I'd get it aluminum clad anyways.

I've stained PT for a fence right away and never had any issues, the framing was all inside the walls and protected from the weather

It looks better.

I agree aluminum over the PT would be a much better look because you don't want any funny pink foam showing on the edges

never worked with aluminum glad - whats involved?

Call someone. An eavestrough guy will do it.

You need a brake, which is a pretty pricy tool.

It's not that expensive.

@ChrisCudmore That's a much better name than "gutter".

hmm im trying not to make this less DIY...

@Steven If you take them the metal and your measurements, they might be able to bend it for you (just don't forget to also bring a box of donuts).

@ChrisCudmore You can rent them fairly cheaply

So this is project update Thursday, huh? Here's my project update: While replacing a bathroom faucet, I moved one of the copper pipes out from behind the drain pipe with a couple of 45° bends. It was my first time soldering copper pipe. I was genuinely surprised that it didn't leak when I turned the water back on.

Pretty ugly, eh?

Now that I look at it again, it is kinda crooked. :)

it doesn't look that bad - actually way better then the job the gas companies guys did at my place installing a new water heater

@JeremyStein Copper's not bad. It's the fittings that always trip me up. I can't seem to solder brass worth a darn.

Thank God for professionals who do crummy work. Makes me feel so much better about myself.

@JeremyStein did you use propane or MAPP?

Fixing a solder leak can be a pain in the butt if you can't get the water back out of the line. Always a good idea to do it right the first time. :)

Propane. Didn't want to spring for the expensive stuff because I didn't know how often I'd do it.

Actually, the guy at the store sold me a propane torch with a bottle of MAPP. Took me 2 trips back to get the right combo.

solder joints look fine to me

maybe a little much solder but I end up using that much too

better than too little and pinhole leaks!

Out of view are the scorch marks against the wall from the plumber who put this in the first time. That scared me into being extra careful.

@JeremyStein Fire cloth is a good investment

you need to get a piece of sheet metal or flame retardant material

I've got fire cloth - its still in its packaging

and a fire extinguisher handy! (seriously, people burn houses down doing this)

;)

The pipe was so close to the wall that a cookie sheet wouldn't fit, so I used aluminum foil, which seemed a bit flimsy. I hadn't heard of fire cloth. Sounds great.

i keep a quart of water and a wet towel handy

I've got some framing that's crispy from a prior owners shoddy plumbing job

Great tips, guys. There must be some more plumbing jobs around my house somewhere to try out the suggestions...

@BMitch i have a crispy frame that's my own fault

copper was 1/2" from underside of joist and had water in it

tried too long to get a good join and scorched the joist but never melted the solder

one nice thing about MAPP is that it tends to boil small amounts of water off quickly enough that you can still solder

this wasn't a small amount - water kept trickling in from points in the line that were ... hills and valleys

i tried for an hour to clear it - and would get more water

gave up, yanked it, put in pex

i even tried to blow air thru the line w/ the shop vac

i'm sure it would have looked very comical to an onlooker

I once used white bread to stop a trickle

but there was a laundry faucet at the other end w/o an aerator so it just got pushed out

white bread FTW!

i thought about it

but we only had potato bread and I like it too much

there is a company that makes these plungers that can block pipes and take the heat of a torch - forget what they are called

@Steven question - you put a plunger in - you solder the pipe - now the pipe is closed up - how do you get it out?

it only works in some scenarios -like a union and you just need to keep the water back

Hobby project?

there are also freezing kits you can use

that freeze the pipe temporarily (Far enough down the line that you don't melt it instantly)

then solder and wait for it to defrost

@BMitch per our discussion last week (or week before?) .. close because it's not a real question. it's a "design this for me" question.

@gregmac tru

added close vote

@Tester101 If I was just buying one it's $38.63... but this same dealer has an online offering for less than the "special price' he's offering me.

@Steven Has anyone tried one of those aerosol fire extinguishers? Seems convenient.

I think the regular ones look a little intimidating, but everyone knows how to spray from a can.

Something like this: amzn.com/dp/B001229JCU

I've considered myself lucky to never have tried any fire extinguisher.

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