Conversation started Jun 16, 2014 at 13:36.
user116848
Jun 16, 2014 13:36
@MattЭллен This sentence "Tom asked me where did I hear about the vacancy?" is grammatically correct? Or should I say it like "Tom asked me where I had heard about the vacancy?"
user116848
I would use simple one. First one? No>
The second one is correct.
user116848
Why not the simpler one
The first one works only if you make it actual speech
user116848
Like?
Jun 16, 2014 13:37
Tom asked me "where did you hear about the vacancy?"
even then, you need to change I to you
user116848
okay..
user116848
Thanks but people say it like this. So they are wrong? Grammatically
grammatically that is not correct.
because it's not a question, it's a statement
you're telling me what Tom asked you, not asking me
user116848
Yes
so, really "Tom asked me where I had heard about the vacancy." should end in a fullstop
user116848
Jun 16, 2014 13:39
Oh yes. I put "?" My bad
user116848
you are right
no worries
user116848
So without ? first one is still wrong to say?
The first one is still wrong
user116848
Thanks
user116848
Jun 16, 2014 13:41
for the help
you're welcome
user116848
"He told me yesterday that I was not a good friend last year" Grammatically correct?
user116848
Or should I say it like "He told me yesterday that I had not been a good friend last year"
That is easier to read
user116848
Jun 16, 2014 13:45
Matt here why didn't you say second one? I applied the same principle in my previous example. Didn't I?
your first question used different structures to this one, they are very different examples
user116848
Can you give any similar
similar to which one?
user116848
Both of them
user116848
Previous and this one
user116848
Jun 16, 2014 13:48
If you want to. That is
user116848
Thanks
I was asked why I had eaten all the pies
@MattЭллен Why would you not eat all the pies? Silly question.
I was told, on Tuesday, that we had not been working hard enough
@Robusto mmmmm. pie
user116848
okay...
Jun 16, 2014 13:50
@MattЭллен Silly statement. Why would you ever work hard enough?
I was told, on Tuesday, that we weren't working hard enough.
@Robusto yeah! it raises expectations.
user116848
And this "Sara asked me why did I leave kitchen lights on" This correct?
user116848
So with "had"
yes
don't use "do support" when reporting questions. I think that's fair to say.
!!wiki do support
oh
no sox
user116848
Jun 16, 2014 13:52
"did" would convey that I do that every day
In the grammar of English, the term do-support (or do-insertion) refers to the use of the auxiliary verb do, including its inflected forms does and did, to produce negated clauses and questions, as well as other constructions in which subject–auxiliary inversion is required. The verb do can be used as an auxiliary even in simple declarative sentences, where it usually serves to add emphasis, as in "I did shut the fridge." However in the negated and inverted clauses referred to above, it is used because the rules of English syntax permit these constructions only when an auxiliary is presen...
@Farooq if that's what you want to convey (i.e. an habitual action) then use simple past, without do: "Sara asked me why I leave the kitchen lights on"
user116848
okay that I know
user116848
yes...
sorry, not simple past, simple present
"Doug asked me why I eat scorpions"
"Anne wanted to know why I run"
user116848
Nod
 
Conversation ended Jun 16, 2014 at 13:59.