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A: Internal drive turns read only

Benji over_9000 'benchonaut'this is a sign for either filesystem fault hardware damage/disconnects undervoltage your system runs out of memory ext4 is relatively "robust" against most things , the only thing that is likely to break is the journal check the output of dmesg and/or journalctl on your console for errors s...

Tak
Tak
Thanks for your reply. I've updated my question where if I even tried remounting the drive with an admin user it fails as shown in the question. I've run dmesg journalctl and S.M.A.R.T and placed the results in this link dropbox.com/sh/bgw1rkbhj1vqrn0/AABGVaqh-LMoc8oAyVwqLwyIa?dl=‌​0 I'd appreciate it if you could check it out?
your mount comand should be "mount /dev/sdaN" where N is partition number , your drive / sata link gets stuck and bus reset times out , is this a virtual box ? then change from sata to ide link . also smartctl might fail when this is a usb disk
Tak
Tak
No it’s not a virtual box, and not a USB disk. Did you get the chance to check the link having the outputs of the commands you asked me?
i did look through your dmesg &screenshots .. it might be you have bad sectors or somehthing about the sata controller is wrong
@Tak see the updated answer, maybe try to hear on the disk if there is some clicking or high frequent noise, you might try a self test/see smart values with gnome-disks easily
Tak
Tak
I ran gnome-disks and here is the result dropbox.com/s/cjpo7c0ukaqbd3l/gnome-disks.png?dl=0. do you think it is a hardware issue with the disk or something from the OS?
12:40
( that is the start screen) , select the 8TB and either press S (seems standard hotkey for smart ) , or select it in the menu ( th three bars on top)
Tak
Tak
First, Thanks for trying to help me, I really appreciate it
Here I choose the 8TB on the gnome-disks
is your native language differet than english ?
Tak
Tak
Shall I press "Start Self-test"? when I press on it gives 3 options Short, Extended or Conveyance
Tak
Tak
It is English
12:43
but this takes long
veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerry long
Tak
Tak
Oh okay
so what would you suggest me to do?
( at least the extended one that would check all blocks, but you could do that with badblocks )
at least your pending/uncorrectable/reallocated sectors seem to be ok
Tak
Tak
Is that disk old? I see it has been powered on for more than 2 years?
( see head flying hours, thats the real use time )
( and more or less yes, it is 2 years )
if it is NOT a seagate , then you should be concerned about the ECC sector rate
Tak
Tak
Oh okay, this is strange as I sent it the machine to the supplier who said they replaced the disk but I feel they didn't
12:46
and the SEEK error rate is EXTREMELY high for a non-seagate hard disk , even for them
seek error comes from "disk misses right track" , e.g. due to vibrations or buld quality
do you have vital data stored on the disk ?
Tak
Tak
So would you suggest me buying a new 8TB seagate drive and copy the data over to it?
Tak
Tak
disk*
there is a little problem
Tak
Tak
Yes, the data is important
12:48
you might have this disconnection Fckup during copying
Tak
Tak
oh okay
i fear the timeouts will come back and interrupt a normal copy/rsync ( thats what usually happens and you should avoid every operation that is unneccesary on that disk from now on )
Tak
Tak
so this means you are pretty sure it's a disk hardware related problem, right?
And it seems that the supplier didn't replace the drive 1 month ago, right?
disk or sata controller
the ssd is connected to the same controller ?
Tak
Tak
I am not sure, I can check
12:51
don't bother
recommendation: grab a mainboard /external enclosure which works FOR SURE
create a disk image with dd_rhelp ( reads from both sides of disk until it cannot read any more secotrs )
use testdisk on that diskimage and copy to secondary device
i know , expansive or "not easy"( you need minimum 2x8TB more if the disk is full )
Tak
Tak
according to the supplier they checked the harddrive on another machine and it's working fine.I really don't know what they did or even if they did anything actually.
if a secondary controller/mainboard lets you read without trouble , you might run testdisk directly on /dev/sda or something
Tak
Tak
I think I have an external disk reader which is connected using USB
it has no sector errors would be the "proper" description
yeah , be sure to go for usb3 , with 20M/s(usb2) it will waste your life
Tak
Tak
Okay
And I will probably buy a new 8TB seagate disk
any recommendations on which model I should get?
I see so many models
@Benjiover_9000'benchonaut' You can ping me with my username here when you add anything to the chat so I can get notified and check it.
13:32
@Tak
basically you should only beware of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording / helium drive
and if you don't actually do server/surveillance 24/7 actions your should be also okay with barracuda compute or similar devices, pro users might look into skyhawk/ironwolf/exos range
13:47
Wow dude, big up for using blender so excessively ;)
Tak
Tak
I can buy skyhawk/ironwolf/exos any of them is better than the other?
Thanks man, I used to use blender a lot, and I love it :)
@Benjiover_9000'benchonaut' New to linux though, so I appreciate your help, you are always welcome to let me know if anything related to blender and I can see if I can help :)
I will send the supplier and ask them to send a new drive since this is not new, right?
14:15
backup first (!)
Tak
Tak
14:42
@Benjiover_9000'benchonaut' Yes, I will backup the data to a mounted NAS storage. Then unplug the drive and mount the new one. Any steps needed to mount the new one? if you could send me a link with steps?

Also which one I shall buy skyhawk/ironwolf/exos?
Tak
Tak
15:21
@Benjiover_9000'benchonaut' You can ping me when you post something :)
ironwolf (pro) , since they have guarateed CMR (Conventional Magnetic Recording)
Tak
Tak
And could you advise me with what the mount command to put on fstab?
for the dd_rhelp part:

* http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/
* https://github.com/vaab/dd_rhelp
* http://www.debianadmin.com/recover-data-from-a-damaged-hard-disk-using-dd_rhelp.html
* http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html

for the testdisk part:
* https://www.tecmint.com/recover-deleted-files-using-testdisk-in-linux/
@Tak you want it to be mounted at boot time ?
Tak
Tak
Yes
well depending on how you format it ( i will do ext4 example , since it's just stable , sometimes even more than xfs )

UUID=C4F4-C4F3 /opt/mountpoint ext4 errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 0

you find the symlink to your partition in /dev/disk/by-uuid , the filename is the UUID
Tak
Tak
15:34
So no need to partition it?
use gnome-disks ( the gear button below or in the menu ) , there is a "format disk" option , select GPT ( MBR is only useful until 2tb ) , alternative use sfdisk
basically there is no "MUST" for partiioning , but since most scripts are aligned to that you should go for that , also during a possible recovery it helps sometimes , because mostly partitions automatically are aligned to sector boundaries and a backed up partition table might come in handy when your first sectors fail ( this would be a superblock place without partition table )
Tak
Tak
Okay, shall I try these mounting options on this disk before buying a new one? or you are pretty sure this disk is faulty?
well , you shall try another controller , but since there is still data on it : don't , you might mount it read only , but as i said , the disconnects may return
Tak
Tak
What do you mean by "another controller"?
Also you are pretty sure it's not an OS issue, right?
and if u don't wanna bite ur own butt ("why didn't i..." ,"remodeling this and that file takes 2 weeks") , MAKE AN IMAGE BEFORE ( there are no larger letters than uppercase )
Tak
Tak
15:46
HAHAHA OKAY
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What do you mean by "another controller"?

Also you are pretty sure it's not an OS issue, right? >>

another interface for the hard disk like usb adapter
Tak
Tak
an image of this disk only or the system disk as well?
Tak
Tak
okay, I will
when your system is on ssd: back it up to nas as well
i prefer restic,duplicity is damn slow
Tak
Tak
15:51
Okay, I used to use Clonezilla or macrium reflect, but they are kinda slow
but I can try restic
also you are pretty sure it's not an OS issue, right?
16:09
main problem is : ext4 is very linux specific and i guess you won't have much success with BSD or other systems , windows might have better controller drivers , but lacks ext4 ( you could make an image at least )
16:56
@Tak I've updated the answer ,maybe you could mark it as solved
( clonezilla is for full disk images )
 
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Tak
Tak
18:11
@Benjiover_9000'benchonaut'I will check that in the next couple of days and let you know how it goes, and mark it as solved thank you so much
As I left the machine now and will have access to it next week, but I will keep you updated, I upvoted your answer though :)

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