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7:01 PM
@KarlKatzke I think so, let's start the party. (I'm looking for the old Budweiser squeaking commercial on youtube myself)
 
@AarthiDevanathan cough Is it time?
I've got a story about how stupid I am to share. :)
 
@AarthiDevanathan, @RebeccaChernoff, hmm, is it time for the squeaky wheel again? Or are they holding off the start of Update Thursday so they have time to get the blog up?
 
They're probably saying nasty things about squeaky wheels again.
 
SQUEAK!!!!!
:)
 
the natives are getting restless
 
sticks a bone in his nose and rattles his hammer
 
We have a blog???
 
How does one add to the blog?
 
I always miss the good stuff
 
Hmm. I can't log into the blog.
 
7:08 PM
Ok, I'm stealing @AarthiDevanathan's time. q:
blog is created peeps! (:
 
Ah, I see, we need to be granted rights to contribute. Cool
 
the blog is standard WordPress.
 
should it say "Sample page" in the top right?
 
you'll need an account, most probably start as contributors and get more privs as deemed necessary.
 
An account other than my DIY.SE account or my overall SE profile?
 
7:10 PM
@TheEvilGreebo dammit, I forget that with each damn blog. grrrr. will take care of it, there should be About and Archive.
 
the other blogs have a contribute link there too
 
@RebeccaChernoff You're only stealing her time if she starts the event (/me pokes @AarthiDevanathan with a stick)
 
@TheEvilGreebo right. Accounts are totally separate. I'd like to figure out how to tie them together, but that's somewhat of a difficult task.
 
ok - so shoudln't there be a register or log in link too?
 
you can use markdown on the blog, make sure you're on the html tab of the editor, not visual.
 
7:11 PM
@RebeccaChernoff It is a difficult task. Are you going to email me the admin login, or ...?
@RebeccaChernoff Nevermind, just got it
 
check your email...you should have one.
 
OK. We'll handle getting it all set up after the chat -- I'll make a post to meta.
@RebeccaChernoff Can you do the honors of starting off the chat event?
 
@KarlKatzke go for it...you can do it! q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff I thought there was something special you had to do so that it would start recording the chat as an event or something.
 
nope. bookmark is created later and anyone can do that.
 
7:14 PM
Ok, that's it, I declare Project Update Thursday open!
Who's up first?
 
I can go first.
Wanna know how I know I'm an idiot?
I spent months agonizing over a tile choice for my kitchen, and then in the end I somehow ordered the wrong stuff by one shade.
 
oops q:
 
doh
 
Ooh - is it a competition? I've been debating if I want my first blog post to be "How many mistakes can a DIYer make while doing a drywall patch"
 
(I starred this room, so feel free to ping me about blog questions. I'll keep an eye on meta too. 'Tis y'alls blog to run, but I'm here for support!)
 
7:16 PM
And then I didn't realize it until I was in the store to order the extra that I needed because I'd mis-measured the room.
So fail compounded upon fail.
@SteveJackson That sounds like a story!
 
@KarlKatzke Youch - will you have to pay restocking?
 
@SteveJackson Hard to restock it when I have about 80 sq ft of it already stuck to the DITRA.
So I'm just rolling with the color change and will just need to change the color of the walls slightly to balance things out.
It's a little blue-grey-er, but only by a tinge, than the stuff I wanted.
(Which is why I didn't notice. I thought I'd just gotten a bad batch and was kicking myself for buying the cheaper tile.)
 
You know you'll be the only person that ever knows. I repainted my car door and it's greener than the rest. Everyone tells me I'm absolutely crazy.
 
@BMitch whew thanks! sorry about that -- i was afk for waaaaaaaay longer than i thought i'd be
 
@AarthiDevanathanΨ FOR SHAME!
hides
 
7:19 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I KNOW I AM SO ASHAMED
 
@AarthiDevanathanΨ I hope my squeaking didn't scare you off
 
@BMitch nope i was returning something to the company downstairs.
 
@KarlKatzke ouch
 
and then they got distracting
 
@RebeccaChernoff chases after rebecca holding a squeaking @BMitch
s/holding/brandishing/
 
7:20 PM
@KarlKatzke terrifying. q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff I know, ain't he?
 
it's true
 
I'm so going to make his username on the blog "squeaker" or something like that
So @SteveJackson, did you patch any drywall this week? ;)
 
@KarlKatzke One more coat of mud tonight
 
lets see if this works...
15 mins ago, by Rebecca Chernoff
http://diy.blogoverflow.com
we got a blog! (for the weekly update record)
 
7:22 PM
Re: my tile ... the tile I wanted was Oyster ... The tile I got was Pearl: emser.com/showroom/strands/strands.html
 
<-- discovered the joys of cutting a hole in a stainless steel sink
 
@BMitch Yep. For those who are interested in posting to it, I will put a post up on Meta where people can sign up for accounts.
 
IT LIIIIIIIVES
 
@KarlKatzke That's nice tile @Karl
 
i like the tile
 
7:23 PM
My brother did a showroom bathroom in something similar - came out great
 
@SteveJackson I have to agree with Steve, DIYers notice everything that no one else would ever see
 
@KarlKatzke note that you will have a bit of trouble with this. That's why we generally want a mod as an admin since they can just pull from SE profile. I guess maybe just have people plop into chat, type in their email, have you add it right then, and delete the message?
 
@KarlKatzke they're both lovely.
 
@SteveJackson Thanks, it's only $3/sq ft too through my tile retailer. Much cheaper than the $7/sq ft Daltile that I was looking at.
@RebeccaChernoff I was actually going to direct people to email me via the Contact page on my blog at karlkatzke.com/contact , which will send me an email without storing it anywhere.
 
@KarlKatzke I'm going to have to stay in your good graces. Bathroom remodel is on my honeydo list.
 
7:25 PM
When I put in new tile in my basement, I brought home 3 different samples from Home Depot. Picked one out, great. Then a couple days later I took the chosen sample back to buy all the tile I needed. Had a panic in the store because I had grabbed the wrong sample and had an internal battle convincing myself of that while I was standing in the aisle.
 
@SteveJackson "honey, do this" list?
 
@AarthiDevanathanΨ Yep. Though to be honest I probably add to the list faster than she does
 
@SteveJackson Just ping me. I'm involved with three bathroom remodels right now, none of them my own. I love tile and bathrooms.
 
@KarlKatzke let me know if you want me to ask Stupid New Renter questions that you can then answer.
whistles innocently
 
@AarthiDevanathanΨ HA! Go ahead, that's what this is here for. :) And anyone else with project updates, pipe up.
 
7:27 PM
@KarlKatzke It'll be a few years. I've got to save up the cash and move some walls before I get to tile.
 
@KarlKatzke oh i meant for Real Reputation ;)
 
I discovered the source of my water intrusion, the neighbor built up his back yard above my siding
 
@SteveJackson Heh. Oh, those are the fun parts. We just did that in a friend's house a few weeks ago ... I showed him how to frame out a new wall with proper headers over the doorway and square framing.
 
and the brick pad he installs now slopes into my wall
 
7:28 PM
bmitch: That's actually probably actionable
 
the downsides of owning a townhouse, you have to worry about your neighbors screwing things up
 
if his work changed the water flow in a way to harm your property you can pursue it to force a change
 
we're on good terms, so I told him to dig it up
he's going to
 
had a buddy building a house, was accused of just that and sued over it - till he proved the neighbor suing him did his own damage
thats good
 
I've helped them in the past, replaced a bathroom door after they had to kick it in because the doorknob jammed
 
7:30 PM
@TheEvilGreebo i see what you did there.
 
@AarthiDevanathanΨ whistles innocently
btw LOVE the Area 51 voting changes
 
afk meeting
 
so I learned the joys of installing cheap laminate this weekend
 
do tell
 
I followed the instructions and built up the counter on blocks - to find that it ended up sitting too high
and the sink clips were evil - just evil - got more cuts on my hand from those...
turns out our 'sink base' was a hacked up non-sink base and the sink didn't exactly fit in it where I'd positioned it ... which blew out the front of the water damaged cabinet
fortunately this is all temporary - the old counter was falling apart and ant infested, this replacement only needs to hold up a year or two
 
7:35 PM
what happens in a year or two?
 
we redo the whole kitchen w/ new cabinets and probably quartz counters
this replacement was mainly to deal w/ the ants and the collapsing counter that was there already
 
That sounds like a sweet upgrade. BTW, sorry, chat stopped working for me for a while, no idea why.
 
OH - and the d/w drain port broke off the old disposal - had to replace it
 
as has been joked about many times in the comments, don't deal with ants, just kill em
 
the job looks like hell right now but at least the counter is sturdy :)
lol - we tried!
 
7:36 PM
srsly. I have finally evicted the last ant colony that was chewing on my house.
 
I had to call in an expert on carpenter ants. They kicked my butt thorughly.
 
And the drainage thing -- you have to worry about that kind of stuff in a normal neighborhood too. The guy that owns the house behind me and rents it out to college students drains his yard into mine, unfortunately it's been that way for a long time. I'm going to have to put in a french drain eventually because of it.
 
I'm always on the lookout, invaders aren't far from my home
 
So on my simple drywall project (leak repair), I had an issue with my drywall crumbling away, which @Tester101 provided good advice for - and I neglected to follow it to the letter. I didn't want to cut to the next joist because then I'd have to do an inside corner while hanging over the stove. So I cut about 4 inches over and figured I'd run a couple crosses in between to have something to screw to.
There was plumbing in the cavity, but I just figured I'd put the 2x4s flat and give myself more to screw to anyway.

Made all my braces, climbed into the attic to install. Too fat. Only about 3/4 inch between the drywall and the pipe.
 
7:39 PM
So I cut a strip of 1/2" plywood to make a furring strip. Then I couldn't get a screw into it
 
I was about the suggest the plywood if your existing drywall had any structure left
 
I got it eventually by drilling a 3" screw through the middle of it, sticking that in the seam and then holding that with pliers while I screwed drywall screws through it
Of course I had to run to the store in the middle because I don't keep 1" drywall screws hanging around
 
I've used thinner wood before, even a spare piece of resilient channel, to get two pieces of drywall aligned
 
Last week I said I would post pics of my bathroom gut. Here is a link that should work for everyone: picasaweb.google.com/115012618361752306736/…
let me know if it does not work
 
On top of that, I didn't think about the extra pain from doing two drywall seams 4 inches apart. Luckily I dealt with much worse when I framed in the nursery.
@auujay You've been busy!
 
7:44 PM
@auujay Looks great! Much more progress than we've made recently.
 
That was not one weeks worth of work :)
I work on it only on the weekends.
 
@SteveJackson did you check the pipe for leakage before closing it up?
 
@auujay good pics
 
@SteveJackson that's when I consider it one large seam and mud over the whole space.
 
@Tester101 I did. The pipes weren't actually the leak. I need to put a question up for that.
 
7:46 PM
@auujay nice looking job
 
Oh! I forgot the other 'improvement' event since the last chat. I don't have pictures, but the galvanized pipe in the attic of my girlfriend's rental house -- which had just been replaced the year before -- sprung a leak. It rusted right through. From now on, I'm ripping out any galvanized I encounter.
 
@SteveJackson could be condensation forming on the pipe.
 
@BMitch yep, did the tape coats separate and then used bigger knives to float it out from there.
@Tester101 The leak was from my dryer vent.
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Q: Why am I finding condensation in my dryer?

Steve JacksonI live in Houston, TX (Very Hot, Very Humid). In the summertime, my dryer is dripping with water, when not in use. I do not have overly excessive drying times. My dryer is vented via an unfortunate run of over 25 feet with two elbows. It exhausts through the roof. Dryer is in the center of t...

So that cap (there's a pic in the question) has a gap between the flashing and the stack to let rain out if it gets in. What appears to have happened is it filled with soggy dryer lint. That led it to overflow down the tube until the first tape gap. It then leaked all over the plywood I installed to install the booster fan, and pooled until it found it's way to the gap between two sheets.
 
@KarlKatzke galvanized sucks! I had galvanized pipe coming from the meter feeding the house, when I ripped it out and replaced it with PEX I could hardly see through the pipe!
 
Which naturally was the joist above my kitchen. Water leaked down the joist and poolled in my flourescent light until I got rained on while making dinner.
 
7:52 PM
Galvanized pipe - nature's hardened arteries
 
@Tester101 No kidding. This pipe had only been there a year or two, and it was so corroded on the inside that it had sprung a leak and threw a ton of rust flakes into the rest of the water system. I've been cleaning plugged up shower heads for the last week.
 
@KarlKatzke After two years??? Yikes!
 
two years? I didn't think anyone still installed galv
 
@SteveJackson Yeah. I hate to see what the older stuff in the walls looks like. Glad it isn't my house. I have a friend who bought a house with Galv, and we've been planning her bathroom renovations. I think I know what to add t them.
@TheEvilGreebo You can still buy it, I think they had a "handyman" replace this section.
 
Somebody replaced galvanized with galvanized? for real?
 
7:55 PM
Yuck.
The stuff eventually corrodes through to the point that it forms pinhole leaks all along the pipe. Ask me how I found that out?
 
@Tester101 You would not believe the things that have been done to this poor rental house.
Anyway, the landlord was going to save $50 and have the plumber put a clamp on it, but we conveniently "missed her call" and I had him replace the entire section with CPVC. Couldn't do it myself because the lease forbid tenants to do any work on the place unless appropriately licensed.
Which ... I understand, but grrrr. In parts it was like $50. Or less.
 
Grrr. I hate landlords who do crap like that. They give guys like me a bad name.
<-- trying to be a REPUTABLE slum lord thank you very much
 
I think it's a good idea to not allow tenants to do work.
 
hehehe. This landlord is a realtor. She hires the cheapest labor and has them install really otherwise nice materials in shoddy ways.
 
Sure, but you might get shoddy materials and labor if the tenant does the work.
 
8:02 PM
@Tester101 I agree as well, but it chafes when the tenant knows how to do things and the landlord is cheap. So 99.9% of the time it's a good policy.
I'm the .1%
 
Anyone have much experience with polybutylene? It's running through my yard as my supply and I'm afraid I'll have to replace it.
 
yes, I had some, it ruptured
 
No experience with it ... it's your main supply? I would plan on replacing it sometime when it's convenient.
 
@SteveJackson is it before the meter?
 
had a house built in the 80's - plan to replace it before you have to
 
8:07 PM
@Tester101 Between the house and the meter
 
the window for any kind of compensation from the class action is also long past
 
Too bad, if it was before the meter it might have been the city/towns problem.
 
I wouldn't have known, but it leaked right at the meter a couple years ago and I had to do a patch job. So now I'm paranoid whenever I see standing water in the front yard. Add that to the drought condition and I'm leaning towards the ticking time bomb theory.
 
I 100% agree with you. I'd probably plan on doing it when you can afford to this fall ... or it'll fail either when it's like 18 degrees out or when it's 110 next summer. Murphy's law of plumbing.
 
Typically when something goes wrong, my response is "Murphy, you a**hole"
 
8:13 PM
Ha! I work with a lady, last name Murphy. Might not go as well :)
 
It's much easier to hire a day laborer when it's medium-warm out, sit there and drink a mint julep while he digs up the old line, and then put the new line in while it's a comfortable temp and in good day light.
 
@SteveJackson, how far do you have to run the line? Under the foundation?
 
On your schedule, no less, as opposed to when the line has already burst
 
@KarlKatzke LOL! See, I was almost going the other route just because I'm not experienced with plumbing. I'm all for learning on the job, but that's a huge fix if I screw it up. I know some people who do know what they're doing though, might be worth offering them an all expenses paid trip (presuming you want to sleep on an air mattress) to my house to supervise.
@BMitch - I have no idea
 
Even so - you can do the digging work yourself and just pay for the replacement which is a lot cheaper
 
8:16 PM
up to the inside shutoff?
 
@BMitch My inside shutoff is on the outside. I'll have to pull back the insulation and look.
 
@SteveJackson You're in Houston, right?
 
Yep, just off Barker Cypress
 
@SteveJackson 2 weeks out of 3, I'm at Briar Forest and beltway.
I haven't done that repair myself before, but it's not really that complicated of one...
 
@KarlKatzke My brother works over there
 
8:20 PM
My girlfriend lives over there, works for an engineering company up on 10 at 8.
I work from home. :)
But yeah, if you ever need an extra hand, drop me a line. I usually spend my weekends there working on other people's houses for fun. ;)
And honestly... a proactive fix when you know you're going to have something wrong eventually is way cheaper than a leak and sinkhole.
Especially with the water restrictions right now. The HOA next to mine got fined like $80,000 for not fixing sprinkler system leaks.
 
@KarlKatzke what you figure replacing with - cpvc or copper?
(or galvanized ? ;) )
 
@TheEvilGreebo I usually suggest copper if it's not a long run, just because you know it'll hold up. CPVC is way cheaper though and I think it's probably just as durable for as long as we're among the living and diying.
 
pex isn't approved for underground, is it?
 
I think it will work for underground, but I'm not convinced that it's the best material for it.
I've seen some early failures with PEX that have me worried about how it'll do long-term. That's the same problem I have with putting CPVC underground. Plastic eventually gets brittle, especially when the moisture around it changes frequently,.
I'm pretty sure that the city I live in, whose utility department is very good, suggests copper supply runs but doesn't require them.
(That'd be College Station, TX.)
 
@KarlKatzke I appreciate the offer. I'll keep you posted.
 
8:31 PM
That is a good suggestion for a question, though, which I might post to the front page if @SteveJackson doesn't post it first. ;)
 
I claim intellectual property rights
and demand a percentage of all proceeds from the question
 
@TheEvilGreebo you get more points for answering it :)
 
Feh, traditionalist! ;)
anyway - later all :)
 
according to Lowesforpros "using PEX for underground water supplies is not ideal". due to chemical exposure concerns.
 
Question is all yours @Karl - looks like it'll be a good one
 
8:39 PM
Awesome.
I always love the opportunity to ask questions ... I'm always worried that I don't ask enough. :-P
 
+1 for that, will be interested in the answers
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Q: When replacing a supply line to a house in Houston, TX, what is the best material to use?

Karl KatzkeA house in Houston, TX (southern "sun belt" climate, no frost, but flexible clay soils) has a Polybutalyne supply line running from the meter to the house. It's already burst once and been repaired, but the homeowner is considering replacing it entirely before it fails given that the repaired por...

 
Plastic Pipe and Fittings Association (PPFA) says PEX can be used for underground water service piping.
 
@Tester101 Answer the question so we can upvote you. :)
 
That doesn't really answer the question.
just says according to those guys you can use PEX.
 
holy shamoley i think this is the most people that have ever been in here
 
8:50 PM
High density polyethylene plastic pipe (HDPE), sounds good according to plasticpipe.org.
 
We're almost out of time, so I'm going to ask this now:
Should we move these to Mondays? Or Fridays? or some other day?
 
I like Thursdays, personally, but I'm fine with Fridays. Mondays are too hectic for me.
Fridays I sometimes have off and am doing things.
 
1 vote for Monday or Thursday here
if I start traveling again, I won't be here for Thursday, and Monday would be 50/50
 
I would easily miss one friday out of three, and possibly more.
 
decide this amongst yourselves! goes afk for a minute
 
9:03 PM
well, since we're all here on a Thursday, it seems unfair to have us decide if others can't make it on Thursdays
 
hehehehe
 
@BMitch laughs well okay.
 
@BMitch makes a good point.
 
for the forseeable future, let's just keep this here.
 
I think we've gotten good crowds on Thursday.
 
9:04 PM
ok, leave the question open on meta in case some people start to feel left out, they can vote to move it there
 
A+ i can do that for sure.
 
Speaking of open questions on Meta...
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Q: We've got a blog! Would you like to contribute to it?

Karl KatzkeFirst off, we've got a blog! Would you like to contribute to it? You'll need to contact an administrator for an account. We need to know your username here on diy.stackexchange.com, and we'll need to know your email address -- or at least, the one you want to be associated with on the blog. Ple...

 
I'm getting stuck with the name squeaky aren't I? :)
 
@RebeccaChernoff would you mind closing up shop for me? :D
 
What's the title?
I've got the bookmark ready

Project Update Thursday 05

2 hours ago, 1 hour 50 minutes total – 215 messages, 8 users, 1 star

Bookmarked 27 secs ago by BMitch

Thanks for playing everyone
@AarthiDevanathanΨ oh, and I was biting my tongue, but "that's what she said" :)
 
9:11 PM
@BMitch GROAN
 
there's a reason I keep my bad jokes out of the bookmarked thread
 
lolol i'll close this properly later. byeee everyone!
 
ok, there's a proper closing?
 
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