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02:09
Looks like I'll miss tomorrow's PUT while I drive down the NJ turnpike. I'll be sure to wave in @Aarthi's direction on my way out of town. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
 
10 hours later…
11:47
@Aaron Was reading about your washer shutoff questions from before. My two cents... Put a shut off on hot and cold where they enter the space, this allows you to shut off both washer and sink. Then install shutoffs near the end of the lines to the washer, this will allow you to shut off the washer but still let you use the sink.
That way if you ever move (and take the washer) or disconnect the washer for any reason, you'll still be able to use the sink.
 
5 hours later…
16:31
So you think it's worth having 2 sets of shutoff valves for this installation?
16:42
@Aaron Well It's defiantly good to have shutoffs right near the end of laundry hookups, and shutoffs for the sink might come in handy if you ever have to change the faucet. So I'd do 2 sets. If you only want 1 set, I'd put it at the end of the washer feed. It's more likely you'll want to shut off water to just the washer than just the sink.
If you're using SharkBite valves; they run ~$10-$15 a valve, I understand why you'd want to use fewer.
Convenience sometimes overshadows cost though.
You could always add valves where the supply enters the space now, then add valves at the washer later.
Part cost is fairly immaterial for me
Must be nice.
it's the soldering and "quality" work that is more of a concern, and the more times I have to do it
well - fairly, not completely
The more you do it, the better you'll get. Think of it as practice.
In aviation (I fly recreationally) to deal with the monetary cost, people just talk of spending AMUS = Aviation Monetary Units = $1000, so anything under that 'doesn't count'. A HMU is similar, but $100 might be a better guideline
16:51
Grab a scrap piece of pipe, and an extra fitting. Clamp the pipe in a vise, and solder on the fitting. When you're done, heat the fitting back up, remove it, clean the pipe and fitting, and repeat.
You'll be a pro in no time.
For some real practice. Place some scrap wood near the pipe, then try to solder the joint without burning the wood.
 
2 hours later…
18:50
In non DIY news the hall floor is finished:
We definitely made the right decision on this one. It looks superb.
Looks good. Nice design work there.
Just got to fit new skirting boards - which we will be doing ourselves and after 10 years the hall will be finished!
@ChrisCudmore It's a standard pattern from these people - originalstyle.com/tile_victorian.htm
We chose the colours though :)
What's the rat's nest by the front door?
@ChrisCudmore On the left? That's the electrics - consumer unit and meter. There's some custom boxing that fits over it but the tiles needed to be laid to the wall.
It's usually in the basement around here...
18:56
@ChrisCudmore Yeah - with the house pre-dating domestic electricity when they installed it the fuse box was put anywhere convenient. These days they're put in better places.
Ok. 3:00. I need a welcome message!
Welcome to Project Update Thursday
There it is!
So I came across some bloody archaic wiring at my brother's this weekend.
Hey! @TheEvilGreebo is gone!
Cloth and paper wrapped, and dipped in tar.
Cloth electrical tape splices in the junctions.
No ground, of course.
19:04
Did you find the knobs and tubes?
No, it was a 1947 house, so they at least weren't using that.
But the copper was brittle.
We replaced two circuits, and have 2 more to do at a later date. Fishing was the biggest problem.
@ChrisCudmore Always is.
The most annoying wiring I've seen is when the 12/2 comes in from the bottom of the j-box in which there is a switch, and then the 12/2 exits at the top to the fixture
I can never get any work done, cuz I'm always "gone Fishin".
Instead of doing a wire nut with 3 wires (in, out, receptacle for the hot), they do a wire nut for the in and the out, and then just remove a bit of wire to wrap it around the receptacle's hot side
19:06
@Aaron What's wrong with that?
(my first statement was incorrect, it's a receptacle, not a switch)
His baby is finally getting out of the hospital next week, and we wanted to get any drywall breaking done before he got home. (3-months premature, and his lungs don't need any dust)
Wouldn't work so good with a switch
And I'm building a deck and pergola next weekend. I'll probably do a photoblog for that one.
Or actually, it was a switch, but it had 12/2 exiting up to other receptacles, and 12/2 exiting to the right for the outlet controlled by this switch only
Anyways, it was anoying and stupid and I didn't have just wire spools, only 12/2 spool and I didn't feel like ripping lengths of it apart just to get a couple feet of black wire
19:14
@ChrisCudmore never really understood pergolas. I think they were invented by a guy who hated roofing.
We have grapes. We want them to grow up and over.
Squirrels will eat half the grape and spit the rest at you.
I've tried explaining that to the Domestic Sergeant Major. Apparently I still need to build it.
Squirrels have a 2 second memory, so they don't remember they don't like grapes until they bite one. "Mmm that looks good." "Eww this is gross." "Mmm that looks good."...
Remember the system development life cycle - Planning, Analysis, Design, Implementation and Support. I'm in charge of the last 3.
Which means I'll get a support call about annoying squirrels sometime in the future.
 
1 hour later…
20:21
Hey, you guys quit early? lololol
I had to go and eat :)
I'm still here, but nothing is happening.
First time in ages I get home early on a thursday and nothing fun going on
boo hoooo
ya Chris F, what time is it there?
@shirlockhomes 9:30 pm
guess you guys solved all the DIY questions earlier! lolololol
20:34
I posted a link to the pictures of our new hall floor - but it's not a DIY job :)
that's good, cause i'm tired. lol
I really got to take some pics of this rehab, interior done, not that weather is better, outside is next
I was doing what I could to insulate a single skin brick wall between the garage and dining room at my mothers - but couldn't finish it as the flat roof is leaking. Directly over where I need to put up plasterboard.
now, I mean
ARRRRGGGG
flat roofs suck
(you can edit your last message you know)
@shirlockhomes Tell me about it.
really????
my bad
20:37
Just hit the up arrow in the input window
You get 5 minutes (I think)
It's not obvious, so don't worry.
testingedit test
cool
cool
Ok I got it
thanks
you are the puter guru!
20:52
Shh! Don't tell everyone. I'll have to give support to everyone now :)
that is your lot. lol
i got a job today on a beautiful lake. Windows and siding, love working in that area
beachfront cottage
may have to bring my fishing pole. lolololol
How come when I get to work on site, it's some industrial estate in the middle of nowhere? People don't believe me when I say that my travel for work isn't glamorous.
i live in a great area in Maine by lots of lakes and vacation spots. gonna stay here summers starting next year, and live and work in Florida winters
may even live on my boat summers.
That sounds tempting. However, with two of the kids still at school it's not feasible for us to be that nomadic. Plus, there's not the equivalent of Florida here in the UK.
I thought everyone went to the spanish Med coast
21:16
My son is graduating from RIT in May. yahoo!!!!!! Electrical enginnering/Computer engineering. getting his Masters and BS at same time. Now we can Semi retire.
No more tuition bills...Yaaaaa
BTW Chris, my profile pic is me on the flybridge on the "Black Pearl". My summer retreat
Nice.
With the price of gas, that boat is not going very far. It is now officially a dock yacht. lololololoo
ges here just went over $4.00/gallon USD
my boat gets a wopping .7 mpg... sorta like 4 liters per Kilo
Don't look at the price of fuel here in the UK. £1.40 a litre
Most of that is duty and VAT (which is levied on the duty - so it's a tax on a tax)
ya, when I was stationed in Germany, it was like $3/gal when here in US it was $1. Different tax structure
Last time I was in Europe was 80's
Wife and I want to go to Greece in next couple of years. I got a lot of family ther
Well it will be a lot cheaper :) - or should that be :( ?
21:29
I really don't know how the collape there is gonna effect tourism and cost to visit
later all, see ya next week
22:01
Does this need to get closed?

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