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12:29 AM

@BESW Best. Title. Ever!

(Though I will say that I put copulation well outside the "zone of things Persuasion can achieve" circle at my tables. I've got no particular desire to mechanize things that far.)

BESW

yeah, as a general rule I keep my tables PG-13-ish for Sex And Language, R-ish for Themes And Violence.

(Though of course it changes a lot depending on the game, that's the general ceiling for the group overall.)

trogdor

I don't want a character I am role playing to be involved in sex (or at least "on screen" as it were)

way too embarrassing and awkward to me

probably to some degree witnessing anyone else role play that would also be

I blame society for telling us sex is worse than violence

but wtv

nitsua60

Ditto here. I only bring it up because that particular question is trying to produce offspring through a Persuasion roll.

trogdor

that is a strange way to go about that

BESW

When a target difficulty and a roll modifier love each other very much...?

Skyler

12:38 AM

advantage

also often players in my group will bring sex more to the forefront.
For example, Instead of allowing for a fade to black style conclusion to my character finding a tavern girl the druid decides to become an overbearing witness and crash our parade in his own grizzzly ways. I end up using some spell with knockback that had an attack roll as well and crit that, the DM describes the scene as going something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-CS8L_8LBk

BESW

Yeeeah, that's where someone needs to stop the action and get everyone to deal with it on a player level rather than a character level.

Turning "I want to impose my preferences on your game play" into a contest of who has the better character build isn't great.

Skyler

honestly we had a heck of a good laugh from that, and the druid bear that got blown out fell on this band of bumbling (and very unlcuky) mercenaries we'd met before and crushed their (replacement) leader and he had to fight his way out

though when a bear descends from the heavens you do sort of freak the heck out so it wasnt too bad

BESW

1:55 AM

My @Wizards_DnD players range in age from 8-22. Last summer I taught a writing and gaming course for 4th to 8th graders using @EvilHatOfficial Fate Accelerated. Gaming with kids is great!

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doppelgreener

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Q: What is the maximum amount of spells per day that a Druid can reach at 1st level with unlimited money?

Assuming a standard point-buy and a very lenient GM who has given away a tremendous amount of gold of exactly one (1) infinity and allows any official Paizo books to be used, how many spells per day can a Druid reach in Pathfinder? You can use any Paizo-published material, but no 3d-party sources...

Shalvenay

@doppelgreener ... what do you want us to do with it? :o

doppelgreener

DMs, please be responsible. Giving a player infinite gold means that the entire material plane is infinitely overloaded with gold. Every single piece of space will be crammed with infinitely dense amounts of gold, because that's what infinity is. Every portal will overflow with gold, and subsequently so will every other plane be filled with infinite gold. All the planes will be doomed to collapse into black holes, and probably combine into one massive interplanar super black hole.

Please stick to reasonably small amounts of gold, such as finite numbers, preferably in the natural number spectrum, and with a number of digits you can say in less than a minute instead of never because it's infinitely long.

@Shalvenay nothing, just messing around :D

BESW

What about arbitrarily large but not infinite gold?

Phlegethontia was a snake-like amphibian from the Carboniferous & Permian periods. They spent most of their time in the water. (Credit: Smokeybjb, Nobu Tamura)

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Forty Elephants

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doppelgreener

@BESW Arbitrarily large can be "three gold", which is more reasonable, as long as it is not "large enough amount to cause an intercosmic cataclysmic existence-ending black hole", because that is inconvenient and due to spacetime dilation will make the wait time at the chemist's take literally forever.

@BESW Elephant and Castle! I lived near there for a bit!

I've been through there a few times. :D

Skyler

3:22 AM

druidic focus

oops meant to search that

Shalvenay

3:44 AM

hey btw @Asteria

BESW

3:57 AM

Found this on a D&D fourm, it deserves attention. #DnD #dungeonsanddragons #rollplay #rpg #gaston

Tweeted by StpArt on January 13, 2018 at 5:09 PM

nitsua60

@Miniman your third bullet point is the first thing that's made me want to play a barbarian since, oh, 1e's UA (hardcover).

BESW

In 3.5, a large number of my non-caster characters took a one-level dip into Barbarian mostly for the speed boost.

...including my catfolk ranger, because racial 40 ft +10 barb +10 magic item +10 Prc +10 feat, x5 Run, plus a super-tricked-out Shot On The Run, means that, given the room, he spends all combat doing nothing but devastating Parthian shots on foot.

BESW

4:30 AM

(...+10 flaw, +10 trait...)

Miniman

@nitsua60 Getting allied spellcasters to buff your speed? [nonplussed]

nitsua60

(whoops... edited)

Magician

That's some nontrivial (ab)use of mod power, editing ancient messages :P

nitsua60

Esp. if a generous GM would houserule that inflaming oneself could be a bonus action rather than a full action. Or an object-interaction, even better!

"Time is an illusion. Chat-time doubly so."
- The Guide

Magician

@nitsua60 ...hah. That's how GW2's guardians use torches: "Set yourself alight, periodically burning up to three nearby foes."

nitsua60

4:40 AM

GW2?

Magician

Guild Wars 2

Come to think of it, that seems to be the preferred torch usage in Tyria (GW2's setting), as berzerkers also set themselves on fire with it: "Flamers of War: Cleanse conditions and become a mobile fire field that burns nearby foes. When the field expires, it explodes, damaging foes and burning them again."

Through experimentation, melee characters have determined that eating flaming sticks is not good, hitting enemies with flaming sticks is good, and hitting yourself with flaming sticks so you become a larger flaming stick and proceed to hit enemies is doubleplusgood.

"Behold: I have discovered Fire"

nitsua60

In all seriousness, though, barbarians dropping out of rage isn't a problem I've seen much of.

Skyler

guys, how would you hand everybody in a party having net 0 for persuasion and then that one guy with expertise who will have like +10

Miniman

@nitsua60 Nor me.

Skyler

5e

Shalvenay

4:54 AM

@Skyler ...you know who the party face is? xD

BESW

@Skyler What problem have you experienced this causing?

Skyler

it was with a different group than the one im with now, but what would happen is that it just downright discouraged anybody else from joining in the dialogue pillar of the game

the DM bumped up difficulty for persuasion checks since he felt we were getting away with too much

making the others even worse at this

BESW

Oh, that sounds like the GM was presenting dialogue as purely a "convince other people do to what I want" interface.

Shalvenay

@BESW yeah, which I don't think is right

it sounds like that GM could use some CRM training :P

BESW

Persuasion should not be the only reason to talk to someone.

Skyler

4:59 AM

yea, the GM im playing with (who im good friends with) has way more experience and already i spoke to him about this some, he's going to bring other characters other skills into the dialogue mix to help allow them to do specialized roles in that

BESW

Also--not all dialogue needs skills?

yea of course

d20

3

Makes sense to me

5:00 AM

but being very convincing lends itself to frustrating a DM sometimes

so I want to minimize that chance for an arms race, though before approaching a DM i try to have a few possible solutions in mind to any problem

the simplest is that I'd do the expertise in something else

but I guess I haven't really played with an experienced DM to get an idea of why super high persuasion isn't a point of agitations

BESW

Mmm. So, again, goblin dice are a thing--is the GM letting just one roll determine the outcome of a significant conversation?

Skyler

I doubt that. We start next week, first time playing with him but these are things I'd need to have sorted out before finishing character creation, you know?

nitsua60

2:09 PM

@Skyler Ah, this is a different thing, in my book. This is why I've adopted the AL "allow character rebuilds up through level 4" rule for my home play. It allows me to say to my players "let's cobble something together--you don't even need to fill in every part of your character sheet yet--and see how you like it in play. No choice you make now (except your name) will be set in stone until you've had some time to get used to me, to the character, to the campaign."

See also rpg.stackexchange.com/a/73079/23970

doppelgreener

2:22 PM

@nitsua60 i've had characters change their name before though :D

Shalvenay

4:28 PM

hey there @Anaphory

Peter Cooper Jr.

5:16 PM

@nitsua60 I do have to wonder why one would have a requirement to keep the name the same. Particularly if somebody might change their race and thereby the name may not make as much sense anymore.

Shalvenay

5:32 PM

hey there @Rubiksmoose

hey as well @DavidBenKnoble and welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

nitsua60

@PeterCooperJr. I assume it's to do with logsheets--the character's name is the only identifier there. (I mean, there's player name and player DCI, but character name is the only thing that "ensures" that you're applying session rewards to the right character.)

Peter Cooper Jr.

5:54 PM

@nitsua60 So there's no particular reason to require keeping name the same for my home game. Which I certainly assumed, it just seems like such a specific exception that AL must have a reason for it. But I know very little about AL.

David Ben Knoble

hey @Shalvenay thanks for the welcome.

Shalvenay

9:37 PM

hey there @Asteria :)

Asteria

hey hey @Shalvenay

Shalvenay

how're things going?

I'm recovering from a bout of flu here. still quiet on your end?

Asteria

@Shalvenay bit quiet, had some blades on the weekend which was uber frustrating. Get better soon though, flu is the worst

Shalvenay

@Asteria awww at the blades being frustrating, what happened btw? also, now an OK time to chat n Discord?

Asteria

@Shalvenay meta gamey PC + railroady GM + frustrated partner = a really, really bad TRPG. Also, sure on the discord

BESW

10:02 PM

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation threw a retirement party for its mail robots https://trib.al/e7FmxzQ

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Not sure which is more alarming: English wine or English bears?

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BESW

10:20 PM

Optional Boss Fight

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Shalvenay

@BESW -- re: cultural issues -- I've been looking at a setting called Tekumel that is said to be grounded in some not-so-conventional sources. I'm wondering if you're at all familiar with it, or want to look through it and opine on how well it treats its source material for that matter?

BESW

10:35 PM

I've heard not-terrible things about it, though a quick glance says it's going to suffer from the inevitable Mayincatec problems with mashing a bunch of "old and far away" cultures together.

It seems to be trying to Say Something About Prejudice And Colonialism, which may be very cool or very cringeworthy.

trogdor

10:46 PM

I don't know too much specific about the Maya, but I learned a shade about the Inca just recently

a book I finished reading recently touched on them as a side subject

doesn't make me an expert by far but interesting reading none the less

the guy could have cut out some of his hero worship though

Quentin

I need to chop this PDF up and put a set of pages together as a player's handout section. (He said, discovering that his printer had printed 6 copies of the entire game instead of 6 copies of each of four pages scattered throughout of the file).

Ah well. At least I'm ready for Con-Tingency now.

Shalvenay

11:43 PM

hey there @SevenSidedDie

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