The name of Bibhutibhusan bandopadhaya is a very well known name in Bengali literature. His famous novels are "pather Panchali", "Aparajit" "Apur Sansar".these three novels were awarded many prizes." pather Panchali" and "Ashani shanket" won prizes in international film festivals. these films wer...
@Randal'Thor They were both at 6 until Brahadeesh deleted his account. Than both went back to five. So the "again" in my previous message appears to be mistaken.
Several other suggestions lost an upvote when Brahadeesh's account was deleted, including Thomas Middleton.
Yes, very likely. And we'll see how the Jorge Amado suggestions goes.
By the way, I asked in a comment why the Romeo & Juliet suggestion is so unpopular. Is it because because the idea of reading works inspired by another literary work is not appealing or because the list of works inspired by Romeo and Juliet is not appealing?
I'm curious, because this is not the only example of this type of suggestion that I have considered posting.
If the suggestion was downvoted because the type of suggestion is not appealing, I don't need to propose anything like it again. If it is just that specific list of works, something else like it might work better.
@Tsundoku For me, a bit of both. It has the same problem as the Holocaust literature suggestion in that the boundaries aren't very clearly defined - how loosely can something be connected to / inspired by R&J and still count for the topic challenge? Also, although the derivative works themselves may be plenty diverse, the inspiration point of Romeo & Juliet itself is hardly outside of our site's normal range of topics.
(In fact, the "works inspired by The Stranger" challenge was something similar, but ended up generating questions mostly about Camus's novel instead of Daoud's novel.)
Those two considerations together were enough for me to downvote. If it was, say, "works inspired by Os Lusiadas" instead, I might've been ambivalent and not voted on it, maybe even upvoted.
@Tsundoku Or because R&J is a quintessential example of what the site naturally tends to focus on (in regards to culture and language) and so doesn't match with the goals of the topic challenges
OK, I didn't expect the boundaries to be an issue, since it is different from the wider theme of lovers who need to overcome resistance from their own families (e.g. Pyramys and Thisbe).
In that case, I won't post a similar suggestion for works inspired by The Tempest, even though that play inspired greater works that Romeo & Juliet.
In Rabindranath Tagore's "At the End of the Day", there's one stanza that goes like this:
To you I only pray –
Before I go let me know
Looking at the sky
Why mother earth so green
Gave me a call
Why the silence of the night
Told me the stories of the stars
Why the lights of the day
Raised waves ...
In chapter 2 of The Just Men of Cordova by Edgar Wallace, the author was describing a business man in London:
His was a name to conjure with in certain circles. In others it was never mentioned. The financial lords of the City—the Farings, the Wertheiners, the Scott-Teasons—had no official knowl...
I request complete works of William Shakespeare as a TOPIC CHALLENGE for future consideration. I have already put works of Rabindra Nath Tagore on for consideration as OCTOBER-NOVEMBER 2020 TOPIC CHALLENGE.
Although I have read only few English novels. But I recently heard about fyodors - brothers karamazov
That it's a good read and lights people life...
Then I read the following review on goodreads -
That was interesting the way this guy has written that the author builds up three characters and t...
As a narrator, Orwell continues to reassure the reader that the animals believe that their lives are better under Napoleon. Yet, as readers, we are continually exposed to situations that suggest things are worse. Why do you think Orwell creates this contradiction for the reader? What is the effec...
@Tsundoku Ok. The headers are a bit distracting, I think it might be better as one sorted list, the future one labelled as "(future)", the ongoing ones labelled as "(ongoing)", and the rest unlabelled (because there's no point to discourage people from past topic challenges).
@Randal'Thor Oh good. That's one that I'm interested about. I'll have to get a copy from the libraries.
The title is suggestive enough to elicit an understanding that Andrade probably purposefully made this poem difficult to read to people who are not familiar with Tupi culture. A conscious effort of Mário de Andrade to rebuke the Eurocentric mindset is evidenced by the abundant symbolic imagery.1
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@Bookworm @EddieKal So now we have a lusophone-literature tag and a portuguese-literature tag, which presumably will have to be synonymised, one way or the other depending on the outcome of that meta discussion.
It makes more sense for languages which have spread to be spoken in widely different parts of the world: mainly European ones, thanks to colonisation. E.g. Francophone literature could be from France or Canada or French Guiana or Algeria or Congo or various other countries scattered across the globe.
@NorthLæraðr "koreanophone" would pop up when you start typing "korea..." as a tag. Much easier than "sinophone", but tag synonyms can solve that issue.
IMO there's no universal solution: we may need to have several more specific meta discussions, like we did for Scandinavian languages. Any attempt at a one-size-fits-all solution is going to be unfair to one language/language-group/culture or another.
@Tsundoku Maybe that's a good third option, emphasising that the tags are for languages not countries without introducing technical/non-user-friendly (to steal North's words) words.
@NorthLæraðr It is not like the relationship between nation states, culture, and language hasn't been explored. A ton of literature (in the academic sense) out there. I did a little more than scratching the surface in my meta post, but if that's not good enough for you don't let me stop you from reading further. I am reluctant to enumerate Korean literature scholars right now and cite their works but there's a ton of people out there, you know.
@NorthLæraðr So the story goes, years ago, one of my best friends, a Korean guy, showed me a news clip from the state controlled North Korean TV broadcaster where a NK anchor was reading from a script in a condemning tone, as they always do on NK TV. My friend thought it'd be interesting for me to see because I was learning Korean at the time
Then he says, "That's not Korean. No Korean would talk like that."
@NapoleonWilson Didn't know I was on Mars, Herr Wilson.
South Koreans may be more inclined and biased, but it's still Korean. They have a different merge of like a dialect-accent thing in North Korean that makes the language slightly different, but it's still Korean
As for calling "Scots" a separate language rather than just an accent/dialect of English ... looks left, looks right, doesn't see any SNP members ... that just comes from Scottish nationalism fuelled by separatist movements.
Not to be confused with Scottish Gaelic which is a totally different language.
@EddieKal A Kazakh mathematician once told me that mapping between Turkish and Kazakh is a simple matter of transforming specific letters/phonemes to specific other ones. I don't know if that's the case for all Turkic languages, but it wouldn't surprise me.
The flip side is at least just as valid. Insisting "Scots" is not a language in any context can be seen as largely coming from British nationalism and imperial pride
Turkish and Azerbaijani are basically the same language, barring a few letters pronounced differently (same "mapping between" thing like Turkish and Kazakh) and a few words with completely different meanings which can lead to some embarrassing faux pas.
@EddieKal Why would British nationalism and imperial pride even lead to denying the existence of multiple languages spoken natively in Britain?
@EddieKal Well, my Turkish, the Turkish Turkish, and Azerbaijani are between three dialects and three different languages. I understand some of what they say, as they do mine, but it's nowhere near full comprehension
@EddieKal I'm basing this on what I've heard from native speakers, including native speakers of one language working in countries speaking the other :-)
Perhaps, at least partially, another case of politics interfering with linguistics?
@EddieKal Not sure what you're referring to here. Of course the process of defining boundaries between languages is complex, and languages diversify and evolve including away from each other. Saying that two "different languages" are mutually intelligible isn't denying any of that.
@NapoleonWilson Because "we have a whole different language, not just a different way of speaking from you" can be used as fuel for separatism, emphasising and exaggerating the differences between Scotland and England.
Every time I hear a conversation about Scottish nationalism I think of this:
> Mark Renton: : It's SHITE being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We're ruled by effete assholes. It's a SHITE state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and ALL the fresh air in the world won't make any fucking difference
Hell, I've seen in a Scottish museum a map of geological history which claimed that Scotland and England used to be connected to entirely separate landmasses millions of years ago, Scotland with Greenland and England with continental Europe.
Politics can influence harder sciences than linguistic science.
@NorthLæraðr A whole bunch of former British Empire countries which gained their independence still have the British Queen as their head of state. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, ...
Anyway much of the history of science in Britain consists of the Brits sticking their fingers in their ears and refusing to listen to the advances being made on the continent ;-)
I find it so funny that in America, we are literally brainwashed from birth about our nation's history, and great presidents, etc. blah blah blah and eventually you end up thinking every country learns about the American Revoltuion because it was SUCH AN important turning point in history
Some people outside Britain think that anti-continental-Europe sentiment there is a relatively recent phenomenon, due to people like Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson, while the truth is they're just the most recent figureheads in a way of thinking that's been around in one form or another for centuries.
I've always been curious on how they view the American Revolution in England, so I looked on Quora and majority of people were like "Yeah, I never learned about it"
@EddieKal I guess the crumbling of the British Empire after WW2 was partly due to people from those places saying "look, we helped you win this war, now give us something in return"?
It's natural for schools to teach primarily about the own country's history. I would have been interested a bit more in the stuff in Britain or the US, too, except for Nazis on end. ;-) Although, we did some British history in English classes.
Oddly the American Revolution was done as kind of an afterthought, rather than in combination with the classes on the French Revolution. But again, that's probably simply because of Eurocentric history classes, unfortunately.
@NapoleonWilson I mean, granted, French Revolution is way cooler than the American Revolution
Like American Revolution, people get salty over getting taxed, says "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH" and somehow win the war (thanks France, real homie)
Now the French Revolution, on the other hand, has people getting decapitated.
Although the American Revolution was pretty much marked the beginning of a transition from a monarchy into democracy, French Revolution really kicked it up a notch
But then again, they kind of failed. I mean to replace one dictator with another dictator?
At least after the French Revolution, some peasants were like "Yeah, the monarch sucks! Boo" and then started all these other rebellions throughout Europe
(Mostly unsucessful)
America kind of failed too though because they forgot about women, African-Americans, and most importantly, Native Americans
I once had Bruce Perens tell me that the Dutch spoken in Flanders (I suppose he called it Flemish) and the Dutch spoken in the Netherlands were not mutually intelligible. Pointing out that I am a native speaker of Dutch and that I had watched a lot of Netherlandic tv programmes without any difficulty did not change his opinion ...
This Bruce Perens, for those who have never heard of thim.
Pfff, there is a yearly dictation/spelling competition with participants from the Netherlands and Flanders. Until a few years ago, the dictation text used to be spoken by someone from the Netherlands. In spite of that, the Flemish won the competition more frequently than the Dutch.
@NorthLæraðr He was at a conference in Kristiansand in the south of Norway in the summer of 2004.
The song City of Blinding Lights by U2 contains the following verse:
In the city of blinding lights,
The more you know
The less you feel
Some pray for, others steal
Blessings not just for the ones who kneel, luckily
What does the last line refer to? Why do blessings go both to the ones who stea...
Title/Author of a 1920-30s poem, closing with the phrase;" If there is no reward for devotion such as this, I'll take my chances in hell." The narrator being a soldier returned from Post WWI France trench warfare, speaking of the unit's pet dog.