a new command today
 
Bob
I hope the connection to the screen itself is fine, since I can't get in there (snap)
 
1:03 AM
tr rocks
 
Bob
great. if I slam the screen shut somewhat hard, it works
o.O
not well though
ah crap
...wtf can cause this?
 
o0
maybe a loose connection?
 
Bob
ignore the black patch to the upper right, the camera doesn't capture that properly for some reason (it's the same shade of grey as the rest)
 
looks like a bad connection
 
Bob
is it using the wrong refresh rate or something? o.O
@JourneymanGeek bleh
I've already reconnected the MB side
stupid snap fits won't let me open the screen side without breaking something
 
1:11 AM
lol
you need a spudger
 
Bob
before slamming it shut, it's just white with a whole lot of black/grey single pixel wide lines running horizontally :\
@JourneymanGeek ?
 
thing that you can push between cracks to pry apart snap fitted things
 
Bob
:\
well! time to break a screen!
eff, that's a whole two hours wasted
 
that tends to happen
 
Bob
I think I'll just install a trial version of Outlook on the desktop for now -_-
 
1:14 AM
fi
 
Bob
thanks @Hennes, @JourneymanGeek
I'll report back in 30-60 mins, probably :P
actually, I need to make sure the MB doesn't have problems.. external monitor time
 
Bob
1:29 AM
...
The display side of teh cable is taped on?!
 
ya
thats normal
transparent amber tape or metal tape?
 
Bob
,,,
clear tape
...there. fixed o.O
the connection from the display controller to the MB was fine
the connection from the display itself to the controller, to the lower right in that picture... I just lifted the clamp thingy and put it back down :S
didn't even pull the cable out
well, just saved ~$100
now to figure out how to put it back together
...fml
thanks for the help @JourneymanGeek, @Hennes.
especially that service manual. I could strip it down to the point where only the lid and MB are attached, but not any further without that :P
 
1:58 AM
oh
thats kapton tape
its really cool stuff
Kapton is a polyimide film developed by DuPont which can remain stable in a wide range of temperatures, from −273 to +400 °C (−459 – 752 °F / 0 – 673 K). Kapton is used in, among other things, flexible printed circuits (flexible electronics) and thermal micrometeoroid garments, the outside layer of space suits. The chemical name for Kapton K and HN is poly(4,4'-oxydiphenylene-pyromellitimide). It is produced from the condensation of pyromellitic dianhydride and 4,4'-oxydiphenylamine. Kapton synthesis is an example of the use of a in step polymerization. The intermediate polymer, known ...
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek no, not that bit
that's on every FFC connector in this laptop
I weas referring to the clear plastic sticky on one side over the top of that :P
 
thats tape ;p
 
Bob
yep
 
oh
ya, thats tape ;p
 
Bob
my remark was more 'why do they use tape' than 'what is that clear plastic stuff' :P
 
2:09 AM
Wow, this is awesome :D A dream come true... the convergence is happening... the convergence is HERE!
 
ahh ;p
 
Got my Razr Maxx HD charging and connected to my big screen via a microHDMI-to-HDMI cable, with a Microsoft Wedge keyboard and Sculpt Mouse connected over bluetooth... goodbye huge desktop, this is all I need 90% of the time :D
 
lol
yay technology
 
and i can watch HD video with it on the play store O_O
 
ok. something seems to be wrong with my VPS ._.
 
2:21 AM
there's an app called C4Droid which lets you write and compile native C/C++, Qt and/or SDL code on Android
what's wrong with your VPS, honey? (</notintendingtobecreepy>)
can I SSH in and give it some attenshun? :3
 
I can't ssh in ;p
its sitting at the login screen
 
then you need to come at it from out of band
 
naw
its just being llaggy
 
or borked networking, or boot sequence hosed, or...
 
just slow ;p
anyway checked what I wanted to check
i don't understand it tho
2
A: Super simple pipe use

Nicole HamiltonYou could use a "here" document using the << in-line i/o redirection operator. The shell looks for whatever token you give (in this example, eof) as the end-of-file marker for the here doc. sort << eof 1 2 3 4 eof Another way would be to iterate over the values, echoing them into ...

or how hennes' answer actually works either
 
2:26 AM
here documents are pretty lol
 
they are quite funky, yes
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek well, a pipe redirects a program's stdout to another's stdin
cat will wait for input from stdin if not given any arguments
 
that is not a pipe is it?
Iahh
 
Bob
which it then writes to stdout
which gets piped
 
the pipe I get
 
Bob
2:28 AM
<< writes from a file to stdin, normally
with a heredoc, which also uses the << redirector/operator/thingy, you're sending multiline input to stdin
until the end delimiter
I think
I've never actually used heredocs, just searched them up at some point while trying to understand a weird command :P
 
Bob
A here document (also called a here-document, a heredoc, a hereis, a here-string or a here-script) is a way of specifying a string literal in command line shells including Unix shells (sh, csh, ksh, Bash and zsh) and in programming or scripting languages such as Perl, PHP, Python, PowerShell and Ruby. It preserves the line breaks and other whitespace (including indentation) in the text. Some languages allow variable substitution and command substitution inside the string. The most common syntax for here documents is << followed by a delimiting identifier, followed, starting on the n...
string literal perserving whitespace. ok.
 
the person who answered that question apparently wrote her own bash clone, so would know wierd obscure crap like that ;p
 
Bob
lol
 
Bob
2:30 AM
she gives good answers
 
same idea ;p
She knows what she's talking about. So its useful to try to understand the slightly more obscure ones ;p
 
Bob
what's kinda a problem is she prefers to use POSIX shells on Windows, so gives solutions with them even when there's not-too-difficult built-in methods to do the same
 
(even if, naturally I'm convinced the other answers missed the intent of the answer)
lol
 
Bob
fine when the asker already has a POSIX shell installed, but otherwise can be a bit troublesome
 
I do too, ._.
well not nix shells
I have ports installed of a few *nixlike tools
still learning to use them tho ;p
 
Bob
2:33 AM
of course, unless they specifically say they can't run third party programs, those answers aren't wrong :P
...put laptop together. find two extra screws. take it apart again.
 
well, not really
what he really wants is a way to take a list of numbers, and output them seperated by newlines
the use of sort is a misdirection - which is why I asked
 
Bob
ah
that title needs work too
super simple pipe use -_-
uh oh. I have another two extra screws
 
Bob
2:54 AM
!@$@#$!#$!@$!@#$
...
I finally closed the laptop.
All screws in.
And the screen is back to white with lines across it.
seriously?!
 
was it working properly when it was opened up?
 
Bob
yea
sigh
oh, there. closing and reopening the lid seems to have worked
this'll have to do for now :\
O.O
I just got that in Thunderbird
interesting... three year old bug: bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483760
 
Bob
3:35 AM
I don't understand the "don't touch" warnings on the back of the LCD panel
if someone managed to get that far, that's a pretty pointless warning
 
lol
quite
I do also suspect those connectors are pretty fragile
 
Bob
3:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek the cable itself, too
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Q: How can I murder people and lie about it?

Ben BrockaMy character is a Halfing Rogue specializing in lying and ranged sneak kills with a concealed crossbow. With the Childlike and Pass for Human feats plus max ranks in Bluff I'm crazy good at a believable lie if I act like a child and in theory I could eat the impossible bluff check with the -20, ...

ignoring the question body or the place it was asked
the title is very... off
that came up on the hot questions list :P
 
 
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Bob
4:58 AM
Is Thursday telemarketing day or something? o.O
 
 
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Bob
6:08 AM
Urgh... that font...
 
 
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7:22 AM
Hello Superusers. I have come back from the dead to announce the following...

I am now the proud owner of Σ83.com or xn--83-ubc.com

That is all for meow.
 
cool
any specific significance to that @iglvzx?
 
It's a cat!
 
...
XD
so it is.
or a busty, bispectacled catgirl
 
Anyway. I go to go! Holiday wishes from eNom Technical Support <3
 
@iglvzx meow
 
7:33 AM
@iglvzx! you missed the contest!
also you work for eNom?
 
 
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10:26 AM
@Bob Times New Roman?
 
Bob
11:02 AM
@HaydnWVN Dunno, but the font is horrible.
Times New Roman would be the font family or typeface or something.
The font.. well, the side and/or the way they bolded it, etc... it just looks... bad?
 
@JourneymanGeek Writing your own shell is part of schooling over here
 
o0
Thats somewhat hardcore
 
11:21 AM
Whuh, a win-7 badge?
I did not realize those existed
 
12:26 PM
This is one place where I do not want to work (unless allowed to kill the current network setup)
0
Q: How to share network connection (without mentioned issues) between tho computers with the same MAC address?

kokbiraWell, I'm using a network connection where IPs are provided by DHCP locked with MAC addresses of the machines. As there are a lot of computer and other devices connected, there isn't enough addresses for all of them, so all 256 addresses from 192.168.1.XXX are already reserved for the 256 machine...

Note that the title seems a bit different from the question.
 
12:38 PM
@Hennes Ugh...
 
Gems like "You cannot share folders or printer between the machines with the same MAC." are..uhm, well, undescribeable
 
I'm looking to get one of those "compartmentalized" cabinets that separate the PSU from motherboard. Are they worth the extra cost?
 
I so no reason why that would be an advantage
 
This seems to be a feature in more expensive cases and I'm not so sure whether it is all that convenient, I'm not actually that worried about air flow or aesthetics .
 
In fact, share the rest of the tower and the PSU fan for better cooling
 
12:45 PM
@HaydnWVN I think it's because I killed the power when win 8 was installing updates.
 
A decent tower is worth a lot though.
You can keep using it for dozens of years (or more)
 
That is true
want to have a look at the one I have in mind?
I'm actually looking for advice or opinions about how convenient those cases are, because while I am inclined to get one. It might actually be a neat idea, but an impractical solution.
If interested to have a look: komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=648538
 
@ЯрославРахматуллин Did you flag your own question intentionally?
 
Yeah, no one seems interested
the one about grayscale x11
right ?
 
12:55 PM
perhaps there is a better way to delete my own wuestions?
 
Well, you can delete your own questions as you please
As long as there aren't upvoted answers
 
There should be a delete link below it
 
There's nothing wrong with leaving the question around for a couple months/years though :)
 
Am I too sci-fied by star trek or are people too biased about which chemical compounds are an absolute minimum for life to be possible?
 
1:42 PM
Easy front access (for cleaning the filters) is good. I am not sure about a fan at f
loor level. Those do a good job of collecting all dust. Drive bays (in either position) and cable management looks fine.
 
@Hennes Nowhere near enough drive bays. And only space for 1 PSU? Crazy talk :P
it is a heavy beast though...but does come with wheels and is sturdy enough to ride on...I do know that by experience btw :P
 
2:01 PM
How many drive bays do you need for a gaming desktop?
I get byejust fine with 6 in use
 
Bob
@Hennes Hmm.. Something to do with MAC addresses being defined as unique? :P
 
Yup. The same unique values. Uhmm... :)
 
Bob
@Hennes Wait. 256 machines (which doesn't seem to include the router itself) in a /24 subnet? o.O
 
Up to. He seems to reserve a MAC per machine. So more of a managed fixed IP via DHCP
And I already 'accidentily' wrote 255 instead of 256 in my answer
 
Bob
I'm a little more concerned with the fact that he goes through that many unique machines.
Considering the 192.168.1/24 subnet is more often used by home routers.
Most enterprise routers I've seen default to somewhere in 10/8 (though obviously not always the case)
@OliverSalzburg Ah, Kies...
@Hennes oh, I almost forgot. .255 was the broadcast address, right?
 
2:14 PM
Alles one in the hostpart is broadcast
 
Bob
wait, that's just for /24... which all works out in this case
 
Aye
 
Bob
so only 254 available address, including one for the router
 
Aye
 
Woah
The JetBrains Chrome extension is really intensely awesome
 
2:15 PM
The real solution is a modem (no DHCP, reset whenever needed). An IP for the modem. and behind that a router with a few subnets on different NICs
 
Chrome highlights live which node I'm currently editing in the IDE
So awesome...
 
and a decent firewall, which is something I do not trust on SOHO modems
 
Bob
@Hennes depends. if it's a simple case of block all inbound, that shouldn't be a problem
it's only when you start messing with the settings that things stuff up
 
Aye. But with 200 plus machines I suspect there is more to it
Which is an assumption on my part. Not based on known facts
 
Bob
2:18 PM
good point :P
 
I read it as an office with no IT person and a consumer ADSL line.
 
Bob
in fact, it may be safer to disable networking between those machines altogether, since it sounds like they may be owned/used by unknowns
@OliverSalzburg how smooth is that?
Firebug is annoyingly resource hungry with the highlighting
 
@Bob Extremely
 
Bob
....I guess my 50+ tabs don't help
brb, tab closing spree (again)
 
It works instantly. I move my cursor through the source, Chrome updates live
It's great on static pages, it just "injects" the changes. No page reloading
 
Bob
2:22 PM
This site was down pretty much the whole event. Some network admin is probably gonna get fired over this.
 
It's as WYSIWYG as it gets, I guess :D
@Bob Virgin Wines...
I both hate and admire that guy :D
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg huh?
 
@Bob 4th row, 2nd image on that page ;D
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg ...I normally see that Virgin logo on planes.
But which guy are you talking about?
 
@Bob Well, he's venturing into "everything"
Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson (born 18 July 1950) is an English business magnate, best known as the founder and chairman of Virgin Group of more than 400 companies. His first business venture was a magazine called Student at the age of 16. In 1970, he set up an audio-record mail-order business. In 1972, he opened a chain of record stores, Virgin Records, later known as Virgin Megastores. Branson's Virgin brand grew rapidly during the 1980s, as he set up Virgin Atlantic Airways and expanded the Virgin Records music label. Branson is the 4th richest citizen of the United Kingdom, a...
> founder and chairman of Virgin Group of more than 400 companies
Virgin Group Ltd. is a British multinational branded venture capital conglomerate company founded by business tycoon Richard Branson. Its core business areas are travel, entertainment and lifestyle and it consists of more than 400 companies worldwide. Virgin Group's date of incorporation is listed as 1989 by Companies House, who class it as a holding company; however Virgin's business and trading activities date to the 1970s. The net worth of Virgin Group as of September 2008 was £5.01 billion. Name The brand name "Virgin" arose when Branson and a partner were starting their first bus...
 
Bob
2:27 PM
ah that guy
 
2:54 PM
should I be worried ?
o_0
 
@HackToHell 93% doesn't sound too bad
 
It just means the other drives that ran the test are newer
"All the attributes of your hard disk are above the S.M.A.R.T. thresholds set by the manufacturer. This is good. "
 
@HackToHell The first two don't make any sense at all, throw that program out of the window...
As for the third, the distance changing might be more concerning; might just want to watch that every two weeks to see if it changes further or stays in place.
 
3:16 PM
@OliverSalzburg ok
@TomWijsman It's speedfan
High Fly Writes has slipped down a notch in 8 months
 
Bob
@HackToHell maximum time - average user :S
 
 
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5:02 PM
drops a needle * ping *
 
5:26 PM
Happy turkey day everyone
 
credit: SMBC Comics
 
Happy T-dose day.
 
 
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8:29 PM
@nhinkle Yes. I have been working at eNom since July. I am the "Israel G." in Tech Support (if you contact us) :)
 
8:52 PM
74
Q: What is the purpose of these holes on my wire stripper?

Antoine I have been using this wire stripper for a while, but I have always wondered what was the purpose of those holes in the center and above LOOP, and those teeth on the handles.

Very Super User relevant IMHO :D
 
9:07 PM
@iglvzx next time I'm up at UW I'll have to say hi ;)
 
9:37 PM
Humm, I just realized that my Arc Touch mouse is defective :D
Seems like it's supposed to turn off when flattened
Which is awesome, because I though that would have been a great idea :D
 
10:37 PM
Me again
after reinstalling windows, it's now stuck at update 64 of 128
been there for an hour?
Your thoughts, sympathy, would be appreciated
 
@fredley In Windows or during the reboot phase?
 
@fredley: this is why I like wsus offline update
 
During reboot
 
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Q: What do you do when you're not allowed to turn off the computer (but must)?

Oliver SalzburgWe've all been there. You're installing a new major system for a client and you're finishing up with installing all required updates and this happens. Image taken from petur.eu Or, more specifically, this is the one I am seeing right now (sorry for the German): The message is pretty clear. ...

 
Thanks
 
10:42 PM
@fredley It's not that helpful. But, good luck :)
long story short, just reboot ;P
 
Wish me luck...
If I end up where I was before I'm buying a new machine, this one is clearly dead
Hooray, login screen!
It's reset my desktop for some reason, but it seems intact
 
@fredley Windows updates taking between 1 and 10 hours is normal if you update the .net stuff
the 10 hours in case you do it on an old laptop (with 20GB PATA drive).
 
Never taken that long for me before...
240gb ssd...
 
I have. I got the laptop for one day. Got it around 9AM. Needed to be read the next day
Just a Dell C series. Celeron around 800 or 900Mhz, 256MB, fresh install of XP, and then windows update and more updates and yet more updates .....
It has not changed much though. Installa fresh win7 in vmware. Updates it... it needs half the time during updates for ther .net part
 
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