@Mokubai @DavidPostill @JourneymanGeek Can someone please escalate the request to blacklist the google tag to the CMs? It was recreated again this past week and constantly keeps getting recreated on a regular basis. (See this MSE answer for what I mean.)

@gparyani blacklisting hardly works

That's to say its pretty difficult to actuallt get done

hence us just deleting the tags as needed.

Yeah, but 1. the request has decent support from the community and 2. that same tag keeps getting recreated. The last two times it was recreated, it was on questions that were later migrated which means that a mod is required to remove them.

Practically - its insanely difficult to actually get done.

@JourneymanGeek Just out of curiosity, has the mod team actually tried to escalate that request to the CMs, and it still went unhandled?

@gparyani none of your business.

Monica's MSE answer says it results in action.

Maybe with more CMs, but I'm basically telling you "We just manually nuke the tag" in 20 different ways

What's wrong with the comment on that question suggesting we synonymise it with google-chrome?

> For an issue raised on a per-site meta, particularly for a bug report or site-specific feature, if you're not getting any response from SE and the meta request has decent support from the community, then you can ask a local moderator to escalate […] As a moderator, I've been able to get site-specific things like these addressed by escalating a per-site meta request to the CMs.

@Mokubai I think I'll leave this to you ;p

I'm running on not enough sleep, and I'm probably going to be snippier than I should be

@Mokubai Is Chrome the only desktop software made today by Google? (I don't know, is it?)

IIRC there were SketchUp and Picasa, but neither is made by Google today (the former was sold)

Blacklist are a very big hammer and are used incredibly sparingly. While I don't like the tag I don't see how we can deal with it in a proportionate manner beyond synonyms.

@JourneymanGeek no worries, I know the feeling all too well. Never enough hours in the day, too much to do...

I believe it's time to bring out the hammer. That tag is recreated an average of once or twice a year, for the last few years.

And the last two times it was recreated, it was in use on questions that were migrated to other sites, which meant a moderator was needed to remove the tag.

So you linked to Monica's answer and now you need to justify why it is an actual problem. A single question once or twice a year isn't really that much of a deal. Monica suggests posting an answer with SEDE data saying how often it is used, how much of a problem it really is and so on.

At the moment I can't see it being anything more than something that needs a custom flag of "can someone nuke the google tag" with a link to the meta question...

@Mokubai Are historical tag statistics available in SEDE?

Don't know.

Presumably revision data is in there somehow, so should be achievable.

You want this, so it's up to you to do the work. That it appears at all suggests that we are not training new users what tags are for.

And indeed, I asked around and it's not really possible to tell in SEDE when a tag is burned and recreated. At best you can see individual post histories to see when the tag was added, but without knowing when the tag was burninated you can't know anything.

@Mokubai See: google-*. There are tons of uses beyond just Google Chrome.

So you don't really care if/when it is burned or recreated. Just when it is used. Assume it is always there or always nuked and go from that. If nothing else give us a list of dates it was used on. Focus on the data you can get.

Let's say it wastes 15 minutes noticing and trying to remove it, and it costs someone a couple of hours hunting down the blacklist documentation and means that they have to schedule a server restart and cache purge that means the site is slow for a while, therefore wasting everyones time. Is that cost really worth it? That is what I want you to tell us.