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2:00 PM
Your aspect needs motive.
 
Since the world is in a renaissance (a sci fi one) lots of knowledge, history, and information is lost.. my character is intrigued by it
Also
his race
The game takes place on Admentia a huge ship with 80,000 people on it, travels around a few local clusters making trade etc... an independent city-state ship.
 
Pure curiosity? Knowledge for knowledge's sake?
 
My people arrived on the ship 300 years ago
And No one alive now knows where we came from
starcharts and information about different planets is a thing of the past....
 
Or is knowledge a means to an end? Does he find it useful? Does it fill a hole in his life?
 
there is no empire or government anymore
He is intrigued by it
It's his hobby
Also - he is a member of the order of the serpent
Which is like... Buddhism or something like that
 
2:02 PM
"It's my hobby" makes for a rather weak trouble, doesn't it?
 
Not a religious order - but one with a belief system.. so he is naturally inquisitive, and tries to learn about everything around him.....
this gets him into trouble
because he doesnt know when to butt out of other peoples business
sort of like a paladin in D&D almost
 
He's intrusively helpful?
 
Let's skip on the fancy words, it's hard for some of the other players.
 
"I'm only trying to help!"
 
How about something to do with curiosity?
 
2:05 PM
Fair enough. I try to load aspects through words.
 
I like phrases as Aspects, myself.
 
I like them too, but am not partial to them.
 
Haroom. Time to hit the quotations.
I often hit up Bartlby to get the juices flowing.
It rarely gives me an exact phrase to use, but makes me think about the subject in different ways.
> No state sorrier than that of the man who keeps up a continual round, and pries into “the secrets of the nether world,” as saith the poet, and is curious in conjecture of what is in his neighbour’s heart.
> The past is such a curious creature, / To look her in the face / A transport may reward us, / Or a disgrace.
 
2:20 PM
I don't think a poem is a good aspect... But that could be a cool idea for a game on its own
 
As I said, not looking for a specific aspect.
Just different ways of thinking about the subject, to help rattle an aspect loose.
 
I see
"Leave no stone unturned"
Thats a cool direction
"Curious as a cat" ?
too curious for my own good?
It's my trouble aspect, so it supposed to have a touch of the negative
Can't mind my own business ?
"Everyones business is my business" ?
 
Curiosity ignores boundaries.
 
@BESW Boundless curiosity?
or.. better yet...
Boundless, incessant, curiosity
 
*sits back down at computer*
*looks at room*
*understands nothing*
 
2:30 PM
Discussing my character in a new Fate Game.
 
Cool.
Oh, trying to phrase aspects. Very cool.
 
Yep
I think it's cool, that the time consuming part of the fate mechanics is story-driven :)
 
Baby is hungry. Be back later.
 
hello all
Mounted combat is the best thing ever in D&Dnext
 
2:38 PM
*Terrible shrieks and pleading in the background.*
:D
Hi !
 
[waves distractedly]
 
I'm making sure my Doctor Who answer will pass muster with the pedants.
 
seriously, 60 feet movement speed, Irregardless of your own speed, ability to use a lance (1 handed 1d12 pierce) and the other hand free for a shield
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith Speaking of pedants, I feel compelled to mention that "irregardless" is the bastard child of "irrespective" and "regardless." Although its meaning is clear, careful users of English often prefer the less ungainly "regardless."
 
2:45 PM
I like using the word "Rediculous" as it upsets people who are pedants. It is obviously a combination of "Ridiculous" and "Re - " so.. it's ridiculous again or repeatedly
IE: "This conversation is rediculous "
Lets see what good old urban dictionary says about this word.
Urban Dictionary - Rediculous ... LoL: "To diculous again"
 
@besw yes my wife chides me for using the word
 
3:02 PM
DalekThay has been doing a hilarious set of Eighth Doctor 'shops.
 
that's great
 
Hah.
 
 
3:04 PM
Okay, I'm done.
 
@BESW Best one.
So...
What Cybermen are these?
Then again, what where the Cybermen in Nightmare in Silver?
Is the Cyberlegion the new Cybermen thing?
 
@RedRiderX yikes, that's an impressive cast list of baddies right there. How do all those fit into an hour (or hour and a half) with a regen...dang
 
@RedRiderX The one behind him looks like one of those "forest of sapient trees" people in the shape of a Cybus Cyberman.
 
@BESW Yeah, I saw that too.
Very strange.
I might also be the slime from a Silent.
Maybe.
 
@BESW ooh I would welcome a trip back there
 
3:14 PM
@waxeagle I have a feeling that festival of horrors will lead to the Doctor doing something that will force him to regenerate; sort of like how Eccleston went out.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Seems like a good option for Smith.
 
@waxeagle I'm guessing a lot of them will be background fodder, somewhere between the Drahvins' reappearance and the Special Weapons Dalek's.
 
Those soldiers in the background look somewhat similar to the Gallifreyan units we saw in the 50th...
Still! Weeping Angels, Daleks, Cybermen, Silence, a regeneration to Capaldi and the yummy Clara... I'm excited!
 
It wasn't until the 50th that I felt like I cared about Clara at all.
Moffat dropped the ball big-time in introducing her, because he carefully trained us not to get attached to her.
 
3:17 PM
@BESW It made her a companion worth keeping past Matt's regen
 
@BESW Oh, really? I think she's adorable! I love her. Donna took a bit for me to like, but then I started to really enjoy her presence.
 
In the 50th, she's his governess. That works.
@ProfessorLokiCaprion I liked her! Then she died. Then I liked the next version of her. She died, too.
After that, I'd been trained not to get attached to Claras.
 
I dither between rose and Donna as fave new who companion but donna always wins out for lack of romantic subplot
also
doctordonna
 
Yay, for Doctordonna!
@JoshuaAslanSmith This is why I'm so happy for Capaldi; less chance of romantic subplots.
 
Seriously one of the least who things about new who is the romance subplots w/companions or just flirtyness overall in episdoes
 
3:19 PM
It was okay with Tennant and Rose, but then Martha's jealousy of Rose, then Amy having a thing for the Doctor... we need to give the tension a rest.
 
[wry] I disagree with several of the recent statements re: companions.
But it's largely personal preference, so meh.
Rose was badly mishandled post-Bad Wolf, and increasingly badly every time she reappeared after S2. Prior to that she was a compelling companion: seriously flawed and quite nasty, but with strong positive traits balancing the character and making her relatable.
In S2 she got smug and self-centered, fancying herself a mini-Doctor. It could've been an interesting arc if it had felt like it was on purpose, or if it had gone anywhere, but instead she just became insufferable.
After S2 she was flat and boring. The series promised us she was gone for good, and Rose as we knew her was. What came back, and back, (and back) despite repeated assurances that she couldn't, was Generic Strong Independent Sassy Sexy Girl With Gun.
 
@BESW I will say the Rose in the 50th was very different from what we've seen since S1.
 
@waxeagle Because it wasn't Rose. I liked that they brought in Billie Piper to represent S1 because Eccleston wouldn't join.
 
@BESW good point
 
And whether the Moment is Bad Wolf, or if it just foresaw Bad Wolf and took that form, it was clever and awesome.
Personally, I think the Moment didn't "develop" a conscience. I think the Moment acquired a conscience in the form of the Bad Wolf.
The Bad Wolf is, in every way that matters, the Moment, and that's what allows the LGTW retcon.
(This is supported by the way Nine and Ten so casually punctured the LGTW with their TARDISes when the Moment needed them to. If the Moment is the Bad Wolf and the Bad Wolf is the fusion of Rose with the heart of the TARDIS...)
 
3:31 PM
@BESW that actually makes a ton of sense
was intriguing thoughts on the 50th
 
@BESW And every other Doctor, actually.
 
@BESW My wife was just saying the same thing; the Moment was (or was created by) Bad Wolf, just so 9 wouldn't use it.
@RedRiderX My favourite scene!!!
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion It's very rad.
 
I'm half hoping they'll bring the Bad Wolf back for the Christmas special to explain how he overcomes the twelve regeneration limit.
I'd be even less hopeful, but I didn't even dare hope they'd BRING BACK GALLIFREY for the 50th, and it happened.
Also, the whole Queen Victoria plot was basically an excuse to wrap up an ongoing joke from the RTD era. If Moffat's got that kind of thing on his mind, wrapping up the Bad Wolf can't be too far off course.
 
@BESW I think the points you made about it being played out and the Doctor needing the Time Lords to play against were salient. And as the article I just linked points out, it sort of respresents a healing and bonding between old Who and New.
 
3:40 PM
I think the article misses something pretty major.
A Day of the Doctor with Eccleston wouldn't have had a John Hurt.
Eccleston would've been the guy sitting there with the Big Red Button.
 
@BESW That would make the plot line pretty significantly different
 
@waxeagle Would it?
 
@RedRiderX the "this wasn't the Doctor" thing would have to have changed I think
 
@waxeagle Oh, certainly.
 
@waxeagle Yeah I guess so.
 
3:43 PM
But that wasn't even a thing until the last episode of the series before the 50th.
 
@BESW True.
 
(At which point the absence of Eccleston was already painfully obvious to the producers.)
Eccleston's absence gave Moffat the opportunity to do what he loves most: force us to look at everything which has gone before in light of something he added.
 
@BESW lol that is a bit of an oddity.
 
If Eccleston had been available and willing, he would've done it anyway, but differently.
Of course, I've got my own personal "if I had my way" version.
It involves cutting out most of the Victoria/Zygon plot and instead starting the story with ten to fifteen minutes of Eight and Romana in the Last Great Time War.
 
@BESW Oh instead of bringing in Old Who with War, bring it in with a flashback to 8.
 
3:48 PM
The LGTW isn't fought with lasers, but with retcons, and the Daleks are winning. History is being ripped apart by paradox and the High Council wants to open the Omega Vault to battle it. Only Eight and Madame President Romana stand against it, arguing that to do so would be to become like the Daleks.
 
@BESW What if they were time lazers?
 
@RedRiderX Wheel of Time did it.
The Council goes behind the President's back and revives Rassilon, whose first act is to use the Power Glove (it's so rad!) to disintegrate Romana, executing her for treason against his Gallifrey by refusing to protect it at any cost.
As Rassilon orders the contents of the Omega Vault be put into use, Eight grabs the Moment from the Vault and runs.
 
I like your version better already. Which is saying something, because I liked the special a lot.
 
@BESW Definite happiness at a reference to "The Wizard".
 
Oh have 8 be the war doctor!
 
3:52 PM
@RedRiderX Two options.
 
@RedRiderX THat would have been sad. 8 started as such a cheerful and friendly fellow.
 
@BESW Oh right it could be 8 or 9.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Seeing Night of the Doctor, there was a very similar end for him there.
 
Dancing in the park, kissing uninteresting and badly cast love interests. He was sweet.
 
First: Rasillon strikes the Doctor down as he escapes, and Eight regenerates into Nine--he is the War Doctor, struck down by his own god and the very first choice before him is whether to save the universe by destroying his own people and the Daleks.
 
@RedRiderX or 8.5 like they did in the special. If 8 doesn't have the guts to pull the trigger.
 
3:53 PM
@BESW Yes, well, fanfic is often the morning-after cure to what ails the main continuity. :)
 
Second: Eight escapes with the Moment, and is the War Doctor. After using the Moment he voluntarily regenerates for the first time, desperate to shed the body that pushed the button.
Either way, the rest of the story is pretty solid and doesn't need changing. Less Victoria and Zygons, more LGTW.
This fixes one of the primary weakness of the 50th: there is no sense that the Time Lords need killin'.
 
@BESW Wait, is there still the not actually killing Gallifrey?
 
The rabid omnicidal plans of Rasillon, which Ten said were the reason he had to Blow It All Up--we don't ever hear them mentioned.
@RedRiderX yeah, but nobody remembers it. Remember?
 
Sure.
 
@BESW Agreed. That was my main beef with it, too. They built them up to be insanely myopic self-centered baddies in The End Of Time, then ignored it.
Possibly because Moffat refuses to let anything RTD did stand.
 
3:57 PM
@BESW Well the war room says that "the council has failed" at one point.
But yeah there is nothing behind it.
 
I understand not being able to get James Bond back to play the part, but Moffat dropped the ball completely.
 
Absolutely. (I think we're supposed to assume that the war scenes happen before the scenes from "End of Time", but it needed tighter editing.)
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Except for the fact that the 50th spent an AMAZING amount of time on a mostly-pointless side plot about Queen Victoria that existed only to explain away one of RTD's running gags.
 
It's pure Moffat. When he took over he eliminated UNIT, Torchwood, all past companions, and built an entirely new mythology.
 

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