Steffan153 approved on PR #1260 (Vyxal/Vyxal): "Cool"

chunkybanana approved on PR #1260 (Vyxal/Vyxal): "This looks like it works, it looks really cool, and I can't be bothered testing it."

Steffan153 created branch Vyxal/fix-t-mutating

Steffan153 opened PR #1262 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-t-mutating → Vyxal:main): Fix issue where negative indexing into LazyList appends to itself

Steffan153 created branch Vyxal/fix-floor

Steffan153 opened PR #1263 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-floor → Vyxal:main): Fix floor

Steffan153 created branch Vyxal/fix-untruth-again

Steffan153 opened PR #1264 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-untruth-again → Vyxal:main): Fix untruth

chunkybanana approved on PR #1264 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

cjquines approved on PR #1263 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

cjquines approved on PR #1264 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

cjquines approved on PR #1259 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

chunkybanana approved on PR #1263 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

Steffan153 closed issue #1258 in Vyxal/Vyxal: Floor is broken again for strings without numbers

Steffan153 deleted branch Vyxal/fix-floor

Steffan153 closed issue #1261 in Vyxal/Vyxal: Untruth is broken

Steffan153 merged PR #1264 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-untruth-again → Vyxal:main): Fix untruth

Steffan153 deleted branch Vyxal/fix-untruth-again

Steffan153 closed issue #1242 in Vyxal/Vyxal: Strings are sometimes outputted without quotes in lists

Steffan153 merged PR #1259 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-strings-without-quotes → Vyxal:main): Fix strings without quotes

Steffan153 deleted branch Vyxal/fix-strings-without-quotes

Wow y’all have been busy

@VyxalBot cjquinds i would review it but me no comprende js and i can’t run it because I’m on mobile

@VyxalBot cjquines i guess good tooling would include intelliswnse, a nice keyboard and search (which you’ve just provided), a debugger, a vscode plugin to do everything we do online rn, a package manager

Intellisense, plugin, and package manager are pretty out there but i want to get a debugger working

Would really help people get into code golf

And once they start getting comfortable with golfing instead of sane code they can move on to pornography

(no one explain that last bit to cjquines oranyone else please)

A vscode plug--YESSS

But how would intellisense? I mean like in JS, you know, autocomplete, but there's no autocomplete, everything's one char

Or like autocomplete digraphs?

Vypilot

Ah

Also we should have stuff like on aplgolf, type typable letters that expand to Unicode chars when you press Tab

@Steffan but yeah vyxal doesn’t really need it

@Steffan yeah that’d be huge

No it wouldn't

Only 256 chars

Like github.com/abrudz/lb

I hate golfing on tio because you have to manually copy characters

abrudz.github.io/lb/vyxal

@Steffan nono i meant it’d be a very good thing

So instead of getting out keyboard to do updot A, maybe just do [A][.][Tab]

O

Like q huge convenience

Yeah

I'll have to do that sometime

Adam's thing has it for several langs that you can use on TIO

So like for osabie you just have a little header to click chars

and jelly

Yeah i just don’t like bookmarklets anymore

I have a few in my bookmark bar, and I keep accidentally clicking on them and messing up the page

I'm bound to get rid of them

Brownies for fixing this bug

I’m working on it for v3 :)

@Steffan I’ll try tomorrow, frick LazyLists

google.com/search?q=%22cannot+re-enter+the+tee+iterator%22

Not a common error

It’s hard but def doable

We won’t do anything fancy ig

cjquines created branch Vyxal/vdb

It’s hard making a debugger for a transpiled language

It’ll be easier to do in v3 which’ll have an interpreter

@VyxalBot @cjquines just make it identical to gdb :P

Steffan153 created branch Vyxal/add-unicode-tab-completions

Steffan153 opened PR #1265 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:add-unicode-tab-completions → Vyxal:main): Add tab completions for unicode chars

cgccuser approved on PR #1262 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

cjquines approved on PR #1265 (Vyxal/Vyxal)

So, this just happened. It's rather upsetting to have someone scoop me on an answer I was working on myself, but at the same time, it did show me what the optimal way to do that in Vyxal was.

But after studying Vyxal for a while, I'm feeling pretty disappointed in it.

(And yes, I upvoted Steffan's answer even though it made me mad, because I did learn something from it. Even if what I learned was disappointing.)

I really want to port this answer to a better golfing language than Pyth. Vyxal seemed the most promising option, but that's not saying much. It's really sad that it has no eval in the online version, like Pyth does. Eval is the only way a program like this can be implemented. But still, I'd at least be able to demonstrate the program on replit.com.

But needing empty 2-byte identity lambdas just to get a program to work, instead of crashing from maximum recursion, in a program that is conceptually non-recursive, seems really bad language design.

i feel like that's more of an interpreter design issue

So maybe I just need to implement a golfing language myself. In C++. Would be nice to finally have a golfing language that isn't slow.

@UnrelatedString Well, yeah. But would it really make sense to reimplement Vyxal from scratch following its same language specifications?

Seems to me it'd be better to reexamine all of its design decisions and implement a new language that's better.