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A: Bringing an electric gun in the streets (Belgium)

gnasher729If you claim you want to bring a gun with you "just in case for self defense" then you have just admitted that you intend to use the gun. I don't know how Belgium handles this. In the UK, a whole bunch of armed police officers would come down on you like a brick wall. They have the theory that ...

It seems fantastic to me that a squad of armed UK officers would come down on someone asking if they are allowed to carry a particular weapon for the purpose of self-defense, even if the answer is no, if they have no reason to believe the person actually intends to break the law. I mean, I have a low opinion of the prioritization of UK police resources, but even mine isn't that low.
@abdu then you should have included a link to the term to avoid confusion.
@IllusiveBrian Why? Considering that the weapon is forbidden, why should you not expect the police to proctect citizens from other citizens who disobey the law? That is, after all, their job. Their job is not to proctect criminals, but citizens.
@MarkJohnson The OP asks whether or not carrying a particular weapon is permissible - the question doesn't mention owning one, intention to buy or carry one regardless of legality, or any language that would lead a person to believe the OP intends to break the law. The answer seems to imply that a person can't even safely ask whether a particular act is legal without the authorities breaking down their front door.
@IllusiveBrian No, it doesn't. You may apply for a permit. The answer implies that it will not be granted. A ratical difference, since the one is only a stamp and the other (your interpretation) a costly affair that responsible, realistic peaple will avoid.
@MarkJohnson Based on your answer, there is no permit application process in the UK, so I'm not sure what permit the OP has applied for in that hypothetical. If they are in Belgium, our poorly defined hypothetical seems to imply that the OP has applied for a permit pursuant to the Weapons Act, with the justification of self-defense, and the authorities for some reason take the OP's earnest attempt to follow the legal process with insufficient justification to be issued the permit as evidence that they currently own a weapon illegally and intend to carry it illegally.
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@IllusiveBrian my answer never Addresse the appliclatin
Sorry, my Nexus 7 just died, must get used top Others system.
Well actually in my question the gun is supposed to be owned, it should be clear even if omitted. Anyway the rampant delinquency makes me think that it is pertinent to bring it. If it's not legally suitable then I can think of any self-defense worth to buy from amazon, because honestly I just don't want to be wacked and found unprepared.
@MarkJohnson I'm not accustomed to it coz I only learnt recently to put them.
@IllusiveBrian My answer Had nothing to do with the application process in the UK.
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@MarkJohnson Fair enough, see my point about applying in Belgium then. Apparently the OP is now saying the question does ask about what happens if they apply for a permit and tell the government that they have a contraband item - in that case I'd expect the police to respond.
No, I was just asking about asking for a permit without specifying whether I have the weapon already.
@IllusiveBrianthe OP die Not imply that Had applid dir a permit in Belgien.
My question is valid also for other less dangerous weapons such as pepper spray and the like.
@MarkJohnson The OP didn't imply they had done anything yet, but for the police to go kick down their door there hopefully has to be some probable cause or whatever standard the UK uses. The answer seems to imply that merely stating that you want to have a weapon for self-defense is probable cause that you both have the weapon and intend to use it for a purpose other than self-defense (self-defense being legal, it would not be probable cause of criminal intent).
@abdul And my answer was, the weapon is forbidden. To carey such a weapon with a holster you must therefore apply for a permit And that IT IS unlikly that IT would be approved. (Sorry the nee Ma autocapatlises Words Not intended as shouting)
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@IllusiveBrian; @gnasher729 kindly address this question to gnasher729 and Not to me WHO did Not make such a (in my Opnion) stupid, unjustified Statement.
@abdul And the answer to that is to read the law of the county you live in and obey it.
@abdul Answers are only given for the question you asked, not the possible 20 trillian combinations you did not ask about (unless you are willing to pay, up font, € 1000 per combination).

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