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12:00 AM
Maybe it's intentional to compensate, because low rep users can't do review queues?
Oh i had one downvoted answer and i deleted it, thanks @Catija
@U11-Forward "all answers need to have a positive score", so the script counts your 1st 10 answers of the time frame and guess what, there is a 0 on the 2nd answer (not your #2)
2 hours ago, by Yaakov Ellis
@Mithical they do not have to be to different questions. But only counts if they are bit deleted or closed, and all of them have a positive score
@U11-Forward so maybe I'm right and you need to delete those 0 question for a while
@Vickel No that not true tho, glorfindel has the hat but has few 0 voted answers
@Vickel The problem the deleted downvoted wuestion I did
12:10 AM
@U11-Forward ah ok, so delete this one?
@Vickel I did
@U11-Forward hopefully you won't need to start all over again...
Prolly have to
I am worried cuz I might lose my first place since I will have to do stuff and have very little time for Bash
@U11-Forward don't do it so fast... WB it ends on January 4th 2021 (a good year)
@YaakovEllis Is it true that a person won't get the Rep Hunter hat even if they have 10 upvoted answers in the same day, but the person has one downvoted answer that he deleted. Is that true?
I think I have to get off PC bye!
12:24 AM
/o
12:40 AM
o/
1:03 AM
Any theories for Movin’ On Up?
No...
since it's movin' on up, maybe it's related to upvotes?
And reaching rep 2020 doesn't help to get a hat
@ppwater Is it across 3 different sites?
@Panda what do you mean?
@ppwater Was the 2020 rep all earned on one site?
@Panda Yes
1:07 AM
I recall last time it needed 2020 rep in total across three different Stack Exchange sites.
Ah, okay.... that's gonna be hard.
Hmm but it’s across 15 days
1:26 AM
Does Edward require a consecutive five-day period? “Each day during a 5-day period, ask a positively scored question and have no negatively scored, closed or deleted questions.”
Since the criteria for the Curious badge makes it clear it need not be consecutive “Ask a well-received question on 5 separate days.”
11 hours ago, by Catija
The badge was never really involved in the process, the hat just has the same trigger.
2:18 AM
How can I earn the Mariachi hat?
2:37 AM
In the usual way: by doing the necessary prerequisites.
Movin' On Up: Post an accepted answer with lesser votes compared to a competing answer on the same post
 
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4:21 AM
@U11-Forward true
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4:55 AM
Does the Edward hat work on the site where I already have the Curious badge?
@AJ No, don't think so
@AJ It's not related to the Curious badge, apart from having the same criteria.
15 hours ago, by Catija
The badge was never really involved in the process, the hat just has the same trigger.
@YaakovEllis Could you confirm if Edward requires a consecutive five-day period or 5 separate days will do too? Exact criteria: “Each day during a 5-day period, ask a positively scored question and have no negatively scored, closed or deleted questions.”
 
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6:51 AM
I got two dozen Vexillologists overnight, for posts I flagged as Very Low Quality / Not an Answer / Rude/Abusive / Spam and all of which (AFAICT) have been subsequently deleted.
So perhaps it's "vote/flag a question and it gets closed, or flag an answer and it gets deleted".
Close votes are technically flags too, so that would fit the name of the hat.
I added a comment on my own post with 12 comments and didn't get a hat
7:43 AM
@AJ So the trigger is to have accepted answer lower score than other answers?
8:06 AM
@double-beep For which hat?
@Glorfindel same here
8:28 AM
Sorry if this has been asked, but what's the Quarantined Hair hat?
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Q: Winter Bash 2020 hat list 👒 🎩

GlorfindelWinter Bash 2020 has started and the hats (and masks) are listed below. As always, there are only two answers: one for the secret hats, and one for the regular hats. The secret hat list will be updated as we learn them. Please, only edit the secret hat answer with definitive and correct triggers....

@ouflak it's "Wear a hat on any site"
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@Panda The Curious badge doesn't require the five days to be consecutive. You just need it to be different days (ie: don't post all your five questions the same day)
8:45 AM
It will be very funny
to see who googles best
the tire fire is near.
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So, what are the current theory for the secrets hat? Anywhere I could saw them?
6 hours ago, by CinCout
Movin' On Up: Post an accepted answer with lesser votes compared to a competing answer on the same post
In the hat list Luuklag just linked. If the triggers are confirmed they're edited in, there's speculation in the comments :)
And there's speculation across chatrooms on SE, and in this room...
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Ah yeah, I should have though to check the comments under the secret hat answer ^^
Where to sign souls for winterbash?
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@YaakovEllis Yesterday, I did the trigger for "Answer an old question with no answers" (here) but didn't get the hat. Is it because the question already had a deleted answer? (the question is from Jul 28, so I believe it's old enough)
9:00 AM
from 2019 or older
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@Mithical Ah yeah, so not old enough then ^^'
Well, I guess I won't be earning this badge on IPS then :/
@Ael Oh thanks!
@AnkitSharma I'll take them.
Can't promise any good returns though :P
Sound like risky business
Isn't anything that involves trading souls risky?
9:07 AM
I thought satan give good returns
Or at least it looks like a good return in start
Uff bug fix took my hat :/
Just got Disciple and Balalawhatever on a site after responding to a comment on one of my answers
Did it get any upvote @CinCout?
@Luuklag nope
Did you upvote the question?
@Mithical The question that I answered? Yes I did
but the comments were from a different user, not the OP
9:16 AM
I think that makes the trigger for one 'upvote a question that you answer' and for the other 'leave a comment on one of your own posts'? I had the same combination of hats and things done yesterday...
@Tinkeringbell so 2 hats and 2 triggers. Now which is which?
I upvoted a question I answered and didn't get it. Maybe the question must have positive score?
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@Tinkeringbell 'leave a comment on one of your own posts' I didn't do that and still had the badge
(on IPS)
@Ael Hmm. Can you remember doing anything else that may have triggered it?
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@Tinkeringbell I didn't do that either " 'upvote a question that you answer'" x)
I went through the review queue and left some comment and downvoted and flagged
I edited some stuff too
9:22 AM
Hmm. I did leave a comment before getting the Disciple/balalaika hats, but I can't remember doing any downvoting, flagging or editing before getting the other
@Tinkeringbell I did edit my own answer after the comment
the order of appearance is always first Disciple followed by Balala
Oh! I did edit my own post, in the grace period!
I think.
Or it was Shadow's edit on my post that gave me the hat XD
@Tinkeringbell uhh. We are back to square one arent we
any discoveries for secret hats?
Gonna start answering in one hour!
9:36 AM
I think Vexillologist might be "flag an answer and have the flag be marked helpful"
Think so, yes. That's the only activity I have on Freelancing (automatic SmokeDetector flag, I think) and I have the hat there
I believe it's flag or close vote something and have it be successful
9:52 AM
So weird. Got Vexillologist only on medical science, I didn't really do anything there.
nada.
So it means.... only visiting something?
wait, maybe I flagged or voted to close?
ohhh... I flagged answer as offensive.
Thanks to Smokey for the hat, I guess. :D
So maybe trigger is "flag as spam or offensive after not being active in a site for a while"?
no
because I got it on Meta
I just got Cordovan on SO. The two things I did recently: 1. Posted 1 upvoted comment. 2. Started to answer a question, but then discarded it. I'll try discarding an answer on another site.
@Tinkeringbell I commented on three posts, one of the comments you upvoted. After that series I gained both hats
@Shadow10YearsWizard I got a bunch of them last night
On all those sites I flagged things as spam
thx to smokey
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@Eran It's probably about your comment. I go Cordovan on IPS and I did wrote an answer but I didn't discard it (while I wrote and discarded on answer on Meta.SE and didn't get this hat)
(and I did write a bunch of comment on IPS but not on any other sites)
10:03 AM
@Ael In that case it's an easy one if only one comment is required.
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@Eran Was the post edited after you commented? Because it could be linked to that as well
(which would make it a harder trigger)
@Ael there was an edit (even though it wasn't related to my comment, but I guess the logic of the trigger has no way of knowing that).
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For the "Soapbox" hat, do you know how long I should wait before getting the hat? And if any interaction from another user is needed?
> Ask a question with the [discussion] tag on a meta site that gets a score of 2 or more and receives 2 or more answers.
@Ael You might need an upvote, so have one ;)
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10:08 AM
@Tinkeringbell Thanks :D
@Mithical Where did you find those informations?
@Ael As for an answer... I'd have to hunt tonight ;)
the WB2020 site, expanded information
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@Mithical Thanks :D
@Tinkeringbell \o/
@Luuklag yeah but it's not just that, otherwise many more would get.
So flag as spam/offensive plus another unknown criteria.
I just got a hat called "Cruse of Oil." Anybody else seen that one?
10:13 AM
nope
Now I got Disciple and Balalaika at the same time on SO. No idea how
although makes sense it'd pop up around now, for the last night of chanukah...
@JacobB sounds like a new one
@CinCout Yep, It just got added to the list of secret hats.
I have no idea what I did though, because I did several things.
@JacobB haha you answered my question :P
10:19 AM
I think I upvoted a few comments and upvoted an answer and a question... and maybe something else.
Cruse of Oil is likely just for participating on the 18th (AKA the last night of Chanukah)
I've just received it now as well
@Mithical But it's not the 18th
It's usually +/- 14h from UTC midnight of that day
(because timezones)
10:23 AM
@JacobB same here
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@Mithical Same
@Mithical what actions does participating entail>
voting, posting
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(after I went looking for something to vote on and I ended up downvoting, voting to delete and flagging as low quality)
@Mithical i didnt get the hat on any of the sites i have been participating
10:29 AM
Within the past.... 29 minutes?
does meta count?
got the oil hat
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@YaakovEllis are the bans from the game obvious, or does it just silently discard leaderboard entries?
Never mind, bad approach. It's fine ^^"
10:57 AM
Miracle of the cruse of oil (Hebrew: נֵס פַּךְ הַשֶּׁמֶן‎) is an Aggadah depicted in the Babylonian Talmud as one of the reasons for Hanukkah. The story of the miracle, as described in the Talmud, occurred after the liberation of the Temple in Jerusalem during the Maccabean Revolt, and describes how the finding of a jug of pure oil that was to be enough to light the lamp for one day; instead, it lasted for eight days. == Historical background == === The Maccabees === During the period of the second temple (~516 BCE-70CE), in around 200 B.C., Antiochus III, the Seleucid king of Syria, took control...
While Exodus 25:37 and Numbers 8:2–3 speak of seven lights being lit, Exodus 27:20–21 and Leviticus 24:2 specifies that a single "light" must be lit "continually", and must burn "from evening to morning". Thus, according to Jewish tradition, priests ensured that all seven menorah lights were lit during the day, while just one of them (the ner maaravi or ner tamid) burned through the entire night.
I now have it on 7 sites - in the last 10 minutes I have only upvoted or downvoted on those sites, so it's either voting or any activity
Yeah, date specific triggers usually require posting a question or an answer, or voting.
I can confirm posting an answer did it on IPS, now just a sec while I go vote on something on MSE :P
Yep, voting works too :)
can confirm review activities trigger it too
Yep. just got it on a few more sites after going and doing stuff there.
11:39 AM
@Mithical posted a question on arqade, got nothing.
has anyone gotten the oil hat on meta?
11:56 AM
@MordZuber I did on MSE
@MordZuber got it after a single vote.
It's only on MSE though - I checked a per-site meta and you don't get one
@Zoe yes
How's everyone doing today?
yeah, a single vote seems to be enough
but not sure if the post has to have specific properties
Hello guys!
12:12 PM
Hi
I just got Cruse Of Oil Hat!
25 hats still No.1
Well, I'm going more slowly. I had 12 hats this morning. Now 19, with a few easy hats I don't have yet.
@YaakovEllis I might have a idea to cheat your pony, but can't find out how to edit the JS directly from debugger xD
How did you get Cruse Of Oil Hat!
@U11-Forward have you checked all the 62279 pages of the leaderboard though? I may or may not have seen an user with a still unlisted hat....
12:20 PM
@ppwater just vote or post something today/tomorrow. It's date specific
also, I am still "tuned...", and it is staring snowing.
@Eran I already voted and posted, but no hat.. do I have to do it tomorrow?
@ppwater did you do it on a main site or on a meta? I'm not sure it works on meta (except of MSE). Or perhaps you have to wait a few minutes
main, meta, mse. all
Oh, just earned it.
Hello :)
12:25 PM
@Scratte Hi! :)
Question about the chat-hats: Does chatting on chat.stackexchange grant any hats? Or is it only chat.stackoverflow and chat.meta.stachexchange that will do that?
Yeah, I think chat.stackexchange gets a hat as well
I mean it seems hats are earned on "a site", from looking at accounts. And chat.stackexchange doesn't look like a site on it's own.
Oh, maybe...
Perhaps @YaakovEllis can answer this one then :)
I have a suspicion about a secret hat and I found some inconsistencies if hats can be earned from participating in, for example, this room as compared to any room on the other two servers.
12:34 PM
For the chat hat, it's awarded on the site that the room is parented to.
This room specifically is deparented so you can't earn it here.
Oops..
Well, that just strengthens my suspicions about the secret hat then :)
How can I tell if a room is de-parented? This room has the stackexchange logo in the lower right corner.
@Scratte How did you get Mariachi hat?
@Scratte Can one tell that this room is de-parented by the missing icon which one can see in this other room?
@U11-Forward I can't tell you that. It's a secret :)
@Scratte Ok...
@U11-Forward Honestly, I don't know :)
12:44 PM
@Scratte haha
Anybody has Give a Leg Up, or have any clue how to get it?
@U11-Forward I heared rumours about bounties
@Luuklag Oof how about Mariachi?
My suspicion on the Mariachi hat was to post a chat-message that gets 5 stars.
12:57 PM
I don't think so
because I didn't do that
3 stars at the most
@Mithical Wow you have that hat too!
I do, yes
But.. I just found a user that has the hat on multiple sites but does not seem to have even chatted on all those sites.
Link?
@Mithical but then Glorf should have it as well, because of the starred messages in this room, but he hasn't
1:00 PM
@Luuklag That's true!
@Mithical To the user? Is that allowed in here?
This room doesn't count for any chat triggered hats, since it has no parent site.
@Eran Yeah...
hmmm true
@Mithical You seem to have earned it on meta
1:07 PM
Mariachi is rather perplexing.
This user (meta.stackexchange.com/users/307546/user-6232128) seems to get it on multiple sites but doesn't have much activity.
Such as getting the hat on Physics.SE where the user is last seen in Nov.
@Panda Oof
I wonder if there is a bug in that hat ...
Possible...
@Panda yet has a lot of chat activity, including being starred on those sites
@Mithical Oh 100% must be chat then
1:13 PM
Yup!
So.. I could have been wrong on the number of stars :)
Apparently at least 1 starred message in chat will do.
Nope..
2 isn't enough. 4 seems to be sufficient. Haven't checked out 3 yet.
@Panda Well I have starred messages here but only 1 star :-(
@Panda THAT avatar........
1:17 PM
@U11-Forward Doesn't work here; there's no parent site.
@U11-Forward Here doesn't count. It must be a parented chat or one of the other site-servers
I know
@Derpy HAHA first thing I saw when visiting the profile
On Stackoverflow chat i have few too!
1:19 PM
Testing 3.. for science :)
@Panda Is that parented?
@Scratte Yep, Meta.SE
@Scratte Yup for meta SE
Ahh.. Yes. I see :) I don't have a profile there, which is why I can't speak in it :)
Don't go starring everything if you want to know the threshold though
We could probably keep that room for the Happy New Year hat too
It can even be both number of stars and within a duration as in: 3 stars in 30 minutes.
1:22 PM
@Panda Yeah just chat every day to keep the room alive!
Also.. allow for the hat-script to run. I believe it can take some time
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@Scratte Hopefully, it's run every hour and not just once a day ^^
@Ael Lol yeah
@Ael Yeah, but can users testing this wait an entire hour?!?.. :D
The test isn't very structured. It could also be "post messages that gets starred by 4 different users".
1:27 PM
Now i got it too
^ they got 9 stars in less than a minute :D
Hmm I got it, seems like 2 is enough too.
That's not even a test ;) That just confirms that it's chat and star related.
I think 1 star probably does it.
@Panda Nope.. absolutely not. I checked this already on stackoverflow. 2 also doesn't do it.
1:29 PM
@Scratte I got the hat though: 2 messages, 1 with 3 stars and 1 with 2 stars
And you didn't just get 3 stars in that uncontrolled experiment. You got 5 in total in less than 2 minutes.
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@Panda Yep, one isn't enough or Tinkeringbell should have it on IPS
So.. we're still no closer to finding the exact trigger for this hat.
Oh, someone else could try.
We just know that overly casting starts on multiple messages will set it off :D
There are 3 different things to check: number of stars. number of messages and duration. Will one get a hat if only one message is starred with 3 stars in total, but over a long period like an hour?
1:33 PM
27 hats now!
That's nice :) Will you lose them all when the winter bash is over? :D
@Scratte yeah.... :-(
@U11-Forward I don't know why you bother, you can't wear them all at once :P
@Tinkeringbell haha yeah !
I know that 2 stars doesn't set it off, so perhaps someone (one) could give @Vickel one more star in the other room?
1:36 PM
@Scratte I already did :-)
Then you can't do it again.. :)
@Scratte haha lol!
@Scratte thanks for your help
@Vickel I'm not trying to earn you a hat. I'm trying to work out the exact trigger :)
:)
only 2 stars so far...
1:39 PM
Another test would be for someone to post 3 separate messages and have each one starred only once but in quick succession.
It will come !
@Scratte done
Super :) Thanks :)
cruise of oil?
Just upvote something or answer or ask something, you will get it
1:41 PM
@U11-Forward ah, ok, then mariachi is late
It seems downvoting doesn't get one a lot of hats.
@Vickel Yeah Mariachi was late for me as well!
@Vickel I had one hat come in yesterday 15 minutes after the fact.
Think of it as "Playing ping-pong. Code is compiling."
@Scratte hopefully without a stackoverflow
If we get an underflow.. you'll have to ask for one more star :D
But I'd still wait for the 15 minutes to find the exact trigger.
I made my own other test on chat.stackoverflow :) It's 3 stars and no timelimit on the stars. Yours is coming.
I tested it on this message where the user did not have the hat. Then I put my 3rd star on it some 20 minutes ago, and now the user has the hat :)
1:49 PM
@U11-Forward will it work in this chatroom as well?
@CinCout No cuz this has no parent site... :-)
@U11-Forward ah ok
@U11-Forward danke
I see I've completely ruined the secrecy of the hat..
There's a user in the WB Starring Room that gives me a 404 when I try to see their profile.
Is that normal?
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1:53 PM
@Scratte That's why people come to this room, to be spoiled and learn how to get a specific hat ^^
@Scratte why isn't the meta post updated if the trigger is confirmed?
@Scratte merged user
@YaakovEllis just for reference, wanting to see if I got your idea right... the fact that Mariachi is three stars.... is supposed to be a reference to THIS song?
left the chat account unparented
@CinCout We only worked it out about 5 minutes ago
1:55 PM
@Scratte ah ok
well it works ;)
Yes :) One puzzle solved. I've been asked by multiple users how I got it, which was pretty early on, so I felt I had to work it out :)
My first suspicion was posting a comment on a closed post. I suppose there are comments on all closed posts on Stack due to users thinking that was the trigger.. Ohh the horror moderators will have to face of having to clean that mess up :D So.. I'm really really sorry about that! :)
Give a Leg Up: related to accepting someone else's answer, one or more not sure about that
@CinCout Really?
@U11-Forward seems like
Who has Give a Leg up here?
Bye I am off, see ya next time!
2:11 PM
@U11-Forward someone got it on Literature, and he has accepted 3 of my answers today so far
@Derpy you are considering me with the graphic designer XD
@YaakovEllis don't really know who came up with the trigger, but that is the first thing that came to mind. Uno Dos Tres.....
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@CinCout I just accepted an answer, we'll see how it goes
2:26 PM
@Ael good luck :)
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Thanks :)
@Derpy Pinning doesn't do it.. (not sure if I'm addressing this to the right user)
I tested this already on Stack chat.
@Scratte thanks for the confirmation
@Derpy This year, with Nicolas at the lead, you may notice that a lot of the hats come from the cultures of our international SO sites - (Russian, Japanese, Spanish/Mexican, and Portuguese/Brazilian)... we actually asked the mods on those sites for ideas that would represent their cultures - Mariachi was one of those. I'm not sure why the number three was chosen but I doubt it was because of that song.
Maybe just a threshold to make it not trivial to get.
2:30 PM
Pretty much. In this case, probably don't really need to overthink it. ;)
It's 3 wise men, no? And 3 wishes from the genie..
I think there should be a secret hat for figuring out a secret hat.. ;)
I have never wished more for the ability to use tables in SE answers. :( — Catija ♦ Dec 15 '15 at 4:06
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@CinCout If the trigger have to do with accepting answers, you need to do more than one. This user accepted an answer of mine yesterday but they didn't got the hat
Got to love it when your hopes and dreams from five years ago finally are realized. ... that said, I'm not going to convert that answer into a table.
@Ael possible. i have three accepted answers from a single user, and he has the hat
2:35 PM
@Scratte NOPE. NO. NOT AGAIN. NEVER. Caused already a lot of rants in the past, no need for that again
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@CinCout Well, I'm gonna go accept two other answers, see of that do it ^^
@Ael i will have to post three questions first :D
@Scratte Isn't there a hat for getting a certain amount of secret hats? ;)
@Scratte they HAD that in the past, and it caused many fights. No thanks
@Derpy Really? Users got hats awarded manually for figuring out secret hats?
2:37 PM
Eureka!
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@CinCout I have a lot of old questions with no accepted answer, so I can "easily" accept three of them. But if it doesn't work and someone wants to try it we questions asked during WB, be my guest ^^
@Tinkeringbell Yes. I got that. No idea what caused some of the other secret hats though.
Yeah, manually awarded hats are no bueno.
BTW, Vexillologist also works on flagging a comment, provided the flag is accepted
I guess the Charcoal peeps are getting tons of Vex flags.
2:38 PM
@Derpy But seriously.. if that had been an option, I'd have figured it out on my own and posted the spoiler on meta without any help.
@Scratte yes, see here under "Eureka!".
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So, I just accepted 4 answers (included one of mine), we will see if I get any badge (though none of the questions or answers were posted during WB)
@Shadow10YearsWizard I see. Thanks for the link :)
@Scratte I didn't say you wouldn't. I said that that not-so-good idea caused users fighting over who found the hat first and that wasn't nice at all. No need to repeat the error, it was removed for a reason.
@Derpy can be fixed by just giving the hat to everyone who guessed correctly, not only the first.
(to a limit of course, which is when it's obvious someone already copy what others said before)
2:51 PM
@Ael keep us posted
@Shadow10YearsWizard they tried. And failed. And tire fires.
no thanks.
hey any english native in here?
@Derpy I'm too new to know those things, but.. yes I can see how that can turn sour when users don't want to share. I also says it here as a joke.
im looking for a word and im so in a rush so may I ask it in here?
@parvin Any English word or one in particular? Is it hat or winter related? :)
2:54 PM
oh no it's not realated to here that's why I'm asking if it's okay to ask
I'm looking for a word to express a particular interest so I can add it to my C.V
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@CinCout Nothing so far and it's probably been 20 minutes already. I'm honestly not very optimistic about it. But maybe it just needs to be done with "fresh" questions and answers
@Ael that's a possibility too.
@Derpy oh, forgot about it, probably. Oh well.
@parvin how did you stumble on this room, of all Stack Exchange rooms? lol
@Shadow10YearsWizard cuz people are online in here!!
hehe, good point.
2:58 PM
the user who has the hat has posted a lot of questions today, accepted a few answers, and added comments to either his questions or to answers on his questions. Nothing else at all.
And given the name of the hat, it sounds as if the action should help the other person as well, in this case whose answers are being accepted
okay I guess I can ask lol
I'm looking for a word indicating interest in Carpentry and making mechanical toys
I'm gonna add it to my C.V
It's like barging into a concert full with thousands of people and asking for something. ;)
@Shadow10YearsWizard but its almost Christmas, and we don't mind ;)
@CinCout sure, and @parvin got a free ticket anyway. :D
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