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A: Elements of order $p^8$ in direct sum

Chris CusterCyclic groups have a unique subgroup of every order dividing the order of the group. The cyclic groups, $\Bbb Z_{p^9}$ and $\Bbb Z_{p^{11}}$, in this case, each have $\varphi(p^8)=p^8-p^7$ generators for the subgroup of order $p^8$. We get $p^{15}p^8(p^8-p^7)+p^{15}(p^8-p^7)p^7=p^{15}(p^{16}...

How are you getting the $2p^{15}p^8$ part?
Please see my edit.
I mean, what specifically do you mean by "taking products"? I understand the part about the totient function, but where are you coming up with the expression $p^{15}p^8(p^8-p^7)+p^{15}(p^8-p^7)p^7$? Does this have to do with generators for $\mathbb{Z}_{p^3}$ etc.?
Yeah. I guess you are right, I didn't explain it that lucidly. I just went for the correct answer. Let me try to clarify. I don't need to restrict myself to generators of $\Bbb Z_3,\Bbb Z_5$ and $\Bbb Z_7$, because all of their elements have order dividing $p^8$. So that explains the factor of $p^3p^5p^7=p^{15}$. Now I'm thinking in terms of the lcm property that you mentioned. Do you see where I'm going with this? To get elements of order $p^8$ I look in the last two factors: $\Bbb Z_{p^9}$ and $\Bbb Z_{p^{11}}$. The other factors aren't big enough to have elements of order $p^8$.
Sorry. There were some typos above. I left some $p$'s out. Anyway, both $\Bbb Z_{p^9}$ and $\Bbb Z_{p^{11}}$ have $\varphi(p^8)$ elements of order $p^8$. Are you with me?
Okay, I see the factor of $p^{15}$ now, so where do we get the sum from?
Hi, so are we getting the sum because we can pick a generator from $\mathbb{Z}_9$ or $\mathbb{Z}_11$?
04:59
Ok. Here we go. The sum arises because I split it into two parts.
Yes. That's right.
Okay, so my last question is, on each term, where does the factor of $p^8$ (on the first term) and $p^7$ (on the second term) come from?
Do you understand the first term of the sum?
I understand p^{15}(p^8-p^7), but I'm not quite sure about the extra p^8. Namely, how is it instead p^{15}p^8(p^8-p^7)?
Good. For each choice of a generator (element of order p^8) in Z_p^9, I can pair it with anything from the other factors having order dividing p^8.
The p^8 appears because Z_p^{11} has p^8 elements of order dividing p^8.
Remember the lcm property.
And the p^7 appears because Z_p^{9} has p^7 elements of order dividing p^8?
05:08
No. Hold on. This is perhaps the trickiest part. And like I said I just went for it. Here it is:
So far I only took generators for the subgroup of order p^8 in Z_p^9. But, there are still the other elements of that subgroup, each having order dividing p^8.
Ok, I am following
How many are there? Well, p^8-(p^8-p^7)=p^7.
And shame on me for leaving that out.
Ah ok, that makes sense now. And no worries, I appreciate you explaining it. Maybe you could add that last part in to your answer about the p^7 so others can see?
Ok. Nice job.
Have a nice day!
05:15
You too.

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