Conversation started Nov 1, 2016 at 18:35.
Nov 1, 2016 18:35
Hi, I am a lowly intruder who knows nearly nothing about mathematics. I hail from English Language and Usage with some questions regarding regarding the word vinculum I think you folk might know better than my peers: First would you please tell me if any of you would recognize the word vinculum offhand? Also, if you can recognize it, would you also give me a personal opinion as to whether it can be used as a synonym for fraction bar, or if it is restricted to binding the order of operations?
I recognise the word vinculum, but only know what it means after you've mentioned it. (But, I am an ESL speaker.)
Actually, on opening Wikipedia to be sure, I did not know what it meant. I thought you meant that it was a word for the symbol $\div$.
Use "fraction bar" instead @Tonepoet
Wait, no, that's not what vinculum means @Tonepoet
Use overbar.
Or just bar.
Is $y=f(x) \iff (x,y)\in f$ ?
For the common encoding of functions in ZFC, yes.
Does it mean that $f$ is the set of all possible pair constructed from the domain and range of the function ? @MeesdeVries
Nov 1, 2016 18:45
If you have $f : X \to Y$, then $f$ typically does not consist of all pairs $(x,y)$ where $x \in X, y \in Y$ (that would be $X \times Y$), it consists of all pairs $(x,y)$ for which $f(x) = y$.
So can we deduce that $f=\{(x,y) / f(x)=y\}$ ?
And please correct my symbol for ''Such that''
Hmm, the reason I'm asking is because I am getting some conflicting data from different sources. I'm not sure if I know any better now than I did before but I think your opinions will be helpful for my purpose regardless. Thank you @MeesdeVries and @AkivaWeinberger .
@Tonepoet, for what it's worth, at least two mathematicians do not know the word, so stay away from it in text that is supposed to be easy to understand, if you can.
@Anubhav I think so, but it's nontrivial.
@Mahmoud, sure, if you want. But really, in formal ZFC, $f(x) = y$ is just a shorthand for $(x,y) \in f$, so this is pretty trivial. Also, you can make the vertical bar in your set builder notation with \mid.
 
Conversation ended Nov 1, 2016 at 18:50.