Logan explains how being mean to everyone can make them be nice to you.

Logan M

Dec 19, 2014 13:24

Just don't forget to be mean to anyone who is mean to you, and you'll do fine.

Toshinou Kyouko

I am lovely to everyone

Asada Shino

I'm not good at being mean with improv, if I'm going to be mean, I want to plan ahead... So I'm usually passively aggressive >_>

Logan M

No, the best way to be mean is to be in-your-face. Passive aggression just comes off as annoying. You want anyone who tries to say anything mean to you to end up in tears before you're halfway done. Then they'll think twice about being mean to someone as mean as you again.

Asada Shino

People are rarely mean to me, so I don't really have that much experience. There's one guy on my teamspeak who is mean sometimes, but he's mean to everyone and seems quite experienced at being mean, whenever I try to be mean to him, he either ignores it outright or is even meaner back at me, no point in trying, as it's not in my nature, but it apparently is in his

Logan M

People aren't mean to me because they've learned to not be mean to me. It doesn't work well for them when they try.

Asada Shino

Dec 19, 2014 13:32

With me, people I work with are not mean to be and have not been ever, the one guy on teamspeak is ridiculed when he is mean, but I guess he just got used to it and ignores it now, I wonder how (and if) he'd be stopped, lol

Sakamoto

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Q: Luffy, Zorro & Sanji strength comparison

We all read a lot about who is stronger, Luffy or Zorro and how close their strenght is. I ask myself where does this come from? Did they fight once against the same enemy? And why doesn't Sanji come up in this talks about who is the strongest? if you look at their bounty, Luffy is obviously the...

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Asada Shino

He usually makes 'below-the-belt' remarks, making it seem as if he's not directing them at you, but you (and probably the others) know he is, but it's hard to counter it or not be affected by it

And he's quite 'good' at it, sadly, knows just what to say to get under your skin

Logan M

Try countering his meanness by kidnapping his family members. That's a sufficiently mean thing to get him to respect you.

Asada Shino

Something like, if you forget something, he'll say "Yeah, I guess some people just don't care about their friends", even if it has nothing to do with him, per se

Taisho

Asada Shino

Dec 19, 2014 13:34

@LoganM I think I've heard that before? :P

@Taisho Ohh :3

Toshinou Kyouko

I just don't talk to mean people

problem solved

Asada Shino

It's hard to not talk to him, since he's on teamspeak daily and he's a friend of friends of mine on teamspeak

He's just particularly harsh to me

I have had him on ignore for a full month at some point, but conversations get very awkward when you can't hear one of the people in a conversation

Logan M

Also, look into background. Find former acquaintances and ask them if there's anything he's particularly embarrassed by or ashamed of. Then every time he's mean, casually bring it up, ideally in front of as many other people as possible. A retort like "well at least I have more than 26 hairs on my head" will usually stop the meanness in one go if he doesn't like his baldness being pointed out. If you dig up real dirt, you can try blackmail, but that's not usually necessary.

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Asada Shino

Though I must say that was nice

Toshinou Kyouko

:(

Asada Shino

Dec 19, 2014 13:39

@LoganM Hahaha, I would never have thought of something like that, I don't think I'd have the guts to go that far O_o

I've thought of just not reacting whenever he says something mean, I'll try to more actively do that and see if that has any result, he seems to thrive on responses he gets from saying something mean

Logan M

@AsadaShino Don't stop there! Start spoofing emails from HR to this guy telling him that his hygiene is unacceptable. Make fake maintenance reports that will kick him out of his office for hours. Track his restroom activities, and then set up a triggered stink-bomb in his favorite stall, and activate it when he goes in.

Asada Shino

@LoganM He doesn't have a job, hahaha

Logan M

You need this guy to know that you're the boss when it comes to meanness, and that there's no meaner person than you.

Asada Shino

Nor would he ever work where I work, I don't think he's finished college

He lives off wellfare and is apparently proud of it

Logan M

If you're nice to him, he'll think that means you're okay with him being mean to you. Mean people only understand meanness.

@AsadaShino That seems exploitable.

Anyway, the lesson here is that the only person who is free from all mean people is the meanest person in the world. If you want to avoid meanness, just become the meanest person ever, and everyone else will be nice to you. It's a very simple plan and I don't know why more people don't follow it.

Toshinou Kyouko

Dec 19, 2014 13:48

because being mean is mean

Logan M

Yes, that's the point.

Toshinou Kyouko

:(

Logan M

@ToshinouKyouko (ノಠ ∩ಠ)ノ彡( o°o)

Toshinou Kyouko

D: mean!

Logan M

/( .□.) ︵╰(゜益゜)╯︵ /(.□. /)

Toshinou Kyouko

Dec 19, 2014 13:53

(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

Logan M

ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლી

Math

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Toshinou Kyouko

¯\_༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽_/¯

Logan M

⁽⁽(੭ꐦ •̀Д•́ )੭*⁾⁾ ᑦᵒᔿᵉ ᵒᐢᵎᵎ

Toshinou Kyouko

┌(・。・)┘♪

Logan M

Dec 19, 2014 13:58

I really have to get back to work :/

Don't forget the virtues of meanness though

Asada Shino

@LoganM Why would others be nice to you if you are mean to them?

Logan M

@AsadaShino Were you paying attention? If they're mean to you, you'll be meaner back to them. So they have to be nice to you.

Toshinou Kyouko

@LoganM is a Yakuza

Asada Shino

@LoganM I just can't imagine people would want to be nice to you or even interact with you, if you are mean to everyone

Logan M

I guarantee you if you kidnap their children, they'll do anything to get them back, even be nice.

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Asada Shino

Dec 19, 2014 14:05

O_o

I see...

Logan M

It's actually a foolproof strategy.

Asada Shino

I'll just stay nice then and hope to not meet too many mean people ._.

Logan M

have it your way

Toshinou Kyouko

I don't want to meet @LoganM irl ever

he will be mean to me :(

Logan M

Only if you were mean to me first

or I felt like it

Taisho

Dec 19, 2014 14:08

Asada Shino

Ohh :3

Logan M

In any case, I should say that you don't need to be mean in general, only to mean people. Mean people are usually mean because they have low self-esteem. If you're mean enough back at them, they transition from being mean to avoiding you or being reclusive, and eventually to submissiveness. If you have a high self-esteem, you can brazenly be mean back at them until they crack. It's a very easy way to deal with such people.

Asada Shino

@LoganM I see O_o I don't know about my self-esteem, I guess it's okay xD

Logan M

If you don't know about your self-esteem, it's probably not especially high.

Asada Shino

Yeah, I thought that too as I pressed Enter xD

Logan M

Dec 19, 2014 14:18

I have high self-esteem. I know because I am confident in my self-esteem.

Asada Shino

My self-esteem is meh and I'm usually quite modest

Toshinou Kyouko

I dunno, I think if you don't think about your self-esteem it's probably good

rather than getting an inflated ego

you would also think about it a lot if you had very low self-esteem

Logan M

An inflated ego is a different issue. That can also lead to meanness, but typically only unintentionally because the person has no clue what anyone else thinks. Deliberate meanness is a product of low self-esteem.

Asada Shino

Wanting to bring people down to your level, to make yourself feel better, type?

Logan M

Yeah I don't understand their reasoning. It's illogical. But there's a perfectly logical way to deal with them, which is just to bully them until they cry. So I don't worry about it.

Toshinou Kyouko

Dec 19, 2014 14:24

:(

but then you are the mean person

it is not nice to be mean

jesus wasnt mean

Logan M

Yes, but logical meanness is optimal behavior for interpersonal interaction in certain situations.

Not all the time, perhaps, and it isn't particularly nice to be mean, but it is efficient.

Toshinou Kyouko

hitler was efficient

and also mean

look where that got him

Asada Shino

Lol

Not sure if serious

Toshinou Kyouko

Unless you are being seriously threatened I think there is no need to be mean

@AsadaShino :3 not serious

Asada Shino

@ToshinouKyouko xD

Sakamoto

Dec 19, 2014 14:29

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We all knew that Phantom Troupe/Spiders is a world-renowned gang of thieves holding the title of an A-Class Bounties organization, and all their Nen Powers are almost equal to each other. However, there is only one member that can surpass all members in Genei Ryodan, except for Chrollo Lucilfer b...

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Asada Shino

I do think I sometimes am getting to the guy that's mean to me, because he starts throwing empty threats at me "want me to punch you?", now that I think of it, that's pretty much him saying he doesn't know what to say to counter my remark and has to resort to violence to sort it out, I guess that's a victory in itself :P

nhahtdh

@Sakamoto Doesn't read like a question to me...

Logan M

Most habitually mean people need some mental help. Perhaps the nice thing to do would be to try to give it to them. But I'm not a trained mental health professional, and I have no business trying to convince such people to seek help. The best I can do is to optimize my interactions with them.

Being mean is a defense mechanism for them, and by breaking it, there's a chance they may realize their own weakness and seek help. That's not my primary goal, which is just to be done with them, but it is certainly possible, and would really be a pretty nice thing to do.

Also, if we're making the Jesus vs Hitler analogy, let's not forget that Hitler lived 23 years longer than Jesus.

nhahtdh

cv-plshttp://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/luffy-zoro-sanji-stre‌ngth-comparison

Logan M

Anyway, I'm done extolling the virtues of being mean to those who are mean. Time to get back to work.

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