@lsiunsuex $150 ?

in one app?

@BMitch I was trying to draw the topic back to home improvement. :) I'm still enjoying the "worst tile jobs ever" thread ... and some of my friends who decided to pay for a cheap roofer.

drywall and electrical this weekend or bust! fix / rewire 3 outlets in the family room and finish plastering the spare bedroom / wire lights / prime and paint this weekend.

@Aaron tiny tower is addicting ! :)

maybe - re: i suck at plastering corners so we'll see if i dont through a 8 inch plaster knife at someone, ninja style

Man, I thought I was being generous with myself when I bought a $25 itunes gift card when I got my iphone 3GS 3 years ago - I still have $14 left on it

@lsiunsuex I d/l'd pocket plane too, but I'd never in-app-purchase anything for it

@Aaron dont get me wrong - i dont do it often - but enough to be ashamed of it haha

@lsiunsuex You're only using a 8 inch knife? I generally use a three inch knife to bed tape, a six inch knife for the next coat, and a 12 or 14 inch knife to finish.

@KarlKatzke no no no - i'm just gonna through the 8 inch - i use a 4, then 6, then 8

i could throw all 3 at someone i guess

better chances of hitting something

A $25 gift card for me would last, oh, about 2 months. Maybe less. Depends on how much music I have on my wish-list. I budget for one album a month.

I spray painted a scrap piece of wood with Rust-Oleum Chalkboard Spray. Waiting for it to dry, so I can try it out.

@lsiunsuex The 6 inch and 8 inch are generally sharper ... but seriously, try a 12 inch or larger.

@KarlKatzke That's what she said.

i think my red u shaped thing that holds the mud can only take up to a 10 inch knife

rimshot

money is tight right now - no new knifes

Ah, yeah, my tray holds a 14 inch one, and I use the metal pans because I ended up with bits of red plastic in my mud.

Actually I switched to a hawk.

I mix 30 or 60 minute powder if I'm using it in a metal pan and plop it on the hawk.

Yeah, that thingy.

hey everyone :)

Hi @Aarthi!

Hi @Aarthi

@Tester101 think dad has one of those - maybe i should try that

@KarlKatzke Long time no see! How's life?

@lsiunsuex Makes it much easier to use all the mud and to clean the edge of your knives.

@lsiunsuex They work great. Especially useful when doing ceilings, since you can use it to catch drips.

"Money can't buy knives" - Rob Schneider

@Aarthi Getting better! Just starting to get over my annual fall cold, and I bought a pickup truck a couple weeks ago, so I can finish my two currently running projects!

dripping is definitely a pain in the ass :( then i step in it and drag it into the hallway - fml

Pfft... you guys have it all wrong....

Ohh, @Aarthi visits!

@Aarthi TRUCK:

Here is how you do drywall... take a truck behind your local home depot, then yell "TRABAJO!", drive back to your house... give them a couple hundred dollars... VOila! You have finished drywall!

@maple_shaft I thought you didn't like to pay for things?

@KarlKatzke I don't like to pay for software

'Cuz you spent all your money on drywall finishing? ;)

Fact: Mexicans are born with the ability to drywall better than a white man with years of experience

@maple_shaft At the end of the job, just yell "Immigration!" and you don't have to pay

@maple_shaft so your house was built / worked on by hard working imigrants who got paid shit by their employer ? hmm

@BMitch It's "La migra!"

@KarlKatzke I got my annual cold last weekend, too. IT WAS THE WORST!

@KarlKatzke SHINY!

@KarlKatzke Thanks, this is why I need to learn spanish.

@Tester101 Hi Tester! :D How you been?

@BMitch An extended visit, this time!

@BMitch :(

@Aarthi $4800, another $1000 in tires... and it's actually kinda beat to heck, but looks good from a distance. :)

@Aarthi Great. and you?

@Aarthi Also, 7.3L Turbo Diesel.

@lsiunsuex Mexicans drywalled my house... and Amish framed it

Dually.

@Aarthi It's a bit like a mother seeing how the kids are growing up :)

@BMitch hahaha sure we can go with that metaphor. :P How's the diamond fitting these days?

White guys did the electrical and plumbing

@Tester101 Pretty all right. Gots some projects to handle. Things to do, you know. The yooge.

@Aarthi lol, no diamonds in my near future, I'm back to the single life

@BMitch match.com

meet the wife there

@BMitch i, uh, i meant the mod diamond

@Aarthi oh, um, yeah, that's going fine

awkward silence

ha, it's okay -- an understandable mistake.

PORN!

Er, no.

(trying to break the silence)

Hello all.

... And then @ChrisF shows up

Heya @ChrisF

@ChrisF Sorry, dude, you just walked right into an awkward silence. :)

Sounds just like me in real life ;)

@lsiunsuex I'm going for the nerdy ones on okcupid, but I'll probably give match a try eventually.

@BMitch Whatever you do don't go on Christian mingle

@BMitch wasn't a bad experience - went on 3 or 4 dates before i meet her - at the time she lived on the other side of the city - would never have met her IRL

noted

my brother tried that for a while, those girls have the highest standards I have ever seen, or they have crazy insane controlling fathers that will try to kill you

christian mingle might not be a bad idea - you could meet a hot 21 year old virgin jesus freak

craigslist

@lsiunsuex there's just one downside, she's a virgin jesus freak, and still will be after you break up.

@lsiunsuex If they are on the site for longer than a few months then their standards are too high

just ignore those profiles

ashleymadison.com go find yourself a cougar

SFW?

For the record, I'm blaming @Aarthi for getting us off topic :)

yes, safe for work

Oh dear.

back on topic:

ROFLMAO!

wut?!

@Tester101 is that up to code?

@Aarthi What are you doing in my shower?

@Aarthi you promised not to show anyone that pic!

This is awesome though:

@Aarthi allofmywant.jpg

This tumblr is ugly but informative! omgtsn.tumblr.com/post/33700724404

@Aarthi it's like snugglevision

hahaha

wow that was awesome segue

in other news, concrete bathroom floors still suck

yes.

mexican drywall in my house

new house

Mucho gusto!

@Aaron nice to meet you?

@Aaron Nice to meet you too.

I am a little bothered that they used 1/2" instead of 3/4"

They make 3/4 drywall commonly? I thought 5/8" was the most you could get.

they also decided to use nails around the outside edges of the boards instead of screws

err...

right 5/8"

sorry

@maple_shaft They use nails to hang it initially, and then screw it. You won't get nail pops since they nailed then screwed.

@KarlKatzke Ahh...

well...

also

1/2" is standard, 5/8" is only req'd for commercial and is harder to install

I assumed that building codes required greenboard in bathrooms

but they just used regular

@maple_shaft what code requires and what gets done are not always the same thing

That depends on your area. It's a city by city thing.

@KarlKatzke sure you can

My city doesn't require mold-resistant drywall in bathrooms; next city over does.

nail expands and contracts - doesn't care about screws

you just wont get as many

I would have liked mold resistant and would have paid extra for it, but it slipped my mind

Code is only followed when a permit is required.

permit was required and acquired

must not be code

where I live

@Tester101 Code is only followed... what he said

Ok.... let me rephrase that. I won't get nail pops because I finished my drwalll properly and there's only nails along the edge, and if they pop they'll have to take mesh tape and 1/8" of compound with it.

so using dorito's to start my next pizza oven fire - solid idea

They are putting fireboard on the ceiling of the basement however

@lsiunsuex Have you smelled burning doritos?!

I think thats what they are doing... idk their english is terrible

@KarlKatzke no?

@KarlKatzke lol

@maple_shaft amazon.com/Jobsite-Phrasebook-English-Spanish-Kent-Shepard/dp/…

Code is also only followed by reputable contractors.

@KarlKatzke OMG THAT BOOK!

@lsiunsuex Go light one up. I'll wait.

ok, but the smell would disipate in the hour and a half it takes to warm the oven, no ?

Doritos == twinkies as far as decomposition goes

have you seen my pizza oven blog post? mofo gets over 800 degrees now

I prefer a looftlighter personally. No debris.

@KarlKatzke that is much funnier out of context.

Or a piece of kindling and a hair dryer, even.

outie - night.

That's how I light my big green egg -- looflighter to light the charcoal, hair dryer through the bottom vent to get the fire roaring and then I wait for it to cool down a bit.

@maple_shaft There's other books ... and I think a few smartphone apps that do the same thing and actually will say the words for you ... that was just the first one that looked OK in an amazon search. There was a whole article on being fluent in spanish in this month's Journal of Light Construction.

@KarlKatzke And you guys wonder why I think innovation is dead.... because books like that are true innovation, and already have existed for a while

I think I was meant to be a luddite

I am in the wrong profession

's Ok. We need all types. People call me a luddite because I don't ever watch TV, have no social skills, and miss out on nearly all pop culture references ...

I'm not a luddite, I'm post-mass-media.

so hipster

I just hate the Internet and computers in general and feel that they have made our world so productive to the point where the common man no longer need to participate in the greater economy due to the absurd efficiency gains of the last 50 years

I was hipster before it was cool.

destruction of the middle class by being too good

like a virus that is killing its host by being TOO good

too efficient

half of people in the modern world could just stop working and things wouldn't miss a beat

there are a lot of people who work a job that is not necessary or provides little to no value

my butt is huge that is so funny

@maple_shaft We have so many people to employ, it's inevitable some of them will be doing busy work.

@maple_shaft Oh, the middle class has been destroyed repeatedly in history. It's one of the signs of the decline of a culture. Offhand, I can remember it happening in Venice in the 1200's and Holland in the 1400's, but the history books will have more to say. I think you're wrong about innovation, though. There will always be innovation, and there will always be ways to do things cheaper than the innovative ways, but people who persist with the innovative ways anyway.

> I can remember it happening in Venice in the 1200's and Holland in the 1400's

O_O

Are you a vampire?

No, I read books. :-P

Rome... destruction of the middle class ... over extension of miltary ... borrow shit loads of money from foreign countries with no intention of ever paying it back... culture devolve into a vile mess... sound familiar?

Yeah, same thing. Happens over and over again.

Speaking of books, I should have a copy of the 2010 National Tile Contractor's Association handbook in my mailbox when I get home. I'm kinda giddy about that.

oooh

sounds like a good place to ask quesitons from :D

well my job is done here

don't everybody thank me at once

My subpar DIY advice will have to come at another time

later

@maple_shaft Thank you.

is it still PUT?

i've done a lot of plumbing this week

yup, we kinda died

some of it even voluntarily

plumb away

so I got the upstairs bathroom disconnected from the water

in the process I broke not one but TWO older cpvc lines to the 1st floor bathtub

that stuff gets BRITTLE after a while

so i pulled down a layer of drywall in the ktichen to get to the tub - to find another layer of drywall behind it... with an access panel

the nimrods covered the access panel with a drywall layer and beadboard

headdesk

i think i just need someone to torch my house so i can rebuild it from the ground up on MetLife's dime

@TheEvilGreebo That's what children are for.

no kids

you can always rent a kid for a day

@TheEvilGreebo there are moments when I remember my house is insured for twice what I owe...

anyway the big demo starts tomorrow

and my wife is on meds that make her sleep 20 hrs a day

actually i'll be taking some stuff out tonight

gotta get a head start since now its down to just me for a good bit of it :(

@TheEvilGreebo do you do this every time you start a project?

do what?

drug the wife?

lol

@TheEvilGreebo yes <_< >_> -_-

I can neither confirm nor deny

@Aarthi I want to test all of these. (actually I want pintester to test all of these so i don't have to)

haha

do iiiit

Thanks for joining this weeks PUT

awww.

Well hey, it was great seeing the old crew again! :)

Ciao, everyone!

l8r @Aarthi, thanks for all the awkward silences! :)