Conversation started Nov 16, 2010 at 16:23.
Nov 16, 2010 16:23
By the way, @CharlesBoyung, nice try trying to get me to say what site I think has filled the void we're trying to fill. If I thought the void was filled, there'd be no void to fill in the first place. Try again.
@CharlesBoyung, what part of "I'm not going to give further replies here." defies you?
Hello.
So, what's your point again?
You're the one that said there was a void to fill. The supposed "void" you said is there is clearly not.
@CharlesBoyung Okay, so what site are you thinking about?
Tehre are TONS of sites that answer questions about games
GameFAQs is one
@CharlesBoyung GameFAQs is about frequent [ly answered] questions. Right there in the name. Try again.
And seriously, please explain this comment: "most lists of which are released under a closed license that explicitly negates redistribution"
You clearly haven't ever been to their forums.
Anything and everything is answered there
Nov 16, 2010 16:30
Well, we believe forums suck for getting questions answered.
Why do you care about redistribution of the content on GameFAQs
That doesn't mean there's a void
If the answer is on page 924 of a thread, you're not going to find it full stop.
There is most definitely a way to get questions answered.
The void is of a Q&A engine that works about gaming.
Your answer to the question on meta is incorrect and misleading. That's all
Nov 16, 2010 16:30
@CharlesBoyung Yes, and a lot of those sites are terrible. The 'void' is not that other sites don't exist. It's that they aren't any good.
That doesn't mean that there's a void to fill.
Yes it does.
In fact, your statement proves the opposite. The sites do exist
A void can be one of quality just as surely as it can be one of existence at all.
Just because YOU think they suck doesn't mean they aren't there. Or maybe you are using some other definition of void that doesn't exist in this universe.
Nov 16, 2010 16:31
Google filled the void of search engines that worked.
Didn't mean there weren't a thousand search engines around already.
But you didn't say that it was a void of quality. You specifically said it was a void of those sites in their entirety
@CharlesBoyung I said "void" without qualifying it.
And there most definitely were search engines that worked BEFORE Google.
Sorry, wrong: See your comment: "@Charles: a site that answers your questions about gaming"
@CharlesBoyung worked well.
@CharlesBoyung Google redefined "working" in the context of search engines
@CharlesBoyung with the emphasis on yours.
Nov 16, 2010 16:33
Yahoo worked incredibly well. No one had problems with it for years
Where, you know, "answering" is the operative word.
@CharlesBoyung Do you honestly have something to contribute to the conversation, or are you just here to be a very angry pedant?
Not "commenting", not "discussing", not "finding in a list"
Forums are for discussions.
FAQs are finding on a list
@CharlesBoyung More accurately, nobody had any idea what their problems with Yahoo were until Google came along.
Your answer is incorrect and you have been unable to understand that.
Nov 16, 2010 16:34
Q&As are for answering.
@CharlesBoyung OH NOES I WILL BE DOWNVOTED
Not disagreeing with that. Disagreeing with yoru answer
Your
KEEL ME NOW!
My PRECIOUS meta reps.
You are the one who was continually stating that your answer is correct.
I'm fine with being downvoted, @CharlesBoyung.
Just don't try and pass me off as an idiot.
Well, if the shoe fits...
Nov 16, 2010 16:35
Whatever rocks your boat.
So, no comment on the fact that you just contradicted yourself?
@CharlesBoyung I didn't. Or did I? Link please.
"@CharlesBoyung I said "void" without qualifying it."
Your comment on the site:
"@Charles: a site that answers your questions about gaming"
Sure looks like you "qualified" it
6 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz
A void can be one of quality just as surely as it can be one of existence at all.
I meant qualified in this sense. ↑
I'm sorry if I was unclear about my use of "qualified".
Sorry, but that definition is incorrect anyways. You can say that there is a void of quality sites, but just saying that there is a void means that the sites do not exist at all.
Nov 16, 2010 16:40
If I changed "a void" to "a void of quality", would it make you happier?
I'd have no problem with your answer if you said there was a void of quality sites, but saying that there is a void of sites that answer questions about games is unfair to all of those sites that have existed for years.
Please remember downvoting on meta does not cost reputation. There is no reputation on meta.gaming.
Yeah, but I don't have the rep to downvote on that meta site yet.
@CharlesBoyung I don't have content of yours to upvote either to let you downvote.
No problem. I just started going to the gaming site.
Honestly, I've mainly been browsing while waiting for things to compile.
Nov 16, 2010 16:42
@CharlesBoyung Then I wish you a more pleasant and relaxed time on the site.
I just really dislike it when past successes are downplayed as irrelevant (or nonexistent), because things like stackexchange wouldn't exist if not for things like the forums on sites like GameFAQs.
Forums sucked enough for Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky to start this StackOverflow thing out of scratch, to create a new company around it and waste years of research and work into it. If you think it's a merit, fine.
Not the thing I'd boast around, but hey, to each their own.
Forums worked for years and years, and still do. I agree that Q&A is better suited to another form, but if you are denying that GameFAQs worked to answer gamers' questions, then you are wrong.
@CharlesBoyung I'm not denying GameFAQs is useless. I'm claiming GameFAQs focuses on something we don't want to go into. I'm claiming forums are poorly suited to getting questions answered. I'm claiming there's a void of sites that focus on the answering of questions about gaming, closing everything that doesn't fit in that description, and then some more.
That's fine. And I'm just saying that denying those sites even exist is not the statement that you should be making because all it has the potential to do is piss people off.
Nov 16, 2010 16:48
I see you're the first person I pissed off enough to warrant a reply. Congratulations!
My opinions are just that, opinions. If anybody would agree on an opinion, it wouldn't be an opinion, it would be an axiom.
Is @Ivo here?
@tzenes I haven't seen him.
You still haven't explained one thing to me - what was your point of bringing up the licensing of the content on "other sites" (I'm assuming GameFAQs)?
@CharlesBoyung I don't like it. I don't know if it's enforced, but it's unnecessarily restrictive.
@CharlesBoyung Because there's inherent value in work being open to be shared/in the 'public domain' to some extent or another.
Nov 16, 2010 16:52
All content here is CC licensed
If it was followed to the letter, not even Google would be allowed to show snippets of those pages.
If you don't happen to agree with that particular position - well, that's your politics, but that doesn't render the position invalid.
 
Conversation ended Nov 16, 2010 at 16:52.