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Journeyman Geek

00:49

@Criggie 0_0

And presumably to your doorstep.

I am curious how bigger stuff gets shipped tho

Criggie

Surface freight always - small packets often get tipped into an airplane that is lightly loaded. I have had AE packages within 4 days sometimes and no ship is that fast.
Other packages take months, so they're definitely travelling surface.

Its just that scaffold is amazingly expensive for what it really is. I could buy steel and a welder, do an introductory course, and weld my own for about what it costs to buy one unit new, retail.

Journeyman Geek

@Criggie I suspect half the cost is knowing it won't collapse on you

Also until recentish, they'd just lash poles together here and it worked fine :D

also depending on the height, you could throw something together with pipe and suitable connectors

Or abuse of slotted angles

Criggie

01:19

yeah - I looked at that kind of thing too. just seemed a bit risky. I've taken a high dive off a failing ladder before, that was unpleasant.
I remember my dad knocking up a work surface from old wooden pallets while making a block garage. but I want to get at least 2 metres of height and wood is snottingly expensive now.

Almost cheaper to get a 2 metre high mound of rocks or dirt and stand on that.

A lot of new houses here are being framed with steel, because its cheaper than wood.

Journeyman Geek

@Criggie Pallets are free if you know where to go.

Criggie

oh yeah - but I don't want to nail up a 2 metre high platform of pallets.

My hedge is ~20 metres long and has two sides

to get to the far side is a 800 metre walk

Journeyman Geek

Criggie

I am NOT lugging a wooden siege tower that far :)))

Journeyman Geek

Not with that attitude you are not

Criggie

01:25

though... a siege tower with hides and arrow slits would be AWESOME for the grandkids to play in

Journeyman Geek

lol

Criggie

"WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, CUT THE HEDGE !"

Journeyman Geek

lol

More of "here's some swords. OFF WITH THEIR HEAD!"

Criggie

google.com/maps/@-43.607987,172.3573439,3a,75y,52.26h,84.65t/…

that was after it was trimmed last time, on the back side.

Journeyman Geek

that is quite a hedge

Criggie

01:28

Doens't look that big, but the fence on the power substation is 2 metres tall, so in 2019 it was ~4.5 metres. Now its around 7 metres tall

Journeyman Geek

though, wouldn't moving an (unwheeled?) platform, even a steel one be a bit of work?

Criggie

I have a pole pruner but even standing on the roof of my landy I can't reach the top

Its about 3 metres thick as well so the top has a width.

Journeyman Geek

(unrelatedly, actually having a bit or lot of earth around is so nice ._.)

I wonder... :D

Criggie

I don't have to do the hwhole hedge - there's about 14 houses that share it.

Journeyman Geek

ahhh

Criggie

01:34

As for piles of dirt - yeah our land is really rocky. Anyone with a garden bed has them elevated out of the ground, and there's only ~50mm of top soil.

I had to use the hose to hydro-dig when concreting in a washing line.

Journeyman Geek

Oh more of everyone here lives in apartments

And the only place I can grow my own stuff is on a air con ledge outside my toilet :D

Criggie

apartments aren't a thing here - only some few right in the middle of town,

Journeyman Geek

Well when I get my place. The first batch of residents are SUPPOSED to be moving in... any time now but we're still waiting on word

Criggie

Of course - its always hurry up and wait.

(sorry - new keyboard and I don't like it)

Journeyman Geek

@Criggie oh, there's been multiple delays thanks to the 'rona

Criggie

01:45

yeah but buiildings seem to be endemic with delays no matter what.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, ours are mass produced in a sense so... they actually used to be very good at it

Criggie

Ours are relatively individual

My whole street was builkt at the same time by the same building company

Journeyman Geek

there's literally a standard layout or 3 for each size of apartment :D

Criggie

but each house is separate and not identical.

Journeyman Geek

And these days they literally stack pre-fabricated blocks atop each other

Criggie

01:48

However every house has the same taps, sink, shower,, bath etc.

yeah that sucks - I kinda miss living in my 1929 house.

Journeyman Geek

If you do facebook...

facebook.com/reel/1289194021730232

Criggie

I do not. Wortks in Incognito mode though :))

Journeyman Geek

Except for the handrails (we're a bit confused about those, since its meant for the slightly more furnished version of these specific style of units for older people), my apartment would look like this assets.hdb.gov.sg/community/plantation_grange/virtual_tour/4502/…

Criggie

wow that would not fly here - no building may be over 4 stories tall. Quakes put paid to anything new that big.

Journeyman Geek

If you look at the next size up assets.hdb.gov.sg/community/plantation_grange/virtual_tour/3318/… they get tiled floors, but broadly everything is about the same

also man, their living rooms look smaller than ours

Criggie

01:52

yeah - the idea of only owning part of your buildiung is not well received here. People want their own plot with a house on it.

Journeyman Geek

@Criggie I think we're restricted to 12-15 floors cause of the airbase

current place is older but 25 floors

I THINK the tallest normal public housing is... 30 and the tallest (which is kinda non standard) is 50

@Criggie We don't have the land lol

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