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Rand al'Thor

01:02

@Mithrandir Where's the meta consensus saying that resource requests are off-topic? The closest I can find is this, which has a relatively low-scoring answer (+3/-1) characterising "bad" resource requests in a way that basically comes down to GSBS. IMO, this question here doesn't count as a "bad" resource request - either there is a site of the kind the OP is looking for, or there isn't, and it'll be pretty clear whether or not a given answer actually provides one or not. — Rand al'Thor 19 mins ago

@Mithrandir Not sure if you should have modhammered that question, without any clear meta consensus on resource requests.

Seems quite objective and answerable to me.

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Shokhet

02:23

@Randal'Thor I agree, even if earlier versions of the question were a drop unclear

7 hours ago, by Shokhet

FTR I VTC'ed as "Unclear," because I didn't understand if he wanted a list for just those authors (and maybe just those books), or a general request. ...I think the general request for a ranking of book sales would be fine

....see my suggested edit which tries to make the question a little clearer

...since I originally voted to close as unclear, I'll wait until my edit (or something similar) happens to VTRO

Hamlet

Not sure where I stand on resource requests. I don't think that meta question really has gotten enough attention to accurately reflect any sort of community consensus.

Shokhet

It is very annoying not to be able to edit without approval :P ...on the plus side, I only need 42 more points to get there, so it shouldn't be too long to wait

@Hamlet Either way, this @Randal'Thor makes a good point that this particular resource request isn't very subjective. Either there is a resource that satisfies the OP's criteria, or there isn't. No opinion involved.

That criteria is pretty clear, IMO:

> Is there an online site that would show, filtered by author, how many copies of each of an author's works have sold?

Hamlet

@Shokhet I agree. The one thing holding me back is that in 99% of cases, resource request questions can be rewritten as non-resource-request questions

Shokhet

This doesn't have to be a test case for all resource requests. There is very little subjectivity involved in this question

@Hamlet ^^^ written at the same time as your comment, functions well as a response to your comment anyway. The closure or opening of this question need not go any further than just this question

Hamlet

@Shokhet "The closure or opening of this question need not go any further than just this question" ??????

Shokhet

02:39

I'm sorry if I'm being unclear. I'm a little tired, and probably should log off soon. Let me try to reword that

Hamlet

@Shokhet don't reword it, log off and go to bed :)

Shokhet

I'm basically trying to say that the discussion around closing or reopening literature.stackexchange.com/questions/2154/… doesn't have to be about whether resource requests in general are on topic. There is no subjectivity involved in this question

@Hamlet Oh, you think I'm going to bed? Then you haven't met my chemistry homework :P

Hamlet

@Shokhet lol completely sympathize!

Shokhet

Anyway, I'd better go. You're right, we can continue this tomorrow

Night, everyone :)

Rand al'Thor

@Shokhet Agreed. There are two kinds of meta questions: general policy-setting ones and specific "what should we do with this situation?" ones. If we can't come to a consensus about resource requests in general, we may still be able to come to one about this particular question.

Shokhet

02:43

@Randal'Thor 👍

Rand al'Thor

@Hamlet Can you approve Shokhet's edit to that question? It just bugs me to see the little "edit (1)" and be unable to do anything more about it :-P

And with that, I'm signing off too. Goodnight all.

Napoleon Wilson

Good night.

Hamlet

@Randal'Thor lol you're talking to the moderator who has handled the least amount of flags

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BESW

04:10

Today I'm studying symbolism in The Laramie Project.

BESW

04:43

Submission call for Mad Scientist Journal's Utter Fabrication: Historical Accounts of Unusual Buildings and Structures, a collection of fictional stories about haunted houses and other weird places.

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Gallifreyan

08:02

@Shokhet 6 pings :)

Gallifreyan

08:19

Q: How do I keep my slaves happy?

A year ago, feline mammalian space pirates, a remnant of a collapsed civilization, conquered earth with their advanced technology (their civilization was Kardashev type I) and built a megacity on the continent of North America. The pirates killed 90% of human population but spared the lives of th...

Shouldn't this be on workplace.se? — isanae 1 hour ago

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VicAche

09:46

@Hamlet aligned on that. Thanks for your comments!

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Standback

11:00

@Gallifreyan @BeastlyGerbil Didn't quite follow the flow of the transcript -- I am not clear on what it is I did or didn't defend in my post there. But, more to the point, that post of mine might be highest-voted, but it's still pretty darn contentious -- +12, -6. I think the answer here is a very firm "no consensus yet."

OTOH, people who want to tag with author+title have an easy tagging system, and those who don't, kind of don't. So I have some suspicions about how that might pan out :P

Mithrandir

@Standback Easy wins...

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Rand al'Thor

14:25

@Hamlet I don't care who's handled how many flags here. All three of you are engaging with the community in meta and chat, and taking part in useful discussions, and that's more important (IMO) than the quantitative measure of flags handled.

Hamlet

15:10

peterchrisp.blogspot.com/2017/03/…

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Gallifreyan

16:48

Gallifreyan

17:02

52 rep until I have "mod privileges"

Someone please post a _Sandmand, or Strugatsky brothers question

@Shokhet ^^^

Shokhet

17:27

@Gallifreyan Does Dream have free will?

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet That's cheating

But, if you accept Overture for an answer I'll post it

Shokhet

@Gallifreyan Hey, you did pretty well with my other comic free will question ;-)

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet ironic that this question will require me to dip to prequels as well :)

Shokhet

@Gallifreyan Say what? I thought it's pretty clear that he does. In P&L at least he seems to be pretty much in control of what he does

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet but in Overture it's... ah, I shouldn't spoil it

Shokhet

17:32

I'll see if I can find a good question for you later. I probably won't ask that one

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet Don't forget to message me first so I can prepare an answer and be the Fastest Gun in the West :D

Shokhet

18:06

@Gallifreyan I'll try :)

You may be asleep by the time I post. I need to get thru a bunch of classes and a chemistry lab tonight

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet I feel ya - I have physics tomorrow

Shokhet

@Gallifreyan Good luck

I'm not finished with the pre-lab work yet... :0

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet thanks! What are you doing in this lab?

Shokhet

Not sure. Didn't start it yet...was too busy with last week's post-lab

We did an iodine clock reaction

Gallifreyan

Hm. We did "A penny's worth of chemistry"

Shokhet

18:19

@Gallifreyan It's time for me to go to class, but what do you think about they symbology of Dream's articles of power? I haven't found much on Google, but there was this one thing I found about "'Being' Decentered in Sandman: History, Dreams, Gender, and the 'Prince of Metaphor and Allusion'." Do you have anything on that?

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet Articles of power?

Shokhet

@Gallifreyan Ruby, pouch of sand, helm. The things he lost when he was captured and spends the entire P&L trying to recover

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet You mean P&N, right? I see what you're talking about. I'll have to think of it. The Ruby and Helmet may be easy, but the Pouch I'm not sure of.

Shokhet

@Gallifreyan yes, that. I don't know how that L got there :p

Gallifreyan

@Shokhet I'll read what you linked tomorrow

Sounds very interesting, and not a trivial question at all.

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Bookworm

21:01

Q: What does Sedgemoor trade-mark, white sleeve badge mean?

Can somebody please explain this expression from a Mark Twain story, A Double Barrelled Detective Story: 'Sedgemoor trade-mark, white sleeve badge'? Here is the context: Among other things he said that my character was written in my face; that I was treacherous, a dissembler, a coward, and a...

mark-twain american-literature

Standback

21:44

@Randal'Thor : Great answer on the Greatness of Gatsby! I really enjoyed :)

Mithrandir

BTW, @Standback, pinging works with punctuation after the name without a space.

If you're interested in writing challenges, please consider committing to the trial run for this suggestion over at meta.writers, under Standback's answer.

Napoleon Wilson

Seems like a great idea...but an, at least weird, idea for meta.

Although, relieving that 10-minutes time pressure is a nice idea, I'm not sure meta is really the appropriate place for shenanigans like that rather than chat.

Mithrandir

Why?

It might liven up their meta ;)

Napoleon Wilson

21:59

I presume Literature wouldn't like this? Just making sure. ;-)

Mithrandir

It's technically on topic, I think, but it would need a lot of cleanup.

Also, they don't say why they think it's from a poem, so....

Napoleon Wilson

Anyway, already resolved, apparently it was from some movie and the user was really confused.

Mithrandir

Urg, @NapoleonWilson,you made that edit, which is exactly the same as my suggested edit, after I submitted it :/

movies.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/57701

Napoleon Wilson

@Mithrandir Tough luck. ;-)

Besides that, mine was better. ;-P

Riker

"A chrystal forest"

I too like chrystal forests

Mithrandir

22:12

Whatever :P

BESW

23:06

The PBS Idea Channel asks, "What type of popular work might survive as the archetypal form of the early 21st century?"

(Their historical example of the three-part novel and penny dreadful is understandably incomplete, but a decent introduction to a fascinating subject.)

BESW

23:38

@SevenSidedDie I'm reading this now, and you're right! I'm also considering it to be not just about romance novels but simultaneously about examining the female experience through the lens of romance novels. Absolutely fascinating.

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