@GratefulDisciple With regard to what you say about 're-defending the boundary' that is why I responded on Meta Christianity to D J Clayworth's question by suggesting reference to the Creeds of the early Chruch when these matters were established - the Council of Nicaea and the Apostle's Creed, Athanasian Creed etc. The boundary ahs already been defined - very early on. We just need to reference that boundary.

@NigelJ For Trinitarians of course the creeds is the boundary solution. You and I are satisfied just by accepting the creeds. But I feel more and more people are not convinced simply by being pointed out at the creeds. That's what I meant by "re-defend the boundary". Trinitarians have to make extra effort to spell out the process that the church fathers went through to come up with the creeds by showing how modern age versions of the ancient heresies are not true Christianity.

@fredsbend love coming right back at you, Fred. Glad to see you de lurk. :-)

@GratefulDisciple without roughly 1800 years of keeping Christianity alive and growing, all bickering and schism considered, there would be nothing for "the chruch of what's happening now" to base themselves on. :-p (The church of what's happenin' now is a term of art that my father used to use, and he's agnostic)

he was batized eastern orthodox and ended up going to a Methodist church as he was growing up ... his sister, my aunt, is still a Methodist.

@KorvinStarmast Yes, collectively Christians need to make the faith relevant, comprehensible, and accountable to the world, so all these challenges have a good side to it. I just wish the core and the common ground (like Trinity) is more established so the community can instead focus the energy on attacking collective enemy rather than inside bickering, as in "divided we fall, united we stand".

@KorvinStarmast @curiousdannii @PeterTurner I just filled out the annual stackoverflow survey. Has there been a census on C.SE? It would be interesting to see some similar statistics. Instead of programming language we ask denomination. Instead of programming framework we ask Bible study tools, etc.

What does this mean:

told man that of every tree of the garden he could freely eat except that when he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, that he would surely die.

what does it mean by surely die?

@GratefulDisciple We had a Census chatroom for a while, I could unfreeze it

@GratefulDisciple I prefer cult!

@GratefulDisciple Someone could definitely make a survey

Anyone help me out with this? christianity.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/66478 Initial edit reason is simply as stated. Then reviewed to make sure I wasn't missing anything else, and hence the second edit hunk for "transgenderism" glaad.org/reference/transgender .

I'm assuming the second avoidance edit is the difficulty. It took me a while to think of that small edit. No aspersions on the questioner using it, just a gentle example that there's other ways to express it, since the term is very commonly (ab)used, both to reduce it to a medical issue, or (AIUI) to refer to simply existing as openly trans as being activism.

@curiousdannii I'll be happy to beta test it, maybe using survey monkey? Like the stackoverflow survey, can be multi-purpose: how they use C.SE, what they want to learn from C.SE, other forums visited, demographics, theological background, faith level (from strong denier to shopping-around to ardent supporter), etc.

TL;DR: 10 seconds with google will tell you "hermaphrodite" is not a good word for humans. I've generally had positive feedback from pointing out when language is outdated, and simply means something other than what is intended. Any suggestion how to get accurate language into the answer?

@PeterTurner The room is great for informal sharing of personal background (if unfrozen, I'll chip in), but a survey is a lot more structured and possibly more useful long term, with periodic accumulated results posted in a Google doc share somewhere.

@sourcejedi If you think "hermaphrodite" is offensive, just flag it as so. I think it's not the best term, but I wouldn't think it needs to be purged. You can comment on the answer to ask the author to change it.