New Discovery: "Riemman-like" Sum

I discovered a riemman-like sum which can find averages over domains that are finite or dense in infinite limit points.
1746d ago – Arbuja
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May 5, 2020 15:53
Also, please spell my name correctly. It is rather disrespectful what you are doing.
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May 5, 2020 14:40
In the new version, the definition is needlessly complicated.
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May 27, 2020 00:01
May 8, 2020 06:27
I have mentioned them simply because, looking at your wording, it seems unlikely that you actually wanted to link to the same post twice.
May 8, 2020 06:22
BTW you wrote about Willie Wong in your question that "he is on MathOverflow". Actually, he used to be a moderator on Mathematics.
May 8, 2020 06:20
Sorry that I have comments to form rather than to the content. (Still, improving the form might help your questions to be better received.)
May 8, 2020 06:19
> Edit: I would also like to know why this and this are unclear.
May 8, 2020 06:18
When I looked at your post, you have there twice the link to the same question.
May 6, 2020 19:34
If you use an initial partition of size $1/n$ for $n$ large, the first part of the set will be covered by $\approx \sqrt{n}$ intervals, the second part of the set by $\approx \log(n)^2$ intervals. So in your weighted average the first part is weighed infinitely more than the second, even though it is a first order limit point.
May 6, 2020 19:31
Going to your original motivation in your first/second question, there seems to be an issue. Say you start with the following set: $\{ 1/k: k \geq 5\} \cup \{ 1/2 + 2^{-j} + 2^{-k} : j, k \geq 5\}$. Your earlier analysis would force $1/2$ as the only second order limit point. But I am pretty sure if you compute your upper/lower sums, you will find that the simple limit point at 0 will be preferred.
May 5, 2020 20:15
The main question is what happens when $|A| = 0$. The conjecture is that when $A$ has measure zero, but has a non-trivial perfect kernel, then the limiting $g$ is a continuous function (like the Cantor function). And when $A$ is scattered, the limiting $g$ is a step function. In either case, the integral you are looking for should be the Stieltjes integral with weight function $g$.
May 5, 2020 20:13
When $|A| > 0$, then the family $g_\sigma$ is equicontinuous, and it is not too hard to see that $g$ is formed as \frac{1}{|A|} \int_{-1/2}^x \chi(y) ~dy $ and here $\chi(y)$ is the indicator function of $A$.
May 5, 2020 20:00
Notice that $g_\sigma$ is normalized so that it takes value between $0$ and $1$. (It is bounded.)
May 5, 2020 19:59
Consider only $\sigma < 1/2$. Let $\chi_\sigma$ be the indicator function of $A_\sigma$. Define $g_{\sigma}(x) = \frac{1}{|A_\sigma|} \int_{-1/2}^x \chi_\sigma(y) ~dy $.
May 5, 2020 19:57
First we construct a sequence of bounded functions $g_\sigma$ as follows: start with your $A$. consider the set $A_\sigma = \cup_{x\in A} (x - \sigma, x+\sigma)$. This is a union of of open intervals and hence is an open set. As long as $A$ is non-empty this set is non-empty, and hence has positive Lebesgue measure.
May 5, 2020 19:55
Probably my final comment on this: I think you can probably achieve what you want by looking at the problem differently.