Vyxal

lyxal

00:45

Some know more than others though

user

y-axis is amount of knowledge. First bar is Jon Skeet, second bar is most knowledgeable non-Jon-Skeet human, third bar is you, third bar is most ignorant human

See how you know about as much as the most knowledgeable human (who isn't Jon Skeet)? :P

(and before a pedant calls me out for the lack of units, Jon Skeet's knowledge is infinite, so his bar is infinite whatever units and all the other bars are basically 0)

lyxal

Well I guess you did prove your point by saying that there's two second bars :p

user

Edited just in time :P

lyxal

Dang it I thought I'd managed to edit lock that :p

user

Wait, now it says the third bar twice

lyxal

00:51

Heh heh idiot :p

user

:(

No one is allowed to insult me except me

lyxal

@user my point was more that some people with more experience with things obviously know more about said things than someone who doesn't have experience with those things

user

user has removed lyxal from the list of this room's owners

lyxal

Like I don't really know that much about how scala links files and how it manages to find resources in the resources file. Hell, I don't even know if my js fix works. But I know that you have more of a chance of knowing because you have more experience

user

@lyxal Well duh, that's what having experience means

lyxal

00:52

@user you're not feeds, idiot :p

user

@lyxal lmao I've never made a cross-platform Scala project before, I have no idea how this works

I just saw that the native Dictionary was in a sussy place and moved it to the right place

Vyxal Bot

@user ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ

user

Fork you

lyxal

@user that's more than I knew

user

I'm pretty sure you know that source files go in <platform>/src/main/scala, but if you really want to continue pretending you don't know anything, I can go along with that :P

Anyway, got an essay to submit by midnight that I've barely started on and the 4 coffees I drank aren't helping me focus so I'm going to sign out o/

lyxal

00:56

o/

@user you're talking to the man who tried using golang instead of scala because it had a simpler project directory structure

And the same man who put Directory Guide (for people who aren't the best at mentally parsing nested folders): in the readme

@user and no, I didn't know it needed to go in that folder. Otherwise I wouldn't have put it in the wrong spot :p

Seggan

@user the problem is that they are recursive

if you map one to another, the new one depends on the old one

so you do need a gc

emanresu A

Not necessarily

You can completely clone the list

Seggan

01:32

and how would that help? thats eager eval, or you have to add cleanup code to the lazylist

emanresu A

01:49

True

user

@Seggan Ah, I didn't think about laziness

lyxal

@user does that mean it embeds scalatest for every project?

user

I think those are the resources for ScalaTest docs?

lyxal

but it does that for every project?

user

I have no idea

Gonna have to do some digging later

tybocopperkettle

01:55

@emanresuA We have more Makefile problems...

It won't build on my Linux VM

emanresu A

uname -m?

lyxal

Quick question: is F the same as set difference?

or is that <-> (imagine that's the unicode character)

user

F seems to be it

tybocopperkettle

@emanresuA x86_64

It's working for you, right?

emanresu A

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yes

gtg now

lyxal

02:01

@user So then why does Þ∞‹ Þ∞ F 10Ẏ return #[0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9#]? It should just be #[0#]

because #[0|1|2|3|4|...#] - #[1|2|3|4|5|...#] = #[0#], right?

user

Yeahhh

Except these are infinite lists

lyxal

is that a bug or is my set math wrong?

user

So maybe it just doesn't bother searching?

lyxal

looks like it

0 100 r 1 100 r F gives #[0#] as expected

user

Perhaps we should have a way to say that a lazylist is monotonic?

So it knows to stop searching at some point?

lyxal

02:03

it should work with non-monotonic lists

user

It can't work if rhs is a non-monotonic infinite lazylist

lyxal

It could but it'd just hang on something not in lhs

Seggan

03:03

but how can you tell a list will stay monotonic after transformation?

user

You can't, but you do know that some transformations will preserve monotonicity (is that a thing?)

e.g. adding a single integer to a list

Too hard to keep track of, though :(

Seggan

^ thats my point

Unrelated String

04:33

shouldn't be that hard to keep track of

emanresu A

04:56

There's a way, but it's O(n^2)

Wait nvm that doesn't work

user

05:19

:(

I got an O(1) way to do it, except the constant is infinity :P

Unrelated String

05:31

:P

tybocopperkettle

@emanresuA I'm switching GMP over to a dynamic library so we don't have to do all this stupid cross-copmiling stuff, got it working on Linux which is a relief, but getting to work on Mac is going to be very painful

emanresu A

05:46

Okay (also argh)

lyxal

@emanresuA no no that's Jyxal (the non js edition) you're thinking of

That's written in java

user

True story: the parameter for the main method used to be called arghs, because writing the main method caused programmers to emit several "argh"s. Over time, the "h" was dropped, making it "args." Nowadays, people think that it's a shortening of "arguments," a very plausible but ultimately wrong explanation

tybocopperkettle

06:40

@emanresuA still writes String[] argh in Java

lyxal

in The Sand Trap, 2 days ago, by emanresu A

I'm doing a java course too and argh (specifically public static void main(string[] argh))

I know

tybocopperkettle

Oh

lyxal

:p

That's why I mentioned it :p

tybocopperkettle

Has he told you about our teacher? He gave me like 50/100 or something for doing "more than he asked for"

emanresu A

I've submitted ReverseString.java to three separate assignments.

user

06:46

@tybocopperkettle Did you inadvertently break stuff while trying to do more than he asked for, or was your teacher just being a jerk?

My CS teachers in high school didn't really care much about my work as long as it worked

tybocopperkettle

@user Being a jerk

user

I've managed to submit a ridiculously over-engineered project to do some basic string manipulation stuff (think packages nested 4 levels deep, two dozen different classes) without the teacher batting an eye

@tybocopperkettle rip

tybocopperkettle

@user Lol nice

Unrelated String

07:04

hype

lyxal

08:58

Duckduckgo's new vyxal chat simulator

lyxal

10:18

oh huh

as predicted, my javascript dictionary thing is completely broken

hard to say I'm surprised

feels like it's only natural

[error] 7 |@JSExportTopLevel("Dictionary")
[error]   |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[error]   |You may only export public and protected objects

:thonk:

[error] vyxal.Dictionary$dictionary$ needs to be imported from module 'dictionary.js' but module support is disabled

I think I need some weezer to deal with this

oh boy build file errors

those sure are fun

best part is the build errors are due to an issue with the build settings provided by scala.js

scalaJSLinkerConfig ~= { _.withModuleKind(ModuleKind.CommonJSModule) }
                         ^
[error] Type error in expression

oh

turns out I placed the settings in the wrong place

man that's not clear

I had placed it before:

  .nativeSettings(
    // Scala Native-specific settings
    nativeConfig ~= {
      _.withEmbedResources(true)
    },
  )

not realising .nativeSettings was method chaining from a larger chain of methods

ah dang

  @JSImport("dictionary.js", "dictionary")

node no like that

at least not in the browser

lyxal

10:57

'use strict';
import * as $i_dictionary$002ejs from "dictionary.js";

thanks scala.js

thanks for causing a syntax error

Uncaught SyntaxError: import declarations may only appear at top level of a module

why am I even making the dictionary objects anyway?

I forgor what the reason was

oh yeah right the dictionary not working in js

Ginger

just... fetch() it from the repo

do the easy thing

lyxal

you seem to not understand the problem

the problem isn't that it can't find the resource

it knows right where it is

it's when you create a new Context() object

and it tries to read from a non-existent text file in the scala

things are broken on a more fundamental level than just "can't find the file"

Ginger

wow

good luck with that! :p

!!/status

Vyxal Bot

@Ginger I am doing somebody's spaghet.

Ginger

SPAGHET

lyxal

11:11

export const dictionary

> Uncaught SyntaxError: export declarations may only appear at top level of a module

It's right there at the top of the file

how much more do you want??

> Uncaught SyntaxError: import declarations may only appear at top level of a module

import * as $i_dictionary$002ejs from "dictionary.js";
'use strict';
var $linkingInfo = Object.freeze({
  "esVersion": 6,
  "assumingES6": true,
  "productionMode": false,
  "linkerVersion": "1.13.0",
  "fileLevelThis": this

it's also right there at the top ???

export const dictionary = {short:"vyxal|fizz|buzz|hello|Hello|world

IT'S THE ONLY THING IN THE ENTIRE FILE

Uncaught SyntaxError: export declarations may only appear at top level of a module

THERE IS ONLY ONE EXPORT IN THE ENTIRE FRICKING FILE

(no, it's not because the dictionary isn't closed - the dictionary is several hundred kb. It is not fitting in a single chat message)

lyxal

11:31

oh

it was because vyxal.js and main.js weren't being included as modules in the pages code

math scat

12:15

TIL scipy has a convolve function

it even uses fft :/

Ginger

@lyxal lmao

math scat

F

lyxal

12:43

So here's where I'm at

The dictionary.js file is imported by the scala

this is done by:

  @js.native
  @JSImport("./dictionary.js", "dictionary")

and so because it's imported, anything that touches the generated js needs to be a module

so now there's three js files:

- main.js
- vyxal.js
- vyxalHelper.js

vyxal.js imports vyxalHelper.js and sets window.Vyxal to the imported thing

and main.js can access that just fine

The problem is that the web worker that runs the code doesn't like any of this

math scat

12:57

hmm

Can you let the dictionary be a text file?

lyxal

javascript no text file reading

math scat

good lord what is this sorcery

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal created branch dictionary-object in Vyxal/Vyxal

lyxal

that's an attempt with just having the dictionary as a big juicy file

problem is that it takes a really long time to compile

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/actions/runs/4405183622/jobs/7715746302

math scat

And what about the webworker being able to access the dictionary via github?

lyxal

13:03

that's not the problem

the problem is that once you create a blank context, it tries to read the dictionaries, but fails

because it hasn't had the Globals object that has the dictionaries already set

math scat

oh, cool

Vyxal Bot

18:09

dependabot[bot] created branch dependabot/pip/msgpack-1.0.5 in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

dependabot[bot] opened pull request #38 (Bump msgpack from 1.0.4 to 1.0.5) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

dependabot[bot] opened pull request #39 (Bump platformdirs from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

dependabot[bot] created branch dependabot/pip/platformdirs-3.1.1 in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

user

18:54

Wow, Scala and JS really do not like to play with each other

I'm sorry you had to go through that lyxal

What's up with the other dictionaries-object branch?

Vyxal Bot

19:15

GingerIndustries approved #38 (Bump msgpack from 1.0.4 to 1.0.5)

GingerIndustries merged pull request #38 (Bump msgpack from 1.0.4 to 1.0.5) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

GingerIndustries deleted branch dependabot/pip/msgpack-1.0.5 in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

Vyxal Bot

20:15

GingerIndustries approved #39 (Bump platformdirs from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1)

GingerIndustries merged pull request #39 (Bump platformdirs from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

dependabot[bot] deleted branch dependabot/pip/platformdirs-3.1.1 in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

emanresu A

@VyxalBot How did it achieve this.

Ginger

magic

math scat

20:39

v2 feature

Seggan

@user ~~unlike kotlin and js~~

@VyxalBot ooh yall using msgpack gg

lyxal

21:34

@user one is just the words placed in a really large file, the other is a weird system of js and imports and other cursed shit

The big file takes several minutes to compile, and the js complains about import errors

Respectively of course

Seggan

why dont you make it a fetachable resource

as in do the scala equivalent of fetch("/dictionaryLong.txt").then(d => ...)

if scala multiplatform is as good as kotlin, it should be easy to make platform specific code

lyxal

But the js won't be able to read text files though, right?

Seggan

> fetch("/dictionaryLong.txt").then(d => ...)

lyxal

Because if you try to get a resource file, it'll just error like it currently does without any changes wouldn't it?

Seggan

its a fetch

@lyxal no

why would it

this is a separate file stored on the web server

this aint any fancy js file that you need to import

its just a text file, stored like ur index.html or style.css

naffetS

21:49

I got access to Github Blocks

Seggan

whats that

naffetS

Mar 7 at 21:56, by lyxal

https://github.com/githubnext/blocks/

lyxal

@Seggan I don't know if scala js lets you do that nicely

Seggan

why dont you use a lib

or just write some inline js code

lyxal

I don't think there's such thing as inline js code

naffetS

21:57

> fetch("/dictionaryLong.txt").then(d => ...)

What's wrong with that?

lyxal

Where will I write that.

naffetS

My code

Nvm i guess you guys are talking something esle?

lyxal

Scala js itself is already a sort of library

Anything you want turned into JavaScript needs to compile as scala first

And then it creates a transpiled version of that scala

Seggan

@lyxal ... thats stupid

itd be really easy

koltin has the js function for inline js code

naffetS

@lyxal Why not?

lyxal

21:59

You ever tried to read a local file with JavaScript?

naffetS

import scala.scalajs.js
js.eval("...")

@lyxal You need the CORS headers set

lyxal

Well if you can figure out something that works, place it in a pr

naffetS

Github pages automatically sets CORS headers

It should already work

Seggan

@lyxal scala-js.github.io/scala-js-dom

scala-js.github.io/scala-js-dom/#dom.Fetch

tada

naffetS

That's adding another package

Why not just use js.eval or something

Seggan

22:01

^

was just suggesting

lyxal

3 mins ago, by lyxal

Well if you can figure out something that works, place it in a pr

Seggan

~~time to be a vyxal 3 contributor~~

naffetS

import scala.scalajs.js
import js.DynamicImplicits._
import js.Dynamic.{global => g}

g.fetch(...)

Seggan

i dont feel like doing scala + setup of scala

naffetS

use a github codespace

I don't understand your problem though because we already have the dictionary.js working

Actually scalajs-dom is already there so we're fine

Tell me what the point of this vyxal.js and vyxalHelper.js is for? Why not have one file?

WHY IS WORKER.JS BEING IMPORTED AS A MODULE

WHY IS VYXAL.JS NOT EVEN ON GIT

lyxal

22:17

@naffetS because one imports the other and sets it as a window property

main.js can't be a module because it relies on globally included stuff for code mirror and popper

So it needs to access the exported modules in vyxal.js through the window

@naffetS I thought it was

Did I forget to push it last night?

Huh, looks like I did

One second

naffetS

setting tons of stuff in window isn't a good practice, and why would you even want it in window?

lyxal

in The Nineteenth Byte, 10 hours ago, by mousetail

Can you add a third module script that exports the members as window attributes, that then can be loaded by the non-module script?

in The Nineteenth Byte, 11 hours ago, by lyxal

<script src="./vyxal.js" type="module"></script>
<script src="./main.js"></script>
<!-- I want to be able to call the stuff in vyxal.js in main.js without having to make it a module -->

naffetS

why not just do import { Vyxal } from "./vyxal.js" or something?

lyxal

In which file?

naffetS

why do you not want to make main.js a module? modules are the future

lyxal

22:22

@naffetS because the moment you do that, it loses the ability to talk to code mirror and popper

5 mins ago, by lyxal

main.js can't be a module because it relies on globally included stuff for code mirror and popper

Well dang looks like I've lost the source code for vyxal.js

Oh found it

How the hell did it get stashed on main

naffetS

So what? don't globally include them, include them in the module

lyxal

@naffetS Okay it's on git now

naffetS

I don't see a reason to keep around the current interpreter anyway though, you can easily test PRs with mine

lyxal

@naffetS but then they need to be imported don't they? And then which properties do you import and even then the web worker script was fricking up the imports

@naffetS this is a problem even with yours

naffetS

You should remove this btw <script defer src="./worker.js" type="module"></script>

What is a problem? I can fix it up, we don't need two interpreters

lyxal

22:28

Creating a new context without any previous dictionary knowledge

naffetS

Yeah they need to be imported, so what? imoprt them

lyxal

@naffetS github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/blob/version-3/shared/src/main/scala/…

naffetS

We already do that with dictionary.js and with setShortDict and setLongDict

Inclued the dictionaries somewhere else outside of the context

lyxal

And how do you pass those around then?

naffetS

actually why not just do this:
def eval(s: String)(using ctx: Context): VAny =
val tempContext = Context(globals = ctx.globals)

lyxal

22:32

Because I want eval to work without needing to take context

So it can be called in other places that don't have context

And even then, that's just a bandaid fix. That pushes the problem down the line until the next time there needs to be a contextless function which calls functions which do require context

And sure you can pass context around, but what if I want to call something like multiply in number helpers in a function where passing in context is overkill

user

23:00

@lyxal Ah ok

I see y'all have a lot of discussion here but I'm going to pretend I didn't see this so I can focus on my exam tomorrow lmao

@naffetS How do we allow that locally?

Do we need to change add something to the HTML?

lyxal

@user 👍

naffetS

23:29

Why not just have Dictionary.scala hardcoded?

@user We can't unless you just set up a server with CORS headers set up

lyxal

23:41

@naffetS because it takes several minutes to compile. And that's a problem for first time compiles on people's systems, for running workflows which don't retain previous compiles and for any time the dictionary decides it needs recompiling

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/tree/dictionary-object

@naffetS Also, apparently a single file is too big for compilation

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/actions/runs/4405183622/jobs/7715746302

[error] Generated bytecode for method 'vyxal.Dictionary$.shortDict' is too large. Size: 79932 bytes. Limit is 64KB

And that was after almost 13 minutes of compiling

naffetS

Bruh

Okay but anyway, we already have JS working so I don't see a reason to mess all this

Just mess with Scala

lyxal

@naffetS it's the js not working that's the issue

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/actions/runs/4394320799/jobs/7695297647

It isn't building the pages

So the thought was "okay import the dictionary.js file"

But turns out that causes a yikes with things not being modules

Hence the js mess

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