Vyxal

lyxal

00:24

@Steffan it's my /srs layout

math scat

08:57

@Steffan great!

Hmm permalink sus

Vyxal Bot

@mathscat ඞඞඞඞඞඞ

math scat

I have to abort the code and click the run button again

vyxal.github.io/#WyIiLCIiLCIiLCI0KiIsIjIiXQ==

lyxal

Must be something wrong with the autorun

math scat

09:15

and smh exponentiation without enough values times out but multiplication doesnt

lyxal

@mathscat well actually it doesn't time out

It errors

Because you're trying to raise something to the power of 0 and spire mustn't like that

But because this is scala js, the error is sent to the console and not the debug box

And it doesn't know to stop execution, so it just keeps going

math scat

@lyxal that isnt very cool

Arent errors problematic for golfing purposes?

lyxal

Well yes

And raising to the power of 0 should return 0 anyway

Because that's current v2 behaviour

Didn't know that wasn't something spire likes

0

A: Sophie Safe primes

Vyxal, 11 bytes ~æ~≬‹½æ'd›æ Try it Online! Explained ~æ~≬‹½æ'd›æ ~æ # keep only from range [1, input] where prime ~≬--- # from that, keep where: ‹½ # (n - 1) / 2 æ # is prime ' # from that, keep where: d› # 2n + 1 æ # is prime

Multi branch filter would be so useful right now

Or not :(

All these cool features I've used today and I've had to ditch them to be golfy

Or could have used

(multi branch filter would still be 10 bytes though so maybe not so much of a loss)

zoomlogo

09:41

the site on vyxal.github.io is slightly hard to use on my phone

the buttons are too big

lyxal

known-issue

Mobile support is planned

@mathscat on second inspection, it looks like it's trying to do exponent with an empty string

That's what's causing the error

lyxal

11:26

me on my way to forget what I was going to work on because I was watching a pizza tower playthrough and then remembering it was sugar trigraphs

oh and word list size

Vyxal Bot

11:40

Lyxal opened pull request #1665 (10k/50k Word Lists for Dictionaries) in Vyxal/Vyxal

Ginger

12:01

!!/status tingly

Vyxal Bot

Bot status: Onwinye
Uptime: 5 days, 17:41:34.526423
Wunnying since: 2023-03-03T18:19:35.820197
Ewwows since stawtup: 2

Ginger

:O

Vyxal Bot

13:04

Lyxal created branch implement-sugar-trigraphs-properly in Vyxal/Vyxal

Lyxal opened pull request #1666 (Add sugar trigraphs for real) in Vyxal/Vyxal

lyxal

Gentlemen and gamers, I present to you: sugar trigraphs

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/blob/implement-sugar-trigraphs-properly/…

I've mentioned them quite a few times before, but now I've actually implemented them

basically, you can use them instead of Unicode

so instead of:

#[1|2|3|4|5#] ƛ1+} Ω5%0=

you can have:

#[1|2|3|4|5#] #.[1+} #.(5%0=

this is different from literate mode in that the sugar trigraphs are normal form exclusive

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal created branch ignore-comments in Vyxal/Vyxal

Lyxal opened pull request #1667 (Actually ignore comments) in Vyxal/Vyxal

Vyxal Bot

13:30

GingerIndustries closed issue #12 (No tags) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

GingerIndustries closed issue #22 (s-s-status UwU) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

GingerIndustries closed issue #28 (Make Vyxal Version a Required Argument of Issues Opened in the Main Repo) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

GingerIndustries closed issue #29 (Improve Good Bot Regex) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

GingerIndustries closed issue #31 (Fake commands) in Vyxal/VyxalBot2

Ginger

cool

parz

‘lo

Ginger

ahoy

remember Rabbit? that programming language I've been working on?

parz

No.

Ginger

guess you weren't there

well I just released an MVP for people to play around with

parz

13:32

I don’t have a good memory because I’m watching the WBC…

but where’s the MVP?

Ginger

one sec

ginger.rto.community/Rabbit-shadow-0.0.1.zip

further discussion in TNB

parz

I’ll probably do it later.

Ginger

fair enough

parz

Too busy watching Cuba sell to Italy.

Ginger

huh?

parz

13:35

world baseball classic

Ginger

hm

Vyxal Bot

14:07

Steffan153 enqueued pull request #1667 (Actually ignore comments) in Vyxal/Vyxal

Steffan153 approved #1667 (Actually ignore comments)

Steffan153 approved #1665 (10k/50k Word Lists for Dictionaries)

Steffan153 approved #1666 (Add sugar trigraphs for real)

Lyxal deleted branch gh-readonly-queue/version-3/pr-1667-ff1b3f687a5fe6ceb34d55f2ee0c3029a62cee66 in Vyxal/Vyxal

Steffan153 merged pull request #1667 (Actually ignore comments) in Vyxal/Vyxal

Steffan153 deleted branch ignore-comments in Vyxal/Vyxal

user

14:54

@lyxal you know what instead of passing a print fn to globals we can just redirect stdin snd stderr for the jd jnterpreter

math scat

15:20

@lyxal abusing sugar trigraphs for ascii only challenges:

strange

according to the gist, "N NE E SE S SW W NW" is 21 bytes compressed in Vyxal, even though the uncompressed string is 19 bytes long.

Shouldn't SSS return the original string if it's shorter than the compressed one?

one min, lemme check

Steffan

15:37

@mathscat It always worked for me, but I was overcomplicating the autorun. Try now

@zoomlogo I haven't optimized for mobile yet

I will tho

math scat

@Steffan yup works

math scat

15:51

@mathscat nvm

I forgor this doesn't change #C

Ginger

@mathscat for a moment I thought #C was some kind of angry emoticon :b

Vyxal Bot

16:14

mathcat4 requested changes on #1665 (10k/50k Word Lists for Dictionaries)

math scat

@Ginger "one-eyed angry goblin with a semi-circular frown"

Ginger

leaked emoji for Unicode 16.0

math scat

16:29

If anyone's interested:

short length:10000
long length:50000
[('Hello, World!', 'Jelly 8', 'Vyxal 8'), ('ugtestslug', 'Jelly 9', 'Vyxal 9'), ('mqpcjwpf', 'Jelly 10', 'Vyxal 10'), ('very big', 'Jelly 7', 'Vyxal 6'), ('caird coinheringaahing', 'Jelly 8', 'Vyxal 8'), ('!!/status', 'Jelly 8', 'Vyxal 7'), ('For discussion about Vyxal. Re', 'Jelly 124', 'Vyxal 98'), ('Fun fake fact: The original bo', 'Jelly 51', 'Vyxal 45'), ('Meta Code Golf Stack Exchange ', 'Jelly 173', 'Vyxal 145'), ('4c1j5b2p0cv4w1x8rx2y39umgw5q85', 'Jelly 42', 'Vyxal 42'), ('N NE E SE S SW W NW', 'Jelly 18', 'Vyxal 21'), ('unpredictably', 'Jelly 5'…

dict stats

math scat

16:51

Wait bug

'N NE E SE S SW W NW', 'Jelly 18', 'Vyxal 21'

That doesn’t seem right

Caddy.py bug?

lesobrod

Hi! Thank you guys, really like Vyxal!
Well what if i need split string at non-obvious char (nor space, comma etc)
e.g. `:`
`:`/ works well, but is it possible save 1-2 bytes?

math scat

Try \:/

Backslash escapes the next character

lesobrod

@mathscat Aha it works! =)

lyxal

22:24

@user how would that look?

user

22:38

Sorry I said stdin but meant stdout

You'd have to do System.setOut and System.setErr

Those are Java methods but will probably work in Scala.js too

lyxal

So would it be set to the function we already pass in?

@mathscat there's a chance that's the one string which didn't probably compress well in jelly so I used the length of the uncompressed

Steffan

22:54

Y'all have ideas for any other useful tabs I could add?

Idk what other kind of utilities

lyxal

23:12

An idioms tab

Element documentation tab

naffetS

Ah

What if we have something that can break down code and tell you what each element is

Also who is going to write these idioms

lyxal

It'd be like a thing that grows over time

Like apl cart but not apl

And it'd just be golfing things we find

And there could be a bot command where you could add an idiom

Like !!/idiom __description__ code

@naffetS that's also a good idea

Ooh a tab where you put the question you're solving

And a tab where you can paste a test case list from a question and it turns it into a nice input format

And a program history tab that shows which programs you've executed in a session

And maybe some kind of notebook thing too

And some form of autogolfer which applies common golfing tricks

Which could also be added with bot commands

naffetS

Vyxal cart

Should we have something where you can like save utility programs?

lyxal

Yeah yeah yeah

naffetS

I often use Vyxal to just do some quick utility task, convert format or something

Or just write some random program

lyxal

23:21

These tabs are gonna be really cool

Oh and an on screen keyboard tab

And a flag list tab

naffetS

Well yeah, of course we have the keyboard

Oh yeah so you can just open a tab instead of adding the h flag temporarily

lyxal

Yeah

@Ginger so do you think tabs are useless now?

naffetS

@lyxal Won't we have a flag for running test cases anyway?

lyxal

We will. I more mean you copy in some awful text format from a challenge and the tab gives you something usable with the flag

naffetS

The test case flag won't do that?

lyxal

23:29

The tab allows you to specify delimiter, extra bits added to the text and that sort of stuff

And it could also turn test cases that have been split into two blocks into i -> o format

E.g the flag might struggle on

4

Q: Guessing on straws

Dedicated to Martin Gardner, taken from his book Background In the old days, the Slavs had a divination method for finding out whether a girl would get married. The girl would clutch six straws in her hand so that the ends would poke out the top and bottom of her fist. Then her friend would join ...

But the tab would allow you to specify regex to extract the different fields

The flag might struggle on

33

Q: Lithp Tranthlator

My friend made a lisp translator the other day, that is to say it took a string and converted s=>th and S=>Th. It was quite long and I thought that it could be golfed. So the task is to make a program/function that takes an input string, translates it in to lisp and outputs the string Test case...

code-golf string

But the tab would allow you to specify that there's a goofy amount of spaces between input and output

The flag might struggle on

14

Q: Imtiaz Germain Primes

Description "Imtiaz Germain primes" is not a technical name in Mathematics, but my weird creation, in the memoir of the famous mathematician Sophie Germain. These primes can be generated by the following process: 1. Take a Safe prime 2. Apply 2p + 1 on it to obtain a composite number 3. Apply 2p ...

code-golf number number-theory primes

But the tab would allow you to say "the output side is a space separated list of numbers"

lyxal

23:55

in The Nineteenth Byte, 3 hours ago, by DLosc

TBH I wonder if having two different, interchangeable escape characters would be a good idea. Escaping backslashes with more backslashes gets unreadable pretty fast, particularly if you have to escape them twice because your string literal is actually a regex.

gosh dang it

just when I thought I could finally make progress on v3

naffetS

In that case, the tab might as well just let you do regex substitution. For example, for /q/258992, you could just input the test cases and then s/N: (\d+), TopLinks: (.+?), BottomLinks: (.+?) +→ (.+)/$1, $2, $3 => $4/g or something.

lyxal

@naffetS I'd be fine with that

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