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Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
12:09 AM
@JourneymanGeek: It indeed is, I haven't used it for a long while though...
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
12:20 AM
@TomWijsman Just reread your question! I spent AGES on it... and... I got it completely wrong!!!
I read quicker than I should and could have sworn it was FTP Server and asking about speed limits :(
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@WilliamHilsum Can happen... I love the detail though.
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@TomWijsman completely redid the answer!
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@WilliamHilsum Hmm, please note that it's one file per connection.
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
I know... I am often transferring a few hundred - a few thousand at a time. if you are just doing single file transfers, it won't make a single difference.
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
But given Uninsipred's comment and my DOCSIS 3.0 connection I guess 10 is the way to go...
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
12:36 AM
I am going to add a bit to the end.. but yeah, I would always set it to 10 if you can
@TomWijsman Modified slightly
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@William: Okay, I'm gonna let the bounty run some more and if nobody else gives a scientific approach a shot the reputation is all yours... :)
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@TomWijsman No need... it's only 50... I didn't do it for the bounty... but, that is what bumped it to the front page (or the other answer) which is why I did answer it.... I just haven't been very active in the past few days and a lot has got past me!.... let it expire and keep the 50!
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@WilliamHilsum Bounties aren't kept when expired.
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@TomWijsman Are you sure? was that changed or has it always been that way?
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
12:59 AM
@WilliamHilsum Well, I remember you could get reputation back (or half of it) through putting up your own answer (which I might or might not do with actual tests), but it has been fixed such that you don't get any reputation back. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/16065/…
So in short, bounty reputation is spent.
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@TomWijsman Well, feel free to give it to me later then :P ... but, if there is any chance of you getting it back, by all means, I don't mind!
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@WilliamHilsum You could spent a bounty on another question if you really feel like; while you're add it, pretend like making a type by adding in an extra 0. Oh wait, you can't type out the value...
Gonna catch some sleep now, you should too. :)
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@TomWijsman Can't... so busy :( got to try and learn some more EF (feel so out of my comfort zone) and on top of that... my dad is coming back to England for just under 2 weeks... and... the boiler has gone! so... got to tidy up the cupboard and got a guy coming around in the morning... all action :(
oh... and I have to pick him up at the airport tomorrow night! (well, don't have to... but, I don't want him taking the train!)
think I just unloaded a lot of trouble... feels better getting it out! ... oh well. time to get on :(
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
Yeah, EF Code First looks simple, but it also hits me sometimes.
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Q: ADO.Net Entity Framework An entity object cannot be referenced by multiple instances of IEntityChangeTracker

PeterI am trying to save my contact, which has references to ContactRelation (just the relationship of the contact, married, single, etc) and Country. But everytime I try to save my contact, which is validated I get the exception "ADO.Net Entity Framework An entity object cannot be referenced by multi...

c# entity-framework ado.net
Had that error today, seems I made a Database object (derived from DbContext) in one place and then in another place I also made such Database object, and then I obtained a User class from one of the Database objects and I used it on the other one. So, it tried to track it twice at that point because there were two Datbase objects.
Solved it by passing the first Database object through a parameter to my Authentication Helper.
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
Just talking like that, I feel out of my depth! I understand it on paper (or screen!), but talking about it makes me feel funny!... I understand the majority, but, my main problem at the moment is coming from Foreign keys, annotations and related object loading
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
1:08 AM
(It's simply something that takes Database and Session now, and then has two procedures [one checks if the client is authenticated, the other returns the User object that belongs to the authentication]
@WilliamHilsum Yeah, this was kind of a Foreigh Key problem but that's not explicit in Code First.
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
I wasn't the best, but, I was good at SQL, I really wish I did standard LINQ to SQL, but, I have a deadline and spent too long on it now to go back... but... i feel so uncomfortable - I am writing code that I am adapting, but, I have no idea why it works and it makes me feel awful
@TomWijsman I will try to have a read through a bit later then, thanks
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
It's like the user wants to buy some articles, then there would be a foreign key between them so that articles are linked to an user. I used an user from one database context to remove an article in another database context, so it tried to track the user twice...
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
Oh, and I have no idea about [ConcurrencyCheck] / byte[] when used with the ... (can't remember name)... watched a video from pluralsight and it made me more confused than I was before I watched!
I think I understand you there! Just about...
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
...which would give an inconsistent state as you can't have one context tell that a user still has the article [perhaps it returns a null article because it's deleted] and it's rid in the other context .
Or in layman terms, what I did was use a mirror that doesn't respond to my body movements as the mirror is too dumb to track it twice so I should only use reality. :P
Er well, it required fiddling with the core of my whole article system which had some really buggy side effects, like suddenly all products (on my developer machine) from the distributors available to be bought because a database context didn't change anymore...
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
Hmm... confusing :/
.... I need to get on (sorry)... goodnight, and, i'll catch you later!
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
1:17 AM
Yeah, I just needed the database context to be the same and not two that work next-to-each-other...
But, just saying, I kind of have similar problems/feelings about EF as you do. Where as the Code First interface looks simple to me, there are always those things that don't seem to work without some fiddling...
Good point, I've extended my sleep time to go sleep by another 15 minutes.
Night, good luck on your EF studying/project/...
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@TomWijsman lol, thanks,,, you too!
 
 
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:20 AM
erf
superuser.com/questions/337649/… this is partially a 'buying recommendation', partially not
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:43 AM
hmm. Not an SU thing, but anyone have suggestions for exotic OSes that run on modern systems?
wants to mess around with the junker before i get a proper OS on it
 
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Gareth
Gareth
6:27 AM
hello
 
Sathya
Sathya
hi @Gareth
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
6:51 AM
hello
 
Gareth
Gareth
such amazing weather here in Beijing at the minute (normally extremely heavy pollution) - the cynic in me is wondering what's the reason for it :P
given that they do have those silver iodide rockets they fire up into the sky to make it rain
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
7:18 AM
morning all
@Gareth I always find it worrying when "pollution" is considered "weather" :/
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
 
Gareth
Gareth
ha, it's true that
actually it's not pollution, it's censorship. The government censor the sky, they don't want people to have too much blue in their life
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there's no blue in the Chinese flag
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
the smoke of the great firewall?
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
lol
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
eh superuser.com/questions/337666/… i see so many of these.
 
Gareth
Gareth
7:26 AM
if there ever is a revolution one day in the future, I really hope they do the old "nine familial exterminations" on the stupid lot who maintain those bloody firewalls
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
sad thing is, using a livecd might end up allowing for data recovery in a lot of cases
@Gareth: blah, send them out to the villages, with no internet ;p
 
Gareth
Gareth
this should be the fate for the firewall fiddlers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations
this got posted all over the Chinese net but was censored already:telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8773715/…
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
heh
 
Gareth
Gareth
all the imgur/i.imgur/i.stack.imgur mess should be sorted out now, except for a few truly broken images in a few places
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just a few more rounds and all the images across SU for any domain should be done * fingers crossed *
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
blimey, good effort :)
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
7:45 AM
ooo, they're just adding "bounty remarks" so you can give a reason why you're setting on (might not be visible on SU yet)
 
Sathya
Sathya
well @Waffles also mentioned free bounty rep can be offered a while back on chat, but meta isn't responding well to that suggestion @dma
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Q: Free bounties, good idea or worst idea?

wafflesHigh rep users are very precious about their "reputations". So precious that they sometimes avoid downvoting cause of the 1 point rep loss. If you look at a few of our high rep users a pattern emerges. They do not bounty stuff. Nonetheless, they happen across pretty awesome questions, that ma...

feature-request bounty
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Sathya yeah, I'd seen that. Don't like the idea either tbh
 
Sathya
Sathya
why not?
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
Giving high-rep users free bounties seems a bit pointless... they've got the rep they need anyway (and we shouldn't encourage them to hoard it any more than they already do) and most of them are prolific answerers who probably don't need that many answers anyway
If we're going to award free bounties it should be to users with great questions - so when you've got ten Q's with a score over 10 you get one free bounty (or something like that, for example).
 
Sathya
Sathya
8:02 AM
@DMA57361 :-s the proposal mentions that the high rep guys have the power to start a bounty, w/o incurring a loss in their rep.
not anything about them getting rep - and no, rep is there for hoarding - atleast majority of the users do that.
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Sathya well, it's proposing that
and if they get a free bounty worth 100, isn't that effectively the same as giving them 100 free rep?
 
Sathya
Sathya
@DMA57361 ? no bounty is earned, if the user who started the bounty is awarded the bounty
that's how the system was - I don't think the recent changes to anyone putting on a bounty has had any changes to that mechanism
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Sathya the proposal is about allowing high rep users to give out bounties without spending their own points
it's the same as giving someone £5 to spend in a shop. Yeah, they don't get to keep the £5, but they get to spend it... so they're effectively £5 richer
really, what I suspect they want to do is get the "best" users to help identify the "best" questions - but the "best" users are usually just prolific answerers anyway, who are going to have to go out of their way to find questions to add these free bounties to (and thus, won't bother)
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
8:37 AM
hahaha, I've just earned the support bronze badge on Meta.SU :D
 
Sathya
Sathya
@DMA57361 that makes sense
@DMA57361 :p I earned it for discussion, I think I'd earned it earlier for support
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
8:53 AM
@Sathya apparently I have the discussion one as well, you beat me to both thou it seems D:
 
Sathya
Sathya
@DMA57361 .. seems the discussion badge I received was a silver one..
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
O_o nice!
you and Jeff are the only silver tag ppl on meta.SU, impressive
 
nhinkle
nhinkle
You have until THIS SATURDAY to submit your order for the Super User Contest if you won something. If you are one of the following people, check your email right now, including the spam box if you don't see anything from me. If you don't order by then, you may not receive the prize you want. @gareth @danielbeck @lordtorgamus @sblair @tomwijsman @soandos @simonsheehan @berk98 @mechanicalsnail
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Sathya
Sathya
@DMA57361 :D
@DMA57361 I thought I'd get the Gold badge for support - ya know outsourcing and all :P
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
lol
in The Bridge, 9 hours ago, by Dave McClelland
user image
mildy comical
 
Sathya
Sathya
9:08 AM
hehe
 
slhck
slhck
morning all!
meh, someone stole my comfy office chair!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@slhck: You need to hunt him down, and teach him the error of his dastardly chairnapping ways
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@slhck which is why you should always booby trap hide them when not is use
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
also, i have a hard drive with unspecified problems to play with. My favourite!
@DMA57361: we don't want to risk getting blood on the chair...
 
slhck
slhck
I think I found it in the next room. Weird! :P
@JourneymanGeek Ah, it's a red chair, so no worries!
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
9:13 AM
@JourneymanGeek booby trap != explosives or sharp objects :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@DMA57361: punji pits all around the chair?
ninja walrii?
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
O_o cripes, remind me not to touch @JourneymanGeek's stuff :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
and erf. I've come to a conclusion i have enough random spare parts to keep my dad's old PIV 1.5s running too long
 
nhinkle
nhinkle
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@DMA57361: the only reason there arn't random sharp objects on the floor is my dog
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@nhinkle: ... groan
well, i'm down to two PATA drives in the drive pool
one of which.. mysteriously seems to boot on a totally different system..
 
slhck
slhck
9:25 AM
btw @nhinkle Of course you can't buy a gift card with a gift card, thank you Amazon :P
Because that would've sorted out the problems.
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@slhck recursive gift cards?
 
slhck
slhck
@DMA57361 Sort of, yeah! Infinite gift card trading!
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
sounds fun
 
slhck
slhck
… if it were possible
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
 
 
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:30 AM
hmm, i found a molex -> SATA power converter. Which means if i end up getting a graphics card for the dell I can swap over to the beefier, non dell power supply with only one sata power output
 
slhck
slhck
12:00 PM
do you guys happen to know which kind of device I have to buy? It should be hooked up a sound system and be able to play music from a DLNA source.
What is that?
possibly with a remote control or a web interface
 
tombull89
tombull89
@slhck something running XBMC?
Hell, you can get TV's that support DLNA.
 
slhck
slhck
@tombull89 I know, I have a TV that does it
but it's too complicated to listen to music on it and I don't want a full TV running all day long
I mean, weren't there … web radios?
do these things have DLNA now?
 
tombull89
tombull89
Not sure. DLNA/home streaming is something I want to look into, got other things ahead of it though.
 
slhck
slhck
Hm. I'll browse Amazon if I can find something. If not, I'll just revive an old Mac Mini or something.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@slhck: apparently they are called digital media adaptors....
i think
 
slhck
slhck
12:12 PM
Digital media receiver
A digital media receiver (DMR), also commonly referred to as a media extender, media streamer, digital media hub, or digital media adapter (DMA), is a home entertainment device that can connect to a home network to retrieve digital media files (such as music, pictures, or video) from a personal computer or other networked media server and play them back on a home theater system or TV. The DLNA organization refers to these devices as digital media renderers (DMR). Functionality and capability A digital media receiver can connect to the home network using either a wireless (IEEE 802.11...
looks like it!
but most of them will probably also do video, I guess
well thanks @JourneymanGeek, I guess that would do
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
yesh
I wonder if a low powered arm system would do the trick tho...
but eh, i'm just trying to find a excuse to get a raspberry pi ;p
 
slhck
slhck
haha
me too
 
 
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DMA57361
DMA57361
2:32 PM
QR codes are fun
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
2:44 PM
weighted companion QR?
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
lol, sure why not :)
 
Sathya
Sathya
nice
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
3:31 PM
Is anyone here a Notepad++ user?
 
Sathya
Sathya
yeah @WilliamHilsum
 
Sathya
Sathya
3:50 PM
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
4:14 PM
@Sathya I am no expert at it, but, I used to have the ability to format html/xml, I am sure I never installed any addons... I just installed it on my new PC, and, I can't see those options anywhere :/ Can't even remember what it was called/a part of... any ideas?
 
surfasb
surfasb
@Sathya Nothing scares me more than the controller issues. The wear and tear of SSD's are an over-exaggerated topic IMO.
If you remember when Seagate had their click of death episode, it was attributed to updates to the disk controller. It just shows how difficult it is to make reliable disk controllers. The code in those bad boys are probably many decades old because it isn't something just ANYONE can modify.
That should be the biggest concern of SSD buyers today, not this write wear BS I keep hearing about.
 
Daniel Beck
Daniel Beck
4:31 PM
Hey @slhck weren't there SU branded mugs available as prize a week ago?
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@WilliamHilsum they're all under the "language" menu here (version 5.7)
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@DMA57361 Sorry, I have that... I mean, I could throw in a chunk of unformatted XML or HTML and it would add spacing, indentation and more... I am sure it wasn't with any addin (I never installed any), but, I can't see how to do this any more
 
slhck
slhck
@DanielBeck I don't know if they were SU branded ... I guess it was only a SO version
 
DMA57361
DMA57361
@WilliamHilsum ahhh, an auto reformatter
dunno then I'm afraid
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@DMA57361 Ok, no problem, thanks anyway
 
Daniel Beck
Daniel Beck
4:38 PM
@slhck I was sure I saw an SU mug option.
 
slhck
slhck
@Daniel Not too sure anymore :/
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@DanielBeck When I talked in the ask a mod room, I am pretty sure that what was said was that apart from Tshirts, there is no SU branded stuff, just SO/SE... Pick what you want and they are looking in to printing/making SU specific versions - may just be a wait, or, you can just get the SE/SO version.
 
Daniel Beck
Daniel Beck
@WilliamHilsum I don't think I qualify as an SO mug user with my three-digit rep there ;)
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@DanielBeck hehe!
every rep counts!
 
Sathya
Sathya
@WilliamHilsum it might have been part of a plugin - TextFX
@surfasb never the 7200.11 had those buggy firmware issues too right?
 
surfasb
surfasb
4:47 PM
Ya, the Barracuda 7200s I believe. The 1.5TB drives IIRC.
 
Sathya
Sathya
the series yes, but it affected all capacity drives - at least that's what I observed
 
Daniel Beck
Daniel Beck
@WilliamHilsum Owning the mug should give instant +1000 rep. They would fly off the shelves...
 
Sathya
Sathya
@WilliamHilsum yep, TextFX was built-in earlier, not any more. Install it, you'll get the menu
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@Sathya Thanks... got it, now need to get that dll!
@DanielBeck hehe, I will buy 100x mugs! :)
 
surfasb
surfasb
@WilliamHilsum LULZ
 
Daniel Beck
Daniel Beck
4:56 PM
@WilliamHilsum Who wouldn't?
Regarding that site that copies SU content, could someone help me in finding the author attributions when they copy answers? I'm unable to find them, but with so many identical posts with up votes I can't shake the feeling I'm just blind.
 
slhck
slhck
@DanielBeck Where are the answers on that site?
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@Sathya Lol, I failed... Visit site just is generic... download doesn't work. I found one dll, loaded it to the folder, tried it and it crashed notepad++!
Oh well... Guess dreamweaver still has some benefits... just annoying to use
 
Daniel Beck
Daniel Beck
@slhck Very few topics ;)
See comment on meta for a link
 
slhck
slhck
Correct, they seem to neglect that.
 
surfasb
surfasb
@WilliamHilsum Ughh, Dreamweaver. You are a more brave man than me.
 
tombull89
tombull89
5:59 PM
how...how did we miss this?
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Q: How can I set up Microsoft BOB on my computer?

Peter OlsonI have a 64-bit Windows 7 laptop that I would like to run Microsoft BOB on. How can I obtain a copy of Microsoft BOB and how could I set it up?

windows-7 installation
 
William Hilsum
William Hilsum
@surfasb I really don't like it... but... the formatting features work
 
surfasb
surfasb
@tombull89 We need a new wiki tag!!
 
tombull89
tombull89
6:18 PM
Gah. I've bitten the bullett with my DDWRT/PXE boot question.
Dammit, Tom. This is almost identical to what I want to do.
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A: How to LAN boot Windows from single installation simulaneously?

Tom WijsmanUse WDS to provide a WinPE image (that contains a RDC client) using the RAMDISK method over PXE. The rest is an exercise for the reader, I don't know which parts of this you are capable of doing and which you are not. Technet includes a lot of information on these indivdual subjects, so that sho...

 
 
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Mokubai
Mokubai
8:51 PM
Last three questions by this dude are completely off-topic...
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
9:48 PM
Just got an email about a question...this person wanted me to be a consultant for some VMware question o.o
And pay me.
But I'll do that free.
 
 
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:06 PM
@tombull89: I can answer the ms bob question partially in a bit ;p
dang, the site that used to have MS Bob hosted dosen't have it any more
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@JourneymanGeek I'm downloading it from a uh...alternative source, then uploading it.
Assuming there's enough seeders for the 15MB download..
Or not...heh. That isn't convenient.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
i'm wouldn't link it, personally
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Oh why?
Oh, might be illegal.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:26 PM
/s/might be/is
hm. I didn't realise i had so many spare Sata cables
 

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