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Q: Complicated comprehension of the sentence

shuo ge In his heart every man knows quite well that, being unique, he will be in the world only once and that no imaginable chance will for a second time gather together into a unity so strangely variegated an assortment as he is: he knows it but hides it like a bad conscience. - quoted from 'Untimely ...

 
4:19 AM
@bobble "too long"? I do not understand.
 
I'm wondering if I could get to the point faster, my dear long-winded friend
 
Perhaps my middle section is unnecessary and more words aren't adding value to the answer
 
of course if I were @Tsundoku I could understand. Assuming the Mandarin flavor of Chinese.
 
If I was speaking Chinese it would be Cantonese
(and I mean, if you count "I love you", "Happy New Year", "Happy Birthday", "grandma", "grandpa", and 1-10 as speaking a language then I speak it)
 
4:24 AM
@Tsundoku Randolph was wondering whether was appropriate for a question about the title "The Red Wheelbarrow." How is saying that it would be odd to not apply the tag to that question a straw man argument? I'm missing something here ...
@Randal'Thor yeah I'd change the tag wiki because any question about the title of a work should be tagged IMHO
@bobble 👍🏽
 
Personally I prefer Rand's wording
 
@bobble The Notre Dame one, yes. The Korean folk tale one, no. The header of that one is misleading anyway. Folk tales don't have "original titles" or titles at all, really.
@bobble Yup I agree
To address your "too long" concern seriously: I think the middle section would be useful information to make your answer more convincing.
 
Darn it, I forgot to save the text
Anyways that makes everything but the introduction disappear
 
@bobble ouch!
 
I'll think about restructuring tomorrow
Does need "author" tags? (lyricist, composer)
Should bobble be thinking this much about tags?
 
5:01 AM
@bobble I'd say lyricist but not composer? Dunno what others think
@bobble Someone has to
 
bobble will sleep and see if she gets answers overnight
 
5:21 AM
g'nite!
 
 
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10:08 AM
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Q: What is meant by "Nysa" in the Lusiads?

Rand al'ThorThe following verse appears in Book 1 of The Lusiads (William Mickle's translation, 1877 edition; emphasis mine): So spoke high Jove: the gods in silence heard, Then rising, each by turns his thoughts preferr’d But chief was Bacchus of the adverse train; Fearful he was, nor fear’d his pride in v...

 
 
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1:31 PM
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Q: What does "hawk" mean in the context below?

Viser HashemiThis passage is from The children's bach by Helen Garner Over the back fence, nearer the creek, lived an old couple whom Dexter and Athena had never seen but whom they referred to as Mister and Missus F****n’. They drank, they smashed things, they hawked and swore and vomited, they cursed each o...

 
 
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3:41 PM
No one in here at all over my night? Wow.
 
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Q: Best Questions & Answers from 1st Quarter of 2021

Rand al'ThorHere's the latest installment in the regular best-of-quarter collections, intended to gather some particularly good Literature Q&A in order to get some easily available links to showcase our site. One use for this post could be to gather links for promotion on Literature's community-run Twitter a...

 
@bobble I was here, just not ... chatty.
 
Not sure what the ... was supposed to imply?
 
3:57 PM
Just a pause. Don't read too much into it.
 
Is this enough of an answer? Is it useful?
 
I'd say it's at least a partial answer (even if not a very good one) to "how Andersen knew so much about India".
Oh, @bobble, you might appreciate this:
in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, 2 days ago, by Rand al'Thor
The Tale of Potter Rabbit, a rabbit with a distinctive facial mark who takes on the Dark Lord and ultimately wins. No, wait, that's Watership Down.
(context: a discussion of whether "Potterverse" should refer to J.K. Rowling's world of Harry Potter or Beatrix Potter's world of Peter Rabbit)
 
hehe
oh - I finally have access to a library again! School is doing a partial reopening, and one of the first things to be open to the general student body is the library. Turns our the librarian is a Redwall fan, and has every book in the series collected... I picked up Redwall. Suggestions on which to check out afterwards?
 
4:13 PM
@bobble I refer you to my answer on Redwall reading order. Redwall, Mattimeo, The Pearls of Lutra, The Long Patrol, Marlfox, The Taggerung, then you can start jumping around with the prequelly stuff (Martin/Luke, Joseph/Mariel, badgers, etc.)
Pinging the lurking @Alex who's also read Redwall, in case he has another suggestion.
 
The fact that I've already read some of the books doesn't change the recommended order?
 
I forget which ones you've read. But anyway, my suggested order is less about avoiding spoilers and more about grouping sub-series together.
Those six I mentioned have a clear flow from one to the next, each one having character(s) in common with the next one.
Ditto with the Joseph/Mariel mini-series of two books and the Martin/Luke mini-series of three books.
 
I also won't have access to this library after school lets out (June) and I most definitely can't finish the series by then.
 
If you don't feel like re-reading the ones you've already read, can just skip those.
(I always felt Redwall books never suffered from a re-read.)
 
I've forgotten them, though... choices, choices
must optimize my limited time for reading!
agh
Yeah, I'll probably just re-read the ones that I already read
 
4:20 PM
Favourites of mine include The Long Patrol, Marlfox, The Taggerung, and The Bellmaker. Maybe also Loamhedge and Rakkety Tam, although I don't remember so much about the final eight books (think I never had a chance to re-read those).
 
Not Pearls of Lutra? I recall you mentioning that one before
 
I almost included that one too, but my memories of it may be rose-tinted by it being the first one I ever read.
So I just listed the ones which I'm more sure were particularly enjoyable in a more objective way (still subjective, but at least according to my taste in books, rather than just when I read them).
 
@Randal'Thor Google translate says your name doesn't have Arabic significance. Is this true?
 
@Soyuz42 Yes, it comes from a fantasy series. There might be an Arabic connection at several degrees of separation, since the Wheel of Time series includes many well-constructed fictional countries and cultures, presumably drawing on various real life ones, and perhaps the author drew on Arabic inspiration for the "al" part of the name.
In-universe, having "al" in your name signifies nobility in the Borderlands (like al'Lan Mandragoran). Rand has no Borderland connections, but that was how people first started treating him like a lord, just from his name, during his visit to Shienar.
 
4:42 PM
@Randal'Thor Wait, so what were the jokes on South African gold coins about?
 
@Bookworm Looks like I'm not the only one confused by proper names in Os Lusiadas
 
Never mind, I just looked up what the South African currency is called.
 
 
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7:51 PM
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Q: King on a Boat Ride Hears a Sound, Oarsman vs. Advisor Efficiency in Determining

Brian StinarI remember a story about a king riding in a boat. His oarsman is complaining about rowing, and all the hard work he is doing. They get to where they are going, get ready to go to sleep, and a sound wakes everyone up. The king sends the oarsman to check. They are cats. The king asks a bunch of que...

 
8:16 PM
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Q: Possible symbolism in this short Hindi story

user392289Krishna Sobti‘s short story Sikka Badal Gaya (literally, The Coin Has Changed, referring to a change of administration) is set in Partition-era Pakistan. The main character is an old Hindu woman named Shahni who has lived in a village in the newly-formed Pakistan for fifty years. She is the widow...

 
 
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9:36 PM
Looking for recommendations for books similar to the Three Body trilogy
 
@frandude I assume you mean Liu Cixin's Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy?
 
That's right :)
Any suggestions?
 
I have hardly read any science fiction (except for that trilogy, some of Ursula Le Guin's book and two others) but Goodreads has this list of Books similar to The Three-Body Problem (Remembrance of Earth’s Past #1).
I suppose that's mostly "hard science fiction"; I have no idea what else these books have in common.
 
(sure glad i butted in during a technical discussion)
 
You might have more success in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
A technical discussion?
 
9:46 PM
Okay, scientific.
Fantasia Mathematica is an anthology published in 1958 containing stories, humor, poems, etc., all on mathematical topics, compiled by Clifton Fadiman. A companion volume was published as The Mathematical Magpie (1962). The volume contains writing by authors including Robert Heinlein, Aldous Huxley, H. G. Wells, and Martin Gardner. == Contents == "Introduction" by Clifton Fadiman === Odd numbers === "Young Archimedes" by Aldous Huxley "Pythagoras and the Psychoanalyst" by Arthur Koestler "Mother and the Decimal Point" by Richard Llewellyn "Jurgen Proves It by Mathematics" by James Branch Cabell...
Do anthologies count as literature?
 
What is on topic here is not simply determined by the type of book; the type of question is at least as important.
It is perfectly possible to ask questions about the stories and poems in that book that would be on topic here.
@frandude Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness is on that Goodreads list, but I can't say it is "similar" to Liu Cixin's trilogy.
 
(Wish i could delete the line with "scientific." Plese ignore it.)
To intersperse, Fantasia Mathematica is an anthology that opens minds.
 
@humn I have never heard of Fadiman. Have you read any of his other books?
 
The Mathematical Magpie is an anthology published in 1962, compiled by Clifton Fadiman as a companion volume to his Fantasia Mathematica (1958). The volume contains stories, cartoons, essays, rhymes, music, anecdotes, aphorisms, and other oddments. Authors include Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, Mark Twain, Lewis Carroll, and many other renowned figures. A revised edition was issued in 1981 and again in 1997. Although out of print, it is recommended for undergraduate mathematics libraries by the Mathematical Association of America as part of their Basic Library List. == Contents == "Cartoon" by...
 
He knew people such as Mark Van Doren, Jacques Barzun, Mortimer Adler and Lionel Trilling, which are more familiar names.
 
9:57 PM
! did not know that!
I have other examples, to repeat the question:
Do anthologies count as literature?
 
@frandude Ah, the SFF people sent you over here. Sorry, I hadn't noticed.
@humn It depends on what's in the anthology.
Both anthologies you have linked to contain works or excerpts from authors of works of literature.
 
Some famous.
And of course the preface could be half the book.
That's another question. Could the preface to a book be literature as well. I say yes to all.
. . . having edited numerous prefaces, some more than 100 pages long.
(The long ones were explanations of translations.)
Strictly speaking, literature is anything written. Or spoken?
 
What is or is not literature is not determined by a clear demarcation based on the features of a text; see What is literature?
 
Thank you.
@Tsundoku , sorry to have not mentioned the artistic aspect. Took that for granted!
 
10:14 PM
@humn When do we treat a text as "artistic"? (See also "hyper-protected cooperative principle" in my answer.) There have been many non-fiction texts that were studied for the way in which they expressed ideas rather than simply for the ideas themselves.
 
(looking again)
@Tsundoku , i will catch up with you. "Artistic" was a compression of many reflexes.
 
(It's a rather long answer and I still have vague plans to expand it ...)
 
@Tsundoku , well appreciated. You are a scholar.
 
You're too kind.
 
You are kind to share! Takes guts.
, , ,
And my question has been refined:
When does an anthology count as literature?
(Sheesh, should've looked that up on the main site before asking here. But lazy. And also, main-site lookup isn't so efficient.)
To go on, much of my reading has been spurred by anthologies.
 
10:32 PM
@humn So the question comes down to "When do we treat an anthology as literature?" Of course, some publishers print "shelve as ..." in a book's front matter.
 
?!
 
I don't have examples at hand, but I have seen this. Probably mostly in books by American publishers.
 
Yes, i have seen "shelve as" also. Making me think twice. It hurts.
 
Well, that information is strictly for the benefit if bookshops. At home, you can shelve your book any way you like.
 
My dream. To run a used book shop.
 
10:36 PM
Feb 5 at 15:38, by Tsundoku
May 7 '20 at 20:52, by Tsundoku
How do you arrange your book shelves: Coronavirus: Library books rearranged in size order by cleaner (BBC News, 24 April 2020).
 
Back to mathematics! A bookshelf is multidimensional.
Takes me two days to go through any decent bookstore.
 
Oh, I exploit every dimension of my bookshelves. Two or three rows behind each other, and more books on top of those rows...
 
And that's another question: How to even categorisze?
My last resort is memory.
@Tsundoku , think i know what you mean
Buried in books.
With or without internet, there they are.
Many of them stolen.
Which are my bona fides.
 
You're not only eclectic, you're also a collector!
 
10:46 PM
We've had questions about anthologies before.
 
@Tsundoku Me too, long ago.
 
I'm a gatherer.
 
They look like they have a lot of Shakespeare and Marlowe
 
@b_jonas Yes, it's just the "Shakespeare & friends" part. And you can't see the rows behind the visible ones; where I have other Elizabethan authors, such as Middleton, Webster, Kyd, Jonson, ...
 
@verbose , classic!
 
10:51 PM
@b_jonas Those shelves represent less than one seventh of the books I own. I don't know whether I should feel proud or desperate.
 
@Tsundoku , someone once asked me why i have so many bookshelves: "Do you expect to live forever?" I answered: "Just in case i do."
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@humn LOL
 
I don't have that many books of any one author. The most I have from one author is 15 or so Jules Verne books, with a few more on my wishlist.
Admittedly the seven Harry Potter books are almost as thick, but they are less dense.
 
@b_jonas Well, I wanted to have all of Shakespeare's plays, so I couldn't stop at 20. I read 20 of Shakespeare's plays as a student.
 
And yes, those books in the photo aren't all by Shakespeare
@Tsundoku Is there a sonnets book somewhere in those photos?
@Tsundoku All of Shakespeare's plays... hmm, I'm not sure how much that is, let me look it up
 
10:58 PM
@b_jonas Top shelf. On top of the other books, on the left.
 
ah yes, it's even labeled in a marker or felt tip pen
 
It's Kerrigan's Penguin edition, which is good.
 
11:14 PM
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Q: What does "I—am that is" mean in the rhyme under the Great Hall tapestry?

bobbleIn Redwall (first book of its eponymous series), before even the little scene-setting snippet of text that precedes Book 1, a poem appears: Who says that I am dead Knows nought at all. I—am that is, Two mice within Redwall. The Warrior sleeps 'Twixt Hall and Cavern Hole. I—am that is, Take on my...

 
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Q: What is the Persian story that Rabindranath Tagore summarises in a letter from June 1894?

TsundokuIn Glimpses of Bengal, a selection of Rabindranath Tagore's letters included in The Definitive Tagore (Rupa Publications, 2017), Tagore summarises the following story (letter from 24 June 1894): There is a Persian story which I was greatly taken with when I read it as a boy—I think I understood,...

 

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