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Vyxal Bot
Vyxal Bot
02:48
chunkybanana opened issue #699 in Vyxal/Vyxal: `ḋ` doesn't work on infinite lists
 
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emanresu A
emanresu A
04:38
@AaroneousMiller I've discovered a crack to your vyxal cop but I'm not sure if it counts
It's a command that acts nondeterministically and is undocumentedly so
 
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lyxal
lyxal
07:45
Dang it I forgot to version bump again
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emanresu A
emanresu A
@lyxal Go ahead
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Vyxal Bot
Vyxal Bot
Version 2.8.1
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mathcat
mathcat
12:35
@lyxal are there any pros?
lyxal
lyxal
It's mostly aesthetic, but there is one potential transformer I'm thinking would benefit from this - everything to the start of the line as a lambda
mathcat
mathcat
Didn't understand the transformer you meant
lyxal
lyxal
It doesn't exist yet
mathcat
mathcat
What would it do?
lyxal
lyxal
> everything to the start of the line as a lambda
mathcat
mathcat
12:46
ooh
ok
nice
so -1 byte in most cases
lyxal
lyxal
pretty much
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Q: Output two numbers (Cops' thread)

Wheat Wizard This is the cops' thread to a cops-and-robbers challenge. Click the link to find the robbers' thread. The challenge here is very simple. Create two programs of the same size, in the same language, which output two different natural numbers, \$x\$ and \$y\$. Submit both programs, both numbers ...

number cops-and-robbers busy-beaver
guys I found the new print x without x
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A: Output two numbers (Cops' thread)

lyxalVyxal 2.8.1, online edition, Score: \$big\$, 102 bytes Our two programs are: kḭkḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(kḭ(↵ which is equivalent to: stack.append(4294967296) for i in range(4294967296): for j in range(4294967296): for ...

We gonna fill WW's inbox again!
mathcat
mathcat
13:13
@lyxal just realised Brainf would be an awesome contender
 
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emanresu A
emanresu A
18:46
14 hours ago, by emanresu A
@AaroneousMiller I've discovered a crack to your vyxal cop but I'm not sure if it counts
Aaroneous Miller
Aaroneous Miller
oh, nice. I'm trying to think of stuff with undocumented nondeterminism, and all I can think of are lambdas and for loops, which I can't think of any way to exploit, so you've definitely piqued my interest.
emanresu A
emanresu A
19:03
ṁ on numbers
Discovered by accident while trying to create puzzles
Vyxal Bot
Vyxal Bot
chunkybanana approved on PR #701 (Vyxal/Vyxal)
Vyxal Bot
Vyxal Bot
19:29
chunkybanana merged PR #695 (Vyxal/Vyxal → Tams-Tams/Vyxal) (Tams-Tams:master → Vyxal:main): Add discord link
emanresu A
emanresu A
@user Do you think that PR's ready to merge?
(the infinite list join one)
 
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Aaroneous Miller
Aaroneous Miller
20:30
@emanresuA I can't see any way to exploit this
emanresu A
emanresu A
Point is, redwolf said nondeterminic code counts as a crack
But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Aaroneous Miller
Aaroneous Miller
oic, so you're saying that based on the current rules, it would be considered a crack since it's undocumented and non-deterministic?
emanresu A
emanresu A
I'm not sure whether it is or not
Aaroneous Miller
Aaroneous Miller
20:58
fortunately, my cop specifically rules that out
> As the rules call for deterministic languages, commands involving randomness are not allowed.
emanresu A
emanresu A
True, never mind then

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