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12:00 AM
If your entire site is founded upon a distinction between cannon and non-cannon...
then that's what you're going to get.
 
@Hamlet Well, an unreasonably strict interpretation of "back it up" would hold that the only valuable backup is direct canon sources, rather than common sense.
 
@Randal'Thor no, that's not how back it up works.
It is essentially (1) explain how you know stuff, and (2) explain the why and how behind your answer.
 
@Hamlet I know, hence "unreasonably".
 
@Randal'Thor I've mentioned that the concept of cannon is counterproductive to the study of literature?
 
@Hamlet Pretty sure that came up during the authorial intent debate(s) :-)
 
12:06 AM
Theories are not correct or incorrect. Theories either explain things or don't explain things.
 
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12:39 AM
Someday I want to read YA that isn't the Hunger Games reskinned or overly wise manic pixie dying teenagers. (I know there are exceptions. I have read exceptions to this rule but lately I feel like I keep running into these these two things.)
 
Plus Points: Narratives. A short YouTube series about reading the Bible through the lens of genre and context without losing sight of it as a document of faith.
 
It's a shame Standback hasn't been around in a while. He did some really good answers in the Borges tag.
 
1:03 AM
@Ash Hmm. I always have a hard time figuring out whether what I'm reading falls into that nebulous category, but MacGuires' Wayward Children series probably fits the bill.
Also Joyce's Guardians of Childhood, though it may lean a little young.
Vernon's got some good stuff like Castle Hangnail.
(I'm trying to think of recent stuff I've read; if we go back to my days of actually being a YA I'd have a lot more but they're the things you're probably already more aware of.)
 
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@BESW this reminds me I have a Hamster Princess book I haven't read yet, and I also actually have Castle Hangnail to read as well.
 
I'm so behind on the Hamster Princess books.
 
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My library gets the ebook versions pretty fast so I manage to keep up reasonably well.
 
I feel like the InCryptid (MacGuire) and Vorkosigan (Bujold) series are YA-plausible.
....Duane's still writing Young Wizards novels.
 
@BESW how many are there now?
 
1:13 AM
Ten, I think?
I stopped caring after the fourth. It was a great way to end the series.
I tried one or two after that and they just felt... forced.
 
The fifth was definitely lower quality than the the previous ones
 
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@BESW I'm not sure about Incryptid as YA because Antimony is the only teenager in any real sense
 
@Ash I don't think YA has to be about teenagers, just like a lot of pre-teen lit is about the teenagers the audience wants to become.
(Disney television figured that one out long ago.)
Or do we think that most people who read The Hardy Boys already have their own drivers' licenses?
 
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shrug
 
But, again, I'm not good at figuring out what people mean by YA. It's generally a post-facto marketing label that has little to do with the content and a lot to do with who middle-aged executives think it can be marketed to.
When I was in that target demographic I was reading Asimov, McCaffrey, and Applegate interchangeably.
So I think of "Foundation" and "Dragonriders" as YA.
(I don't think I'd have patience for either of them now.)
On the other hand, apparently The Last of the Mohicans was considered schoolboy fantasy pulp when it was published.
Bujold's "Penric and Desdemona" series starts off about a teenager; one of the main characters in Jemisin's Prey of Gods is a teen; in comics there's Paper Girls and Lumberjanes and Goldie Vance and Hi-Fi Fight Club...
I feel that most of the Star Wars novelizations are aimed to be comfortable for a YA audience, but don't have a lot of teens in 'em.
(Star Wars: Bloodline was good!)
 
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1:36 AM
Lumberjanes is awesome.
 
1:53 AM
Yes. It is.
I'm also really liking Paper Girls and Goldie Vance, and the Power of the Dark Crystal looks like it's not only pretty but has a legitimately knotty moral problem for its plot to gnaw on.
 
user15026
2:05 AM
I will have to check those out at some point
 
Paper Girls is, 80s tween and teen girls get caught up in an intergenerational time-traveling war from the future.
Goldie Vance is kinda if you take the "yey, cars!" of the Hardy Boys and the "yey, breaking and entering with my friends!" of Nancy Drew and cram them together into a teenage detective who lives in her dad's hotel in Florida in the 1960s.
 
 
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6:44 AM
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Q: Why is the moon "angry" in e e cummings' "the Cambridge ladies who live in furnished souls"?

DLoscThe e e cummings poem "the Cambridge ladies who live in furnished souls" mocks the titular ladies for their small-minded domesticity. The last four lines read: .... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above Cambridge if sometimes in its box of sky lavender and cornerless, the moon rattles...

 
7:09 AM
@Gilles I know chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/58631?m=39716470#39716470 people do that, but no, I'm not going to London today. I have a job and stuff you know.
 
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Q: "go a long way to explain" = "easy to explin"?

Vladimir ZolotykhThe quote from "The Sign and The Seal" by Graham Hancock: "If this had been what had happened then it would undoubtedly go a long way to explain the strangely menacing suggestion to the King of France that it might be a good idea if he were to have the 'treacherous Templars' (still mainly Fre...

 
7:47 AM
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Q: Game of thrones -books and series

Vedran Maricevic.Simply put it, can someone explain to me how is HBO series made, when there are no books written by Martin yet. I read all books and watched all series, but I dont get it. Season 7 is running currently, but there is no book that covers it. Is Westeros universe moved to small screens? Thank you

 
@Bookworm if I understand this correctly, it's asking how the TV show is being made as there is no book to base it on. If so I feel that that should probably go to SFF.
 
8:02 AM
@Mithrandir Or Movies & TV.
...maybe I could work up a question about the BBC House of Cards in the same vein. That'd be more lit-friendly.
 
 
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9:30 AM
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Q: What is the total sales number for "The Little Prince" by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry?

MOLAPThe book "The Little Prince" by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry seems to extremely popular across the whole world, but how does it compare with other children books?

 
9:49 AM
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Q: What is the name of that book which talks of a friend of Krishna called Chhandak?

IkuI read in a book having seven parts/volumes that there was a friend of Krishna called Chhandak who was always with Krishna. Can someone provide me the name of the book? Although I don't myself think that someone called Chhandak really existed, specially who was always with Krishna but the way i...

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Q: Did Evelyn Waugh see himself as a conservative author, and/or did others categorize him as such?

MOLAPDirectly Did he openly and directly declare himself belonging to the conservative tradition? Indirectly or did he do it indirectly through his view of human nature and his choice of themes in his works? For example in his works about the decline of tradition (in example Brideshead Revisited)...

 
10:24 AM
Wow, lots of new questions today! :-D
 
 
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3:12 PM
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Q: Story about father who looks through microscope for the first time

T.AllredI'm trying to figure out the name of this story that I remember reading as a child. Here are the only details I remember: There is a child who is going to school and his father, who is an old fashioned farmer, doesn't see the value of school and education. The child then brings his father to sc...

 
 
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6:53 PM
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Q: Well known examples of iambic heptameter in English

Michael HardyIs The Battle Hymn of the Republic the only well known example of iambic heptameter in English, or are there others?

 
 
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9:09 PM
Pleased to launch issue 3 of @HelloWorld_Edu! If you're an educator or volunteer you can get it for free in print!… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/903526348760723458
 

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