Vyxal

lyxal

02:27

Question: Should 09 push 0 9 or 9?

!!/hyperping

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller @Allxy @Ausername @PyGamer0 @emanresuA @exedraj @hyper-neutrino @math @pxeger @user @vyxal ^

hyper-neutrino

0 9

emanresu A

^

Also, 5.4.9 should push 5.4 9

hyper-neutrino

in my personal opinion, the traditional language part should not become a liability for the language

emanresu A

What should 5..9 do?

hyper-neutrino

02:29

no it should push 5.4 0.9

emanresu A

@hyper-neutrino That's what I meant, typo

^^^?

hyper-neutrino

well if it were up to me i'd make that do 5.5 0.9

but that's just cuz that's how jelly works

Aaron Miller

@hyper-neutrino I agree, and on a similar note, I think that 5. should push 5.5 instead of 5.0, since . by itself already does 0.5.

emanresu A

^

hyper-neutrino

oh

well in that case then yeah

emanresu A

02:37

.. pushes .5 x2

Aaron Miller

Essentially, a . without a decimal should use .5 as the decimal, e.g. 69. -> 69.5. Multiple . in a number should start a new decimal each time, e.g. 42.0.6.9 -> 42.0, 0.6, 0.9. Leading 0 in a number should act as a separate number, e.g. 0069 -> 0, 0, 69.

What does y’all thinking about that for the New Number Edge Case Rules™? (NNECR™)

!!/hyperping

Vyxal Bot

@Allxy @Ausername @PyGamer0 @emanresuA @exedraj @hyper-neutrino @lyxal @math @pxeger @user @vyxal ^

lyxal

I think they should be handled in the transpiling section

Aaron Miller

@emanresuA btw, congrats on your new Epic Gamerness

lyxal

Group numbers and decimals as a single token in the lexer and split as needed when turning into python

Aaron Miller

02:42

I agree

emanresu A

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Aaron Miller

@emanresuA how tho?

emanresu A

They food

I agr

lyxal

02:57

You agre 😉

Razetime

vyxal room lookin fly today

feeling motivated to contribute something

lyxal

@Razetime I forgor 💀 what that means

Razetime

oh no 😳

lyxal

@Razetime elements.yaml would like some of your juicy contributions

Razetime

I see.

will pull rn

lyxal

02:59

Very cool

Razetime

03:30

@lyxal ok where the hell is it

oh fb transpiler?

emanresu A

/documents/knowledge/elements.yaml

Razetime

it's not on main branch

ok where's the todo list for this thign

emanresu A

It's on fb transpiler

No list, but try to do it in order

We're up to bitwise and so far

Razetime

i see lowercase consonants without y

at the end

lyxal

The constants were done separately for some reason

Razetime

03:39

it makes sense

lyxal

@Razetime so basically the plan is to document the elements and their test cases first

Razetime

how are we gonna do "eval as JS" in python

lyxal

And then implement the elements based on the info

Razetime

are we gonna call node?

lyxal

@Razetime I think that's more for the online interpreter

Razetime

03:40

how would you do that..

lyxal

Muck around with the flask to return something to tell the page to js eval

emanresu A

@Razetime No

Just do it directly

Razetime

hwo directly smh

it's probably doable idk

lyxal

The api response could contain a flag or smth

Razetime

but sounds icky compared to just nodeing

emanresu A

03:41

On return, if there's a E in the flagbox, sandbox (iframe) eval the code

Razetime

or even better, throw the code in tio.run

lyxal

Js doesn't have an eval function?

Razetime

JS does have an eval function

lyxal

Then use that

Razetime

i just find it better to make the thing part of the vyxal interp rather than just the web version

is all

lyxal

03:46

Ah

I see

That sounds reasonable

Vyxal Bot

razetime forked Vyxal/Vyxal into razetime/Vyxal

Razetime

my old fork had none of the branches grrr

lyxal

Oof

Anyhow, I have something I want to discuss

Once we finish the yaml/get it mostly completed, we should merge fb-transpiler into fresh beginnings again

So that the main fb branch can be up to date a little

But then should the fb transpiler branch be removed and individual forks be used instead for element implementation?

Or should fbt be kept after update merge?

Razetime

lesser separate things to maintain is good

lyxal

So is that for keeping fbt or for forks?

Razetime

04:00

merging fbt withf resh beginnings

lyxal

But after merging

Razetime

ok

for "Remove bth character of a

it is zero indexed, correct?

lyxal

yes

PyGamer0

05:18

......1 pushes 0 0 0 0 0 0.1

lyxal

you mean 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.1

emanresu A

06:13

@PyGamer0 0000001 does thaat

PyGamer0

@lyxal yes

pxeger

06:53

@AaronMiller looks like a good idea

Razetime

07:37

@lyxal what is set register without emptying

lyxal

0

Razetime

?

lyxal

oh

oh you mean what does it do

I thought you meant what is the register initalised as

oh

emanresu A

Isn' ti tjust set regsiter?

lyxal

@Razetime it means set the register

Razetime

07:38

so arity is 1?

lyxal

yes

Razetime

what does "without emptying" mean

lyxal

"without emptying" is dead text from when & emptied the reguster

as in, it would empty it, setting it to 0

because it'd toggle between set/empty

like ><>

and like Keg

but the "without emptying" can be removed

emanresu A

Keg is kinda susuy

lyxal

yes

Vyxal Bot

08:30

razetime opened PR #242 (Vyxal/Vyxal → razetime/Vyxal) (razetime:fb-transpiler → Vyxal:fb-transpiler): Finish adding all functions

Razetime

@lyxal juicy contributions have been achieved

lyxal

@Razetime very pleasing

Many appreciation for your efforts

For they have simplified rewriting very greatly

So once the merge of fbt into fb is complete, our focus will be to allocate elements to be implemented to different people

Some people have already called dibs on some sections

But how the rest are distributed, I have no clue

CMQ: How to eventually distribute elements to implement?

emanresu A

08:56

I already dibsed string digraphs

So I'll do all those

lyxal

1 min ago, by lyxal

Some people have already called dibs on some sections

I'm asking about the currently unallocated elements

emanresu A

We also need to document digraphs

lyxal

Of course

emanresu A

@lyxal Let people do what they choose to, but say it in here first.

That way no one double-implements stuff

lyxal

That could work

emanresu A

08:58

And the checklist

lyxal

I'd like to hear other ideas though just for a full picture of opinions

Razetime

FGITW style

single function per pull request

once it's posted, cross off the checklist

dev isn't super fast so i think that might work

lyxal

That sounds reasonable

Except what if there's accidental duplication?

Like obviously we'd do our best to avoid it

But what if it did happen (as an edge case)

Razetime

then the faster implementation gets in

and if they're equally fast coin flip

lyxal

@Razetime nah use vyxal bot to choose

Razetime

09:09

ah yeah that's fairer

lyxal

!!/run `fork 1``fork 2`"℅

Vyxal Bot

@lyxal fork 1

lyxal

Like that

Razetime

ok

lyxal

Anyhow, I gtg

o/

Razetime

09:10

bye

emanresu A

So we're going to need two reviews per function = ~1000 reviews

Razetime

maybe per primitive then?

idk it doesn't seem too awful if people implement function properly

emanresu A

Just, I'd prefer less than 100 PRs and to finish within this decade...

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11:12

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lyxal

11:23

@SjoerdPennings welcome!

I'm glad to see you here!

user

@emanresuA I think implementing multiple functions at a time would help with that

emanresu A

2 hours ago, by Razetime

single function per pull request

Is wahat I was talkign anoutn

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14:22

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PyGamer0

15:10

@lyxal well let hyper do 1/5 you do 1/5, emanresu do 1/5 aaron do 1/5 and user do 1/5 and maybe leave some for others who want to do

@lyxal you can make it a commonly used constant

also why th are there 18 people in the organisation?!

Razetime

@emanresuA wonder if it will finish within the decade eitherway

lyxal

22:51

@VyxalBot holy crap Kevin was here

hyper-neutrino

if you need me to do things

you'll probably find more success giving an exact specification for what something should do and tell me where to put it and i'll just do implementation

if i don't like the way it's being done i'll bring up changes but if i'm given too much freedom i'll just end up forgetting about it :p

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino that's why we're documenting all the elements in yaml first lol

Because then you can see the expected results for each element

hyper-neutrino

nice

user

@lyxal A fellow stacker

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