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12:00 AM
3.5 is the one with boatloads of content published for it (some of it free on the internet), while 5e is the shiny new one that is officially supported today.
4e was lacking in popularity for a bit, I believe.
 
3.5 and 5e are also the editions with the most freely-available information in the form of SRDs and OGLs.
Many folks play them without purchasing any material from Wizards of the Coast.
 
12:16 AM
Although, sadly, that doesn't extend to adventures.
 
@Miniman Pardon?
 
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Q: Free Basic-Rules-only adventure to showcase D&D 5e

BESWWith the free release of the 5e Basic Rules, I'm looking for an adventure to introduce myself and my group to 5e (in the spirit of this question): we want to try the system before deciding if we'll invest resources in the edition. The adventure should be useable out of the box with only free Ba...

 
BESW, trogdor and I have been waiting on a free D&D 5e adventure to crop up suitable for actually introducing ourselves to the system.
 
@Miniman Tubey Fare, the OGL means there's a ton of third-party 5e adventures.
My request there is hard to fill because nobody's been able to take a stand on whether any of them are good at showcasing what makes 5e great.
 
@BESW Are there many actually available now that are free?
 
12:33 AM
@doppelgreener Yes.
 
It should be a simple matter to filter DMs Guild for free adventures, but their mobile ui sucks.
 
An aggressive DTRPG filter yields 15, and I've seen a lot on other less formal sites as well.
 
@BESW Yay!
 
12:49 AM
Actually, now that I think about it, the one my sister wrote might not be a bad one to showcase Basic. I'll have to look at it.
 
For example, the 4e adventure Keep on the Shadowfell had encounters designed to show off its various tactical awesomeness. It was a teaching session where often the NPCs would use a feature in one fight, and then a later fight would be set up for the PCs to use that feature themselves.
Granted, that adventure was spread out across three levels and many sessions, but that was largely because of XP padding and 4e's tediously long combat durations.
 
yeah, 4e definitely had those issues
plus weird balance problems, but at least they were different ones to what 3.5 had XD
 
1:12 AM
hey there @Emrakul
 
user61230
Helllllo!
 
hello
I see you changed your profile picture
into an origami owl no less
how cute
 
[wave]
 
user61230
1:39 AM
Yeah! I like it!
 
user61230
And, waves back!
 
@Emrakul Your avatar is a cute owl! Wow!
 
user61230
Hey, thanks! :]
 
Also it's nice to see you!
 
now the holiday season, with the ceremonial placing of the tiny santa hat on this owl, can officially begin https://t.co/c3fQVePaFW
 
1:44 AM
why does my post have -1 votes?
 
Two people don't value your question highly enough, I imagine. I can't discern people, however.
Post in question, for those wondering.
 
what does that mean? they didnt like my question so they down vote me?
 
Hover over the downvote arrow. See the tooltip?
 
but i was clear and did put research into my question before i asked it
.-.
 
If you feel your question can't be improved, then take it as the inevitable noise of the system and move on.
If you gather more downvotes, revisit the question and try to read it with fresh eyes to look for ways it could be improved.
I'm guessing it's about self-answered questions, though.
There's a small handful of people who think they're somehow "cheating" or who believe it's courteous to observed an unstated custom of waiting some arbitrary length before self-answering, to "give others a chance."
This view usually sees self-answered questions as an attempt to game the system for points. This is... demonstrably not the Stack's official attitude, though.
If the question and answer add quality to the site, that's what matters and quality contributions should be rewarded with points.
 
1:54 AM
I just downvoted the answer - you converted someone else's comment into an answer, and it doesn't even really answer your question.
 
yea well i would have rather voted for the other guy saying his was the right answer to give him credit
 
I don't see any problem with the question, though.
 
but thats not a function thats available and from what i read on the meta people were saying just self answer
 
@Miniman Converting comments to answers is totally cool.
 
If I may suggest, you may in general find more useful information by asking where you can learn about the homeland of the dwarves — that way if it's in the PHB you get to see where, if it isn't, you still get to see where.
 
1:56 AM
But yeah, it doesn't seem like a really solid answer.
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A: How to deal with answers in comments?

TridusAsking them to post it as an answer is a great first step. There are lots of users who honestly don't know better, and a few who do know better but slip up anyway. (Not that I'd know anything about that. ;) ) If they do post it as an answer, great! Vote on it as appropriate and flag the comments...

 
It is! But generally not with a straight Copypasta, and as I (and d7) said, it doesn't actually answer the question.
 
i think it answerd the qustion it told me there isnt in depth info like that in the PH4e but there was alot of info in the other campaign books for 4e
 
@BESW Earlier today this meta happened:
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Q: what button makes a comment appear as an answer?

DoctorGIf I post a question then someone answers said question as a comment how do I say that’s the right answer, (what button do I click) so that they get the proper recognition? How do I vote a comment as helpful? If these aren't features yet I feel like they should be.

 
its not straight i edited out the the unnecessary stuff
i did upvote his comments to try n give him some rep
 
Comments are intentionally divorced from the reputation system.
 
2:00 AM
Upvoting comments doesn't give rep: it indicates the comment should not be deleted.
 
I suspect I should edit that because Oblivious Sage is not answering in comments, he is (as i now recognise SSD was pointing out) saying the question is flawed.
 
As various meta posts you've seen indicate, comments are a temporary tool for improving permanent (question/answer) content.
 
hows it flawed?
 
@doppelgreener A properly supported answer explaining the flaw in a question is a good answer, but...
We're dealing in edge cases here where nothing's totally obvious how it should be handled.
 
@DoctorG it's sort of an "are you sure about that?" check comment. If it doesn't exist, asking where to find it is weird.
@BESW I agree
 
2:02 AM
@DoctorG You're asking for helping with the solution you've decided is the right one (finding the place in the PHB with the information you're looking for), rather than asking for solutions to the problem (finding information about dwarven homelands in 4e).
 
ive looked
 
That's artificially limiting the kind of answers you'll get, making it less likely you'll get the best solution to your problem.
 
i couldnt find what i was looking for i wanted homelands and how they differ culturally
 
Right, so asking for help in finding that information is good.
Asking for where in one particular book you'll find it means if the best info isn't in that book, people might not tell you where to find the best info.
Unless that's the only book you have access to, that's a flaw in the way the question's being asked.
It makes it harder to get the best possible answers to your actual problem.
It's a subtle difference, but a significant one. Front-end the problem: wanting to be able to randomly choose from a list of dwarven regions for your PC's origin, with enough information about them to fuel backstory.
 
i didnt know were i could find the best info for my question was located but as i said in my question i thought i saw what i was looking for in 4e but when i went back to look for it i couldnt find it so i thought i might have been mistaken n if i was then were is the best place to find said info and if i wasnt mistaken then were exactly in PHB4e is that info
 
2:09 AM
...It's also kinda hard to parse your syntax without punctuation.
Is this your question?
> I would like to use dice to randomly select my dwarf PC's home region, to help build my backstory/personality. I thought I saw somewhere in the 4e Player's Handbook the different regions the dwarves live in, but now I can't find it. Where can I find information about dwarven regions in the standard 4e setting, with enough detail to help inspire my backstory and personality?
 
I would not be specific to the standard setting
 
Well, that's the trick.
The answer he wants to accept mentions that he might find information about it for three non-standard settings.
The question mentions that he'd be happy with the info in the PHB, which is totally unrelated to any of those three settings.
 
which is probably where he saw those things, without knowing they were for different settings
 
The setting matters a LOT. If he pops into a Forgotten Realms game with a Dark Sun dwarf, there will be... confusion, at best.
 
But I'm just assuming, and it's past 3AM. Goodnight to me.
 
2:13 AM
So specifying what setting he's playing in is important.
 
night
 
Also, "here are some places you could look that might have info" is still a pretty bad answer. A good answer might say something like "the info you're looking for can be found here, here, and here", citing specific books, and preferably page numbers or some other way of locating within the book.
 
@DoctorG Since you asked for info on the "Points of Light" setting (the default PHB world) and posted an answer for three unrelated settings, I'm voting to close as unclear. There is Points of Light info about dwarven regions, just not a lot of detail in the PHB, so limiting the question to PHB material means "It's not in the PHB" doesn't mean "the default setting doesn't have that info, you have to try the other settings."
That's what ObliviousSage is saying, though he didn't say it well.
 
ok /:
 
Just tell us the setting you're playing in, and ask for help finding info about dwarven regions in that setting.
 
2:18 AM
i think i have a misconception that all the differnt versions of the game are very similar and mainly only have minor rule changes like instead of using ur strength for lock picking now its dexterity
 
Yeah, no. Dark Sun, for example, is a post-apocalyptic wasteland of a world where the gods are dead or missing, arcane magic pollutes the land and the soul, and dwarves are mostly slaves.
 
so when i ask qustions about somthing in the 4e i assume that even if its not in 4e someone can tell me were to find that info in a different addition and it not change anything
 
4e changed all the lore.
Its default setting is built very differently from what came before or after. Its alternate settings are a little more reminiscent of their predecessors, but still notably different in some respects.
 
another question how would one create a custom race one of our group members wants to create some sort of undead magical wielding character how would that work
 
If you're trying to find out lore and mechanical answers about 4e but open to other editions, that's kind of like trying to find out mechanical and lore details about Star Wars but accepting info from Star Trek and Thundercats as well.
 
2:23 AM
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Q: Custom Race Creation for D&D 4e

Logan MacRaeThe Monster Manual and Dungeon Master's Guide provides a few examples of how to adapt monsters into full-fledged PC races, but they're limited to only a few options. Are there any resources or other guides, either online or in print, that assist in the creation of a relatively-balanced custom PC...

 
i think star wars with thunder cats would be an interesting movie
 
They're different. Everything is different. It is different in all the big ways and all the little ways. If it is not wholly another ball game entirely, it is still something incompatible because of the sheer omnipresence of small and large changes.
@DoctorG me too, haha
 
whats pc stand for?
 
Player character
As opposed to NPC
 
user61230
Ack, hello! Also, it's nice to see you, too, @doppelgreener!
 
user61230
2:27 AM
Shows how reliable I truly am.
 
Didn't 4e have undead player races? I remember people taking about revenants, at least.
 
Revenant is a class in 4e. Because you can be a revenant dwarf.
 
I must be off!
Goodnight all. :)
 
Yup. Revenant, Vryloka, and the Vampire class.
 
g'night
 
2:31 AM
(Which means you can multiclass Vampire into any other class.)
(And multiclass Vampire is better than full-class Vampire, because it's a late-edition gimmick class.)
 
Just thought it was worth pointing out,you might not need to custom anything.
 
user61230
Goodnight!
 
And I think there's two different versions of Revenant? One from a magazine and one from a book.
 
I think the book one is the definitive one? It's been a while.
 
That seems reasonable.
And of course there's also "my soul has been reincarnated into a new body," "I'm the result of an alien soul forcibly merged with a local body," and "the Shadowfell has infused me with death magic."
 
2:36 AM
..., shardmind, ... wow, i'm failing this quiz
 
Deva, Kalashtar, Shade.
Shardminds are just the sapient remnants of a super-powerful magic item.
 
Of course.
 
I love the POL setting so much.
The rest of D&D can go jump in a hole, but the default 4e setting checks so many of my boxes.
 
@BESW Pretty sure it gets a save against that.
 
Yeah, and it has advantage on the save because it's too large to fit in the hole.
 
2:41 AM
Hag of Bolding
5
...my mind is weird
It appears to be a Munchkin card, because of course it is.
 
Oct 27 at 1:50, by BESW
Ursula Vernon's serial novel Summer in Orcus just introduced a wolf who turns into a cozy little cottage on the nights of the full moon.
 
@BESW I do as well
they have so many awesome races
 
 
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4:03 AM
hey there @nitsua60
 
4:24 AM
@DoctorG I didn't downvote, but thought about it, probably only held off to prevent "piling on" a relatively new user. You specify a book and ask where in that book something is. That's textbook "not show[ing] any research effort" to me. (Nothing against self-answering, here.)
@Shalvenay hiya
 
@nitsua60 how're things going?
 
not too shabby--you?
 
4:41 AM
@nitsua60 I can't flag, because I'm on mobile, but you left a comment answer on that shield question.
 
sorry, wasn't trying to answer, was trying to point out the question was horribly flawed and should be downvoted. Should've used my words....
In any case, PurpleMonkey posted the same quote, so the comment's gone.
Gonna head to bed--looks like I'm passing the grumpy-threshold =\
 
Cya!
 
 
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5:55 AM
So I was going through my txt files to look for old characters, since someone on the Exalted subreddit needed a ton of solars for some reason, and it occurred to me that some of my notes look very unprofessional. Specifically the filenames. I used to work on a League of Legends site, and now I have a bunch of files like "lol meeting" "lol tasks".
 
 
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8:34 AM
I have a folder called “lies_for_physics”. It's about Lie groups.
 
9:30 AM
When I served on the National Spiritual Assembly, I had a lot of NSA files.
 
How big and inter-connected is Baha'i faith, acutually? How many people do you think are on the shortest link (using “met at a Baha'i event” if that's reasonable) between you and the other Baha'i I know, in Southampton/UK?
 
...chances are good that it's two or three, possibly even one.
There are two likely routes for that. First, there's the institution of the Counsellors; each large region has an appointed individual (81 in all) who oversees networking for coordination, education, and so forth in those areas. They work together and meet together regularly.
Chances are good your friend has met, at the very least, the assistant of her regional Counsellor, who has met my regional Counsellor at their meetings in Haifa, who I've met.
I may have even met your region's Counsellor in Haifa myself, at the 2013 international convention to elect the Universal House of Justice. Which brings me to the other likely path: I've definitely met members of the British National Spiritual Assembly at that convention, and if your friend hasn't met them, certainly her Local Spiritual Assembly has.
So even setting aside the fact that a lot of Baha'is are very well-travelled themselves, there's a strong international connection through the administrative institutions.
(If I hadn't gone to the international convention--eg, not been on the NSA during a UHJ election year--that'd just add one more link to the chain.)
 
That's a very nice thing! From what I have encountered so far, I think you have a very good and sustainable set of principles, structures, and so on.
 
9:47 AM
I like to think so. [grin]
Oh, and if your friend has been on pilgrimage, she's met the UHJ, and I've met the UHJ in 2002 and two UHJs in 2013, so chances are I've met at least one of the members she's met.
Those are the fast and easy routes. Chances are also pretty high that some of my especially well-traveled friends who go to a lot of training areas and such have run into people she knows.
 
Had I encountered Baha'i maybe 10 years earlier, I might have become involved in it, but during the 10 years of my studies, the fundamental philosophical foundations of my world view have changed slowly but drastically, so these days I can only admire the thought and consistency of your faith and institutions.
 
That's fair. If I hadn't been born into it, I'd've probably needed a pretty big clue bat over the head to take any notice of it myself.
You might consider checking out what community-building projects the Baha'is are doing in your area, though--neighbourhoods around the world are using a community-building process developed in Colombia to great effect. It's inspired by Baha'i teachings on service, virtues, and community life, but very much not about conversion, and is totally open participation from anyone who thinks the goals and results are nice regardless of faith.
So if you like the principles, you might be interested to see them in action and participate at whatever level you're comfortable without pressure to convert.
(The community-building training gave me most of my useful GMing skills. Whenever I talk about creating environments, building up player skills to become equal participants in the process, or the reflect/study/plan/act cycle of learning, that's where it's from.)
 
10:06 AM
I see you had interesting conversations with @Grant and @DoctorG. I regret not keeping a closer eye on RPG General Chat proceedings.
 
Indeedy-do.
[sigh] I'm playing "shuffle the files around to reformat hard drives and try not to lose anything in the process."
 
hi guys
 
@Timme [wave] What's new?
 
not much sadly
 
I think this Saturday my group will be updating its old DFAE playtest characters to the new almost-publication-ready version of DFAE.
...and then I'll have to figure out a new adventure for that group. I've got some vague ideas, but the Dresden Files universe is so restrictive for Fate characters.
 
10:17 AM
@BESW I usually grab everything I have, including system files, put it on a separate disk/partition and then copy back into the new system as needed. Everything that's not needed gets forgotten and eventually removed as time goes by
 
@BESW we don't have to do that, though I am up for it
 
@eimyr Yeah, I'm just having to juggle because my old partitioning system has to go, which means it's hard to find a spare disk that everything fits onto neatly.
It's sort of a wolf/cabbage/goat thing.
@trogdor We'll see who shows up.
 
10:58 AM
@Magician Fen Poot Tole?
 
wheee, anydice is a monstrosity...
 
@Trish I have a slight problem with the edits you made to my answer
I didn't want to just remove them to not cause any hard feelings
 
it is no problem if you remove them.
 
but erm... I just don't understand what the footnotes mean!
 
oh!
 
11:03 AM
I'm very unfamiliar with Werewolf lore. And WoD books are not something I'd touch with a pen toot fole.
 
You see, MANY of the parts in WoD are written in-universe style... one extract:
 
Well, that I do uinderstand.
The sourcebook narrator is supposed to represent the worldview of a character from the game and therefore is not omniscient
 
That makes the parts clearly a "view" og the parts.
is it the other part? about even the Werewolfs not sure what gaia is?
 
mostly the other one
I mean, I understand what they say alright, but I have no idea how they relate to what I've said in the main text.
 
it is a reference to that they contradict themselves...
 
11:06 AM
oh, alright then
OOOOHHH
I thought that you are referring to "books" as in "WoD inspired novels"
OK, now that it dawned on me that you meant "sourcebooks" it clicks. The penny has dropped.
 
hengeyokai is a sourcebook
which presents all its lore in fluff. Umbra does so with 50%, but it does state stuff outright like the triat stuff.
 
 
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1:50 PM
@BESW This might be of interest: GUMSHOE one-2-one.
 
2:14 PM
mornin
 
Afternoon.
 
hm, going to dig in Ars Magica 5...
Corpus... not perdo, not creo... MUTO! That was it!
 
@Trish the new world of darkness books are the worse...
 
@DForck42 That's an achievement.
 
what? comeon, they can't be worse than CWOD, where over splat boarders conflicted...
 
2:18 PM
But honestly, nWoD had design improvements. The fluff was ravaged and changed so much it's no longer anything similar.
 
the main font for nwod books are almost illegible, in both printed and pdf formats
they mix rules and world creation together, making it SUPER hard to find anything and figure out what the actual rules are
 
that's not too dissimilar from cWoD
 
@eimyr which one's cWoD?
 
the thing now called Chronicles of Darkness.
 
ahh, is that the SUPER new World of Darkness?
 
2:23 PM
no, that's the oldest
 
ahh ok
 
so, ok, you have CoD, aka cWoD, which is split into 2nd edition and Revised edition (most of the splats)
then you have WoD, aka nWoD, which is Vampire: the requiem etc.
and then you have WoD: 20th anniversary, which is a reboot of cWoD 2nd edition
 
fun
 
Also, don't play WoD.
Any.
 
I was in an nWoD larp for the better part of a year
 
2:25 PM
it sucks
take the fluff you like and plug it into a better game
4
 
2:40 PM
yup
 
2:58 PM
@eimyr That's always the thing to do!
(But in WoD in particular.)
 
@Anaphory you can also take the mechanics you like and plug it into a better fluff (that's something I did with WoD too, plugging nWoD crunch into cWoD revised game)
 
@DForck42 oh no, it just clicked for me that they released God Machine Chronicles then made Chronicles of Darkness come about
easily confusable via hearsay since they're both that new Chronicles book, unless you know exactly what each one is and why they're not the same thing
 
Yes, God Machine Chronicles and Chronicles of WoD are two completely different things with a terribly confusing name.
I feel for Paradox Interactive.
 
lol
god, white wolf publishing is a mess
 
3:31 PM
Storytelling/Storyteller, World of Darkness (old and new), Chronicles (of the God Machine and of Darkness) – Did they NEVER stop and think “Hang on, we used a very similar name not that many years ago, maybe we should brainstorm for something that means the same but sounds entirely different!”?
 
3:42 PM
@Anaphory Brainstorming is how WoD sourcebooks generally happen.
 
3:54 PM
@eimyr so they just go from brainstorming to publication, with no QA or attempt to clean up anything
 
@DForck42 Oh they probably do, but in the opinion of a significant portion of the audience, it doesn't work very well.
 
@eimyr heh
but yeah, I'm not in the larp anymore
not only are nWODs books terrible, mind's eye society adds on some weird restrictions and extra BS
 
I'm being facetious about it partly because my long-demonstrated love and attachment (sometimes despite my better judgement) makes it clear that I'm not bashing WoD to the ground.
 
@eimyr and I'm not saying the mechanics are bad, far from it. it's just literally impossible to find answers to rules questions
 
Also, I'm an aware fan. I'm ready to admit the shortcomings of my games and if improvements can be proposed for the benefit of all, I'm happy to oblige.
@DForck42 (Yes, the mechanics are very bad. Too many fiddly bits, to many exceptions, unclear default states, older iterations also skew the probability curve in a way that makes roll results more volatile as you improve your character)
 
 
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6:21 PM
anydice is a mess at times... but it is cool to fiddle with it... learning about its functions.
 
makes me mad when I write something that it can't run because it takes > 5 seconds
 
6:52 PM
@LegendaryDude what kind of mess you write in anydice?!
 
7:06 PM
@Trish Future reference, flag that kind of thing as rude/spam. It goes away faster that way.
 
@SevenSidedDie I flagged it :-D
although I flagged it as not an answer
 
@DForck42 Excellent. :) And, I guess I should say that there's nothing wrong with also delete-voting it.
 
oh? roger. Didn't I use Rude/abusive? not sure, I just took one of the top 3...
 
@DForck42 That works too. The dividing line is a matter of judgement.
@Trish Oh, probably then. I can't access that kind of detail; I was just responding to the statement here calling for delete votes.
 
just wanted it gone ASAP
 
7:09 PM
@Trish Oh wait, yes I can see that if I dig. Yeah, you flagged it as Offensive.
 
7:31 PM
@Trish I agree that's rude/abusive and not appropriate for respectful discourse. We've seen much worse and I am glad the mods take a stance against it.
 
@doppelgreener @SevenSidedDie I am grateful this site has working mods. I saw sites without any mod active for months
 
@Trish that's why I stepped down as mod on movies when I became too inactive, then mod elections happened and we have good mods
we also thankfully have good active mod-like users as well
 
What the... why do people so love it when I start to be ingenious and apply evil thinking<sup>TM</sup> to create posts? First summoning a bunch of imps equipped with sending stones to avct as 'cameras' for a police state, now using mundane utilities and being crazy prepared to fight Zombies in a Fantasy setting...
 
@Trish huh?
 
When I make a slightly sarcastic answer, then oddly enough those seem to gather lots of votes lately....
 
7:39 PM
@Trish ahh, lol
cause people like creative answers?
 
maybe... or they like thinking out of the box...
 
@Trish there's a reddit post today about a gold coin-like creature that eats gold
it's really neat
 
a rust-monster?!
 
no, smaller and less dangerous
 
I would have them produce some kind of 'mana' - if they eat like soandso gold coins one can distill the result into some kind of spell restoration potion.
 
7:50 PM
yeah, I like the idea of them producing something, but I'd like it to take a while so the benefit isn't inherently obvious
say, once it's eaten 1k gold, it produces 1.2k worth of stuff
 
or something that isn't usually on the market. Like a potion of spell restoration isn't anywhere in the books...
 
8:07 PM
@Trish that'd be neat
 
8:56 PM
@Trish Nothing particularly messy, mostly looping over too many numbers in a sequence, so when anydice fails me I just try the same thing in Python
 
9:07 PM
@DForck42 ....that's already a thing. Except instead of eating coins, it eats you. By burrowing under your skin and dealing Con damage. It's called the Hoard Scarab, comes individually or in swarms, and is in the 3.5e Draconomicon and I'm pretty sure I've seen it in 4e too.
 
9:18 PM
@BESW that's neat AND terrifying
 
Only removable with cure disease or heal once it's burrowed in.
 
@BESW fun
 
 
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10:40 PM
@DoctorG Btw, I thought I should let you know -- this is true in some games. For example there's 4 different editions of GURPS, but the players of it on this site don't feel much need to distinguish between editions in rules questions with how interchangeable they are. In Fate, a lot of general philosophy has stayed the same and the core rules have not changed too much over time.
Certainly there's also games where the different editions are very similar in all kinds of ways, but have had some critical major adjustments localised to certain areas.
 
11:03 PM
@BESW bonus points for playing Vryloka Vampires.
 
11:20 PM
Only five-sixths of a megasecond until... haaaaaaats!
(yanno, approximately. Depending on when you read that ^^ )
 
11:52 PM
@nitsua60 The countdown ends on the midnight at the end of Dec 18th UTC+0. (i.e between the 18th and 19th.) I just checked the math. \o/
 
it's not on the 15th?
 
@trogdor the countdown's four minutes shy of 864,000 seconds, which is 10 days worth of seconds.
 
ah
ok, I checked the math and that checks out
for some reason the first time I did it, it came out to ending on the 15th
 

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